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Hungarest
Hungarest


Known Hero
What? Why? I'm undefeatable
posted May 19, 2011 05:00 PM

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Looks like I'll have to buy the soundtrack at the very least.
Or rather, search for it on YouTube when that time comes.

Also, it's official: Goblins are the comic relief and I'm still confused about the name of Svetlana/Sveltana
     

Sveltana

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted May 19, 2011 05:16 PM

Anton's voice
Sveltana's voice

And good to know that Anton's won't be someone that everyone in the kingdom likes.
Well, at least this week the quantity of news has been decent.
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Xerox
Xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted May 19, 2011 05:18 PM

So what is their reasoning for not having the awesome new Siren replace the Spring Maiden as a Sanctuary elite? Then a lot of people would be a bit more happy.

I guess they will not do that so we will have to replace the Siren with the Spring Miden with mods.
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Davy
Davy


Known Hero
posted May 19, 2011 05:19 PM
Edited by Davy at 17:20, 19 May 2011.

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Haha pathetic, i'm losing fate in the team day by day now, but isn't a suprise to me they go for such a simple and boring name, they should get inspired by something different than 8 year old girls playing with Arial and barbies with glowing glory hairs.


what is your problem?They don't look like pretty princesses at all,they are more like older depictions of the mermaid who was more fish,than woman.

And the mermaid is a classical fantasy creature,why is it bad if they use them?Should they stop using classical creatures or what?If thats the case,they can nearly throw out all creatures from the whole Heroes-series...


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Nagas and the other Sanctuary creatures are a faction based on their relation to various eastern/asian cultures, not just water. Nagas originate from Hindu/Buddhist mythology, Kappa are from Japanese mythology, Kirin is from Japan/China. It's all very tied together from those cultures wheras Mermaids are more of a Greek thing.

And whats with the coral priestress who is obliviously based on the medusa/the gorgons,from greek mythology?
And there are also tales of mermaids in eastern myths,so she would have fit into the sanctuary

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Astromidas
Astromidas


Hired Hero
posted May 19, 2011 05:21 PM
Edited by Astromidas at 17:24, 19 May 2011.

After watching that video I'm looking forward to play the game even more, also looking forward to the story. The music is magnificent!

By reading alot that have been said on this forum I not really sure what of the things that many are complaing about. (Of course, I have not seen any complains about the music - but that's no shocker to anyone).

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted May 19, 2011 05:28 PM

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So what is their reasoning for not having the awesome new Siren replace the Spring Maiden as a Sanctuary elite? Then a lot of people would be a bit more happy.

I guess they have incorporated the creatures into the storyline, so a change might prove difficult without changing the whole plot.

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted May 19, 2011 05:31 PM

Mermaids....
*sigh*
Well I guess I better arm my orc warriors with fishing rods now...

@Avirosb
I don't think that ghost comparison is particularly good since the in-game model of the ghosts are so fugly.


Anyways but yes the mermaids are really hot.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


Known Hero
passed out drunk in Tavern's
HC SUPPORTER
posted May 19, 2011 05:35 PM
Edited by Kenishi at 17:38, 19 May 2011.

 If not mistaken MrDragon already pointed out about the myth of Ningyo so i don't think it would have been any problem of using her instead of the Spring Spirit I guess it was a unanimous decision from the Ubihole team  ...

EDIT

Oh and almost forgot about some other similar mythical creatures like mermaids in Asian countries

http://www.mythencyclopedia.com/Le-Me/Mermaids.html
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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted May 19, 2011 05:46 PM
Edited by Wckey at 18:02, 19 May 2011.

Or they could put a mermaid with indian clothes. Afterall, that's what they did with the medusa.


Comparing the goblin and the supposed mermaid with the resources, the mermaid isn't much bigger than the goblin, but the mermaid we saw today had the double of the size...
If they had time to change this creature (although I hope she is the Spiderwoman 2.0), why didn't they changed the Spring Spirit?
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn


Famous Hero
posted May 19, 2011 06:00 PM

YAY, we're getting some news again!
The music seems to be amazing, as expected.

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By reading alot that have been said on this forum I not really sure what of the things that many are complaining about. (Of course, I have not seen any complains about the music - but that's no shocker to anyone).

The complaining is a direct result of the lack of news and matters to discuss. As a result people take their frustration out on elements of the game (and creatures what we know most about), or use their spare time to do something creative (like creating new factions, which is good).

The biggest complaint for me is the town window. If they fixed it I would pre-order today. But for now I'll wait and see. There are many aspect that could turn out either really good or terribly bad. We'll have to wait and see...

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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds
posted May 19, 2011 06:15 PM

Yeah,yeah, Might, Magic, Music... UbiHole got that part, and nailed it once again BUT! Which iconic, epic, unforgettable hallmark was left out?(Read: horribly, unnecessarily, and mercilessly disfigured beyond recognition?)


(Hint: begins with "Town", ends with "Screens, full-screen Screens for crying out loud!!!!"

BTW, strangely, the first name I thought of at the beginning was Paul's, immediately followed by Steven's, concluding with Rob's, a few nanoseconds later, even though I'm still not sure what role Baca plays(He was credited, alongside the other two OFC for H2's and H4's soundtrack IIRC, but not for H3 and H5 - Is he therefore like Ben Burtt on steroids? Or did he just refuse to come back for 3 and 5?) I dunno, after 5 games, I can no longer separate the two(/three?) from each other. As in the case of "Might and Magic", it just doesn't feel right not to think "PaulRomero,StevenBacaandRobertKing", just like that, without pauses
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torin856
torin856


Hired Hero
posted May 19, 2011 06:20 PM

The picture in the video at ~5:25 with the children (Anton in the middle).
Is that picture available somewhere?

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted May 19, 2011 06:28 PM

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Looks like I'll have to buy the soundtrack at the very least.
Or rather, search for it on YouTube when that time comes.

Also, it's official: Goblins are the comic relief and I'm still confused about the name of Svetlana/Sveltana


I think there is not much confusion to make. Yes the subtitles have Svetlana in them, But the Actress her self and the description under her name clearly say/read Sveltana

But I must say, the sound is very promising

and Btw.. there was someone after TOE and DM who had doubt about Goblins being the humor aspect

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Tsar-Ivor
Tsar-Ivor


Legendary Hero
Ω Sunt lacrimae rerum Ω
posted May 19, 2011 06:43 PM
Edited by tsar-ivor at 19:56, 19 May 2011.



Ermmm, so you think they are pathetic because they are named as what they are and not as something else. Because sirens are bird women, not fish women. I understand another creature like the Coral Priestess not named Medusa as the other creatures because a)she is not evil b) medusa  in myth is not a race, is an individual, the (3 persons) race is called gorgons c) the gorgons dont even look like that, they look like HoMM4 one with bronze wings (Damn you Clash of Titans). The Cerberus one is super dumb though


It's obvious their designs and abilities were inspired by mythological creatures, but its as obvious as the fact that they're not identical in every way (no need for examples since i dare-say almost all are), because then all you'd have is just a copy of our world. Ubi is 'insipred' by myth.

In response to our dearest Nightterror.
'The word is a compound of mere, the Old English word for "sea", and maid, a woman. The male equivalent is a merman.'
Both sirens and mermaids are renowned for their voices (singing) but it appears that mermaids are benevolent where-as sirens are less so, but i agree they should be called sirens, last thing i want to do is massacre some mermaids on a sea voyage...come to think of it sounds like fun.

To All:
'I don't like simple thoughts, names, souls and people.' thats lovely and good to know, the world is neck deep in simpletons i admire your perception to notice such a person via the net, but your conduct to such a person is hardly creditable. I'm happy to recieve your opinions on the game but you must realise that there's always going to be someone who doesn't agree with you.

Pointing out people who are too foolish to understand is in-itself foolish, because there can be no victory, try to understand that everyone is gifted with their own perspective of themselves and the world every-one unique, please don't get upset at people who don't realise this, they simply don't know any better. You wish to enlighten people in anyway you must learn the method not point out their faults and leave them to wallow.


The World and everything within it is-as-it-is because we accept it so.

Spent 2 hours writting this to try and make it sound the way i want it to and get the message across, hope it helps.

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted May 19, 2011 07:18 PM

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The picture in the video at ~5:25 with the children (Anton in the middle).
Is that picture available somewhere?

http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/media/goodies/index.aspx
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn


Famous Hero
posted May 19, 2011 07:34 PM

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Yeah,yeah, Might, Magic, Music... UbiHole got that part, and nailed it once again BUT! Which iconic, epic, unforgettable hallmark was left out?(Read: horribly, unnecessarily, and mercilessly disfigured beyond recognition?)

(Hint: begins with "Town", ends with "Screens, full-screen Screens for crying out loud!!!!"

Ironic that it was the town screen they showed when talking about H1

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SoilBurn
SoilBurn


Adventuring Hero
BurnsSoil
posted May 19, 2011 08:51 PM

On the whole beauty contest discussion:

I beg to differ. I personally enjoy the unusually large amount of slender female models they have used this time around, I always felt HOMM was too macho in its character designs.

I am also glad they gave the female models a distinct fantasy feel,  while avoiding to make them look too obscene or cheesy - see for example the so-called 'female troops' of King's Bounty (Dryad, Fairy, Demonness) - an orgasm of hyper-macho-ness that manifests by commanding an army of oversexualized lolitas who - god forbid - become stronger if the hero wears the kinky 'Princess item set'... including bunny headset. Spare me.

Oh, and I actually like both the Spring Spirit and the Yuki Onna (*puts helmet on and prepares for barrage*)

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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted May 19, 2011 08:59 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 21:16, 19 May 2011.

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On the whole beauty contest discussion:

I beg to differ. I personally enjoy the unusually large amount of slender female models they have used this time around, I always felt HOMM was too macho in its character designs.

I am also glad they gave the female models a distinct fantasy feel,  while avoiding to make them look too obscene or cheesy - see for example the so-called 'female troops' of King's Bounty (Dryad, Fairy, Demonness) - an orgasm of hyper-macho-ness that manifests by commanding an army of oversexualized lolitas who - god forbid - become stronger if the hero wears the kinky 'Princess item set'... including bunny headset. Spare me.

Oh, and I actually like both the Spring Spirit and the Yuki Onna (*puts helmet on and prepares for barrage*)


Whilst I mostly agree I feel that some of the creatures are merely female for the sake of being female.
To me the two creatures that do this are the Glory and the Spring Spirit, neither of which needs to be female at all, in fact, they could have been far more creative with these two creatures then just making them naked women composed of magical light or water.
All other females I don't have a problem with. (well not with them being female anyway)

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TwinMatrix
TwinMatrix


Hired Hero
posted May 19, 2011 09:20 PM

MERMAIDS! I'm happy.
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted May 19, 2011 10:11 PM

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Anyway Siren sounds much better than Mermaid, I always had problems with that childish stupid name, the person who made up this name so long ago should be drowned by them, especially the MAID part irritates the hell out of me.


That's the first time I agree on something with Nightterror. "Mermaid" is such a childish name. It calls to my mind 6 year old girl's dolls. She combs their hair with golden combs and stuff.
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