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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted July 21, 2011 06:37 PM |
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i find it quite funny how some people
PRAISE decisions of Heroes6
and in the same time HATE Heroes4
from where btw a lot of "new features" are pretty much stolen..
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 21, 2011 07:06 PM |
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Quote: i find it quite funny how some people
PRAISE decisions of Heroes6
and in the same time HATE Heroes4
from where btw a lot of "new features" are pretty much stolen..
Except for the armyless heroes, I don't see anything stolen from H4 ... oh wait ... yeah ... the snowty townscreens !
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted July 21, 2011 07:16 PM |
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And maybe H4's great storyline
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted July 21, 2011 11:06 PM |
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Please don't be dissing an amazing game like H4 like that
From what I've heard about H6, H4 >>>>>>> H6 in nearly every departement (save artwork and graphics)
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 21, 2011 11:17 PM |
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Funny, I get the opposite
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TwinMatrix
Hired Hero
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posted July 22, 2011 02:23 AM |
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I looooved H4. Never got the hate for it. H4 >>>> H5/H6.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted July 22, 2011 02:48 AM |
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i do insist that some significant things are just taken from Heroes4
and i do not understand why people say that i Hate this in H4, but i love pretty same thing in Heroes6...
i mean you can say that some of them were not implimented perfectly in H4, but the ideas are the same
and how do you know that they will work perfectly in Heroes6 before the game release???
it just seems that hate towards Heroes4 is just in sake of Hating it.. that's it.. without even bothering to analyze first,
and the other way around in Heroes6, just Praise every single decision about H6, just to shout that its Great!!!
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted July 22, 2011 08:33 AM |
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But WHICH features is it that you find similar? Because for all my lack of love for H6, I don't see that much similarity to Heroes 4 apart from the 'heroes-without-creatures' thing.
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What will happen now?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2011 08:39 AM |
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Like? I could see some things H5 borrowed from its predecessor(and subtly implemented) but I fail to see this in H6. Caravan? Nope. Flaggable windmills? Nope. Roaming units. Nope. Skill system? Nope. Heroes in combat? Naah. Less factions? We may be on to something here.. Advanced classes? Not quite, cannot compare the two. Crappy town screens? Aha!
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted July 22, 2011 09:04 AM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 09:05, 22 Jul 2011.
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Heroes IV did have town screens and a complete town interface, ugly or not (actually the interface was quite neat). If I'm to evaluate all town screens throughout the series where Heroes III gets 10/10 and Heroes VI -1/10, Heroes IV will get about 5.5/10. I mean - how can one even compare this:
... to this:
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cdiMaster
Hired Hero
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posted July 22, 2011 09:48 AM |
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Meundmein
Adventuring Hero
Tricky, tricky Death...
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posted July 22, 2011 10:26 AM |
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I actually (don't hit me) prefer H6 town screen to H4. I think it's so much more artistic, H4 was just, well, cheap 3d.
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Casting Lives And Deaths
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2011 10:31 AM |
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As far as H4 was concerned the only town screens I liked were preserve and academy. The way the interior changed according to terrain was an interesting idea but many combinations looked just bad. Either way, we're hoping for a rework no?
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Smithey
Promising
Supreme Hero
Yes im red, choke on it !!!
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posted July 22, 2011 10:56 AM |
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Edited by Smithey at 10:57, 22 Jul 2011.
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Quote: I actually (don't hit me) prefer H6 town screen to H4. I think it's so much more artistic, H4 was just, well, cheap 3d.
Oy Meundmein ! Whats that on your left ?
Boom, you have just been smacked feel free to pick up your mask from the floor.... Yeah, I know violence isn't the answer I just choose to be wrong on purpose
P.S. Still got a nasty left hook waiting to get into action in case you wish to share more of your opinions on town screens... just saying
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2011 11:07 AM |
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Not while I'm around. You may find your hand flailing on the ground
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Oz
Adventuring Hero
Preparing
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posted July 22, 2011 12:42 PM |
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The only problems with H4 townscreens were a few ugly buildings, too much space between them, and the mismatching terrain. Other than that they were creative yet still organized and well matching with the music.
It's way superior compared to H6 where there are no details, separate buildings, and everythings just seems medicore.
H5 also did an amazing job with townscreens, grand sceneries, huge buildings. We finally actually saw a city which scaled to our army size.
I really don't get this excuse with the load times...
I can get used to windows, I already did, but it just takes away so much epicness and greatness from the game.
Also, 2.5D looks especially dumb in a window.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted July 22, 2011 01:06 PM |
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Quote: Other than that they were creative
Wow ... Creative ? Seriously ??? They were ALL copy-paste of each other with all the buildinds in the same place in every city and you call this creative ? If you want creativity I'd suggest you watch the H3 town screens or even the H5 ones, but saying that the H4 screens were creative sounds like ... blasphemy
EDIT :
This is the setup of EVERY H4 city :
---Grail ----- City Hall --------------------------------------------- Fort ----------
----Dwelling 2 ---- Dwelling 3 -------- Dwelling 4 ------------ Caravan - Prison
Dwelling 1 - Special building 1 - Mage Guild - Special Building 2 - Armory
Dwelling 1 ----------------------------Tavern --------------------------- Shipyard
So please, don't tell me this was creative
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted July 22, 2011 01:44 PM |
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The Heroes IV town screens looked unfinished but redeemable while the Heroes VI town windows are totally beyond redemption in their current form. The first indicates lack of time, the latter - lack of interrest (not even lack of skill because we already have better pictures for the town windows made in a day by fans who don't get a single penny for their work). I think it's obvious which is condemnable.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 22, 2011 02:35 PM |
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This isn't a suck contest you know.. Let's not beat that undead horse further.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted July 22, 2011 04:55 PM |
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Quote: This isn't a suck contest you know.. Let's not beat that undead horse further.
Sorry Elvin but yes we should beat him, and not stop until he is dead and we can get a new better looking one.
The problem is that in H1,2,3 and 5 you got a beutifel stalion, or at least a pony. In H4 you got a donkey. But and undead horse? No, not going to happen, or at least not whitout a fight.
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I'm just a Mirror of your self.
We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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