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Avirosb
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posted August 05, 2011 01:31 AM

What are angels then? Not spirits?

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Dave_Jame
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posted August 05, 2011 07:41 AM

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What are angels then? Not spirits?

Oh man
Angels, Elves, Dwarves, Naga, Faceless and Humans are races,

Exept for human there areall edldar races (Look up Elreth description to see what I mean) They all have been chosen by a good as his servents warshipers...

As Other races one can see the Demons, Orcs and Beastman. You may not include the beastman or you can count orcs and Beastman as one.
Demons are children of Urgash, Orcs are hybride mutatnt of human and demons. The beastman are mutants similar to orcs made on the same bases but insted of demons, animals are used.

These all are material creaturesthat are native to the world of Ashan.

But there are other creatures, non native to Ahsan but to  certain spirit relem.
Such cretures are:
Spirits, Djinies, Rakshas, Mizu-kami, Yuki-ona, Kappa..
Many of such spirites are based on Elementals, but not all.

Some undead like Ghosts and Ghoul are created from those spirits that did not manage, or wanted to make the step from the mortal to a spirit relem.

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Avirosb
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posted August 05, 2011 09:29 AM

Why aren't humans part of the elder "races"?
Weren't they picked by Ylath?
Never got into the lore, just curious.

Another curious thing: In H5 "An angel cannot be killed, if its body is endangered it will return to its spirit form and rejoin its master",
yet in H6 their numbers seems to be dwindling.
Are their departure a one-way ticket?
Or did Elrath say "Crud, I'm losing worshippers, better make the few I have left immortal, ASAP"

If someone from one of the other elder "races" die, won't they "return to their spirit form" and rejoin their respective dragon gods as well?

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Nelgirith
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posted August 05, 2011 10:21 AM

H6 postponed to October, 13th. I'm surprised they did it, but it's, IMO, a great news !

The 2nd phase of beta is postponed to August, 16th. That's a bad news though

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alcibiades
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posted August 05, 2011 10:25 AM

Surprising indeed! But good at least that they're taking the beta feedback seriously.
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Dave_Jame
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posted August 05, 2011 10:30 AM

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Why aren't humans part of the elder "races"?
Weren't they picked by Ylath?
Never got into the lore, just curious.

Another curious thing: In H5 "An angel cannot be killed, if its body is endangered it will return to its spirit form and rejoin its master",
yet in H6 their numbers seems to be dwindling.
Are their departure a one-way ticket?
Or did Elrath say "Crud, I'm losing worshippers, better make the few I have left immortal, ASAP"

If someone from one of the other elder "races" die, won't they "return to their spirit form" and rejoin their respective dragon gods as well?


Ylath is refferd as the youngest Dragon and also Humans are caled the youngest race. In the description of Elreth they are described as "newly born"

The Angel thing is a bit more complicated. It seems to me that Elreth has chosed a different way to preserve his fallowors. As they cannot breed as fast as other races he chosed to gather the souls of killed angels in his relem and in limited way enabled them to returne to the Mortal relem. But not shure about this part.
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deadace
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posted August 05, 2011 10:50 AM

I'm all for the delay! It's really nice to see, that they're taking their sweet time to get it just right!
Also, I saw the intro before it was removed, and it kicked ass! Gorgous cinematic!

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Nelgirith
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posted August 05, 2011 10:58 AM

We don't know much about the Mythic and the Ancient Ages, but I would say that only Angels and Faceless are Elder races. They remind me a lot of the Valar and the Maiar from "The Silmarillion" (Tolkien).

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alcibiades
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posted August 05, 2011 11:26 AM

Weren't there 6 elder races: Angels, Faceless, Elves, Dwarves, Naga and Humans? The Demons obviously are a separate entity, whereas I don't think Undead should be counted as a race in itself ('Undead' seems to be opposed to 'Living'). As for the Dark Elves, there is actually not any strict indication that they are a race for themselves, is there? I mean, they're not even dark-skinned like the Drow.

But on top of all those, there would also be the beastmen, each of which would be their own race, i.e. Gremlins, Harpies, Minotaurs, Sharkmen, Orcs, Centaurs, Cyclops, Goblins ... any forgotten? So the total race count on Ashan would still surpass 10.
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Dexter
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posted August 05, 2011 11:30 AM

Six Elemental Dragons - six Elder Races. It's not really complicated. Undead are not a race, since a dead human is still "human", just dead. Demons are a race, but they're not among the Elder Races.

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Nelgirith
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posted August 05, 2011 11:38 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 11:40, 05 Aug 2011.

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Six Elemental Dragons - six Elder Races. It's not really complicated. Undead are not a race, since a dead human is still "human", just dead. Demons are a race, but they're not among the Elder Races.

It's not written anywhere. Everyone keeps saying that each Elemental Dragon created one race, but it's wrong ... or let's say that it's not confirmed anywhere Also, none of the Dragons bios shows that they created any race, they "picked" or they were chosen by those races as gods.

The only races that are mentionned in the Elder Wars are Angels, Faceless and the Elven Kingdoms. Also, there might have been those "Shanti'ri", but we don't know who/what they are.

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Avirosb
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posted August 05, 2011 11:40 AM

Probably nagae.
Probably.

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Kitten
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posted August 05, 2011 11:40 AM

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H6 postponed to October, 13th. I'm surprised they did it, but it's, IMO, a great news !

The 2nd phase of beta is postponed to August, 16th. That's a bad news though

I agree. Aww and I was so looking forward to play the beta on Tuesday

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Smithey
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posted August 05, 2011 11:57 AM

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H6 postponed to October, 13th. I'm surprised they did it, but it's, IMO, a great news !

The 2nd phase of beta is postponed to August, 16th. That's a bad news though


October .... That's with diablo 3.... I have to fake an injury to get time off work....

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Dexter
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posted August 05, 2011 11:58 AM

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Six Elemental Dragons - six Elder Races. It's not really complicated. Undead are not a race, since a dead human is still "human", just dead. Demons are a race, but they're not among the Elder Races.

It's not written anywhere. Everyone keeps saying that each Elemental Dragon created one race, but it's wrong ... or let's say that it's not confirmed anywhere Also, none of the Dragons bios shows that they created any race, they "picked" or they were chosen by those races as gods.

The only races that are mentionned in the Elder Wars are Angels, Faceless and the Elven Kingdoms. Also, there might have been those "Shanti'ri", but we don't know who/what they are.


Actually none of them created any race at all. Asha is the only creator in this world. Of course I was never a reliable source, but I will repeat it once more: the Elder Races are those who were created as servants to the Dragon Gods: Angels, Faceless, Dwarves, Naga, Elves and Humans.

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foxxxer
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posted August 05, 2011 12:40 PM

Honestly, Iím not surprise about the new delay. There isnít enough time to September, 8th and they are still on the beta bug fixing and balancing. However, it has to have some time for making of physical copies and supplying the stores. So itís not so surprising. Letís hope that theyíll do the things properly till October

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Brukernavn
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posted August 05, 2011 12:48 PM

The delay is really good news! I'm not sure if it means improved UI and town screens, but at least it shows they don't want to release an unfinished game.

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posted August 05, 2011 12:49 PM

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October .... That's with diablo 3.... I have to fake an injury to get time off work....

LIES! Diablo 3 will never be released!
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Karanshade
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posted August 05, 2011 01:00 PM
Edited by Karanshade at 13:02, 05 Aug 2011.

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The delay is really good news! I'm not sure if it means improved UI and town screens, but at least it shows they don't want to release an unfinished game.


Sure thing. I know I 'm gonna sound like a troll , but I really hope the delay is not about bringing back full screen towns . As much as I was sceptical and as much as the design of town windows had a reallypoor ergonomy , I really prefered no to have this 1 second splash animation between map/town and also I really enjoyed the fact that I was keeping track of my environnement while managing the town  buying creatures and making plans in general, not having to go back and forth between town and map was an improvement and I m really looking forward a well designed and practical town window.

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Nelgirith
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posted August 05, 2011 01:05 PM

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H6 postponed to October, 13th. I'm surprised they did it, but it's, IMO, a great news !

The 2nd phase of beta is postponed to August, 16th. That's a bad news though


October .... That's with diablo 3.... I have to fake an injury to get time off work....

Blizzard hasn't made any official announcement yet and the beta will only begin in a few days/weeks.

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