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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 (362) 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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Property of Nightterror™
posted May 17, 2011 11:48 AM

The "Laser" beam is fine, I mean what did you want instead? that she shoots a ball of web from her behind?

And like Elvin says, she has two forms. So my bet is that she will have a melee attack in her "human form".
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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
and Light
posted May 17, 2011 12:13 PM

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The "Laser" beam is fine, I mean what did you want instead? that she shoots a ball of web from her behind?

Actually, yes, I think that would have been both much more sensible and aestethic.
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Nocturnal
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Supreme Hero
posted May 17, 2011 12:22 PM

I think the in-game models of creatures are even better than their artworks, except for Glories, whose hair seem really bad in-game. In this Necro video again I'm surprised to see all the creatures look better than their artworks.

And I loved both the transformation and the green laser of the Weaver. Skeleton's death is perfect. I can only complain about Lamasu's attack, which is very simple. Like, if you put an actual lion there, it would also attack in the same way. The animation lacks the charisma of the unit itself. So with Succubus, I only have 2 dislikes for animations. All the others are great.
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Azagal
Azagal


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
posted May 17, 2011 12:22 PM

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Oh joy, that's Nature's Luck just for Demons.

Yeah about that the Mark targets 1 creature, Natures Luck was effective on all Sylvan units against any target. Big difference. Hell no my Demons are not going to be OP... not that that's going to prevent them from overruning the other pathetic races of Ashan.

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


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Look into my eyes...
posted May 17, 2011 12:24 PM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 12:24, 17 May 2011.

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I think it's intended to basically be a Inferno version of necromancy.
Say your 100 Cerberi gate 40 Cerberi and neither suffers any losses, and say you keep... 20% of the gated units.
Then after the battle you'll have 108 Cerberi.

It only mentions "up to the original size of stack" so you would only have a max of 100 Cerberi after combat, not 108.


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The "Laser" beam is fine, I mean what did you want instead? that she shoots a ball of web from her behind?
And like Elvin says, she has two forms. So my bet is that she will have a melee attack in her "human form".

I think I would much prefer the spider to melee with it's 8 huge legs walking along looking scary, and the human form to be the laser beam shooter.....

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Nocturnal
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posted May 17, 2011 12:52 PM

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I think I would much prefer the spider to melee with it's 8 huge legs walking along looking scary, and the human form to be the laser beam shooter.....



Well, think about Titans in H5. With that huge body you would first thing they are melee and gonna tremple other units but they are shooters. But like every shooter they also have their melee attack. And that melee attack is the first predicted tremple thing So maybe Weaver's melee is also something like you imagine?
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Davy
Davy


Known Hero
posted May 17, 2011 03:09 PM

I also think,that the fate weaver is a shooter and that she has a unique melee animation,including her spider limbs(after all,all shooter units had this in H5).
I like especially the animation of the skeleton and I think,the transformation of the weaver looks ok,since it should be fast.

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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted May 17, 2011 03:29 PM

I wonder if the fate weaver's transformation takes a full turn......

Still think the "human form" should be the shooter and the "spider form" to be an all-out-attacking-all-nearby-enemy-stacks kind of vibe.....cos it has 8 legs....and spiders are freaky! A shooting titan is one thing, but a shooting spider is like a melee master hunter! Still it does look cool....

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admira
admira


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Famous Hero
posted May 18, 2011 10:07 AM

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I wonder if the fate weaver's transformation takes a full turn......

Still think the "human form" should be the shooter and the "spider form" to be an all-out-attacking-all-nearby-enemy-stacks kind of vibe.....cos it has 8 legs....and spiders are freaky! A shooting titan is one thing, but a shooting spider is like a melee master hunter! Still it does look cool....


I don't know, maybe it is a "conditional" range attack, not a pure one. I used a lot in my fan-faction entry: Here

Sorry for the bad Adv. but Yeah, I hope it is just another conditional range attack or some spell.

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Brukernavn
Brukernavn


Famous Hero
posted May 18, 2011 11:11 AM

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the transformation of the weaver looks ok,since it should be fast.

It being fast is the most important thing for me. I hated in H5 when you had full speed on creature movement, yet the spell-casting-animation for the wizards took as long as three other creatures to act. I hope we won't have that kind of thing in H6.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted May 18, 2011 02:30 PM

So the Fate Weaver has nipple lasers, eh?
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MrDragon
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Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted May 18, 2011 02:50 PM

Why do people say it comes from the chest?
I can clearly see the beam erupting from her hands.

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admira
admira


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posted May 18, 2011 03:57 PM

this just come to my mind for a while. The all corny cheesy "Asha uses all" and "Griffin eternal!" are actually remind me of something. It maybe either Nival or Ubi effort to create memorable quote like the ones in Blizzard "En taro Adun!" by Protoss (which means "In honor of Adun!" CMIIW). But well the effort is failed miserably because either the bad voice act or it is simply corny.

PS: I have a lot in mind lately so please excuse my weird comments.

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Avirosb
Avirosb


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No longer on vacation
posted May 18, 2011 04:16 PM

I wouldn't go to Blizzard for originality.
Besides, it seems way hammier than that.
I think GRIFFIN ETERNAL is their version of FOR THE EMPEROR / BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, or it may very well just be their take on war cries in general.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 18, 2011 04:39 PM

I Actually think that
"Asha uses all" and "For father Sky" are praticulary good "war cryes"

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admira
admira


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posted May 18, 2011 05:27 PM

@Avirosb: I am not talking about originality, I am talking about how Blizzard successfully "popularize" their in-game quote and make them memorable to their fans. Something like "En taro Adun!" that feels epic and not cheesy or even the simple "ZUG ZUG!" (I remembered how those Blizzard Fanboy yelling "En Taro Blizzard!" at the announcement of SC2). What I am trying to say, the previous Heroes V team might have the similar idea, to create a memorable quotes out of their game with "GRIFFIN ETERNAL!" or "Asha uses all!" but well it didn't turn out well, I presume.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted May 18, 2011 05:41 PM

I don't think I've ever heard those Blizzard phrases before nor do I think they are popular outside of Blizzard games.
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 18, 2011 05:44 PM

"Heroes eternal!" could be a good wasy to welcome every new MaM game :-)

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Tsar-Ivor Online
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posted May 18, 2011 09:22 PM
Edited by tsar-ivor at 21:23, 18 May 2011.

I myself preferred Griffin Undying.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
posted May 18, 2011 10:27 PM

I prefer Garfield.

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