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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted September 22, 2011 10:11 AM

I can make you a special mod with one-liners for all biographies if you feel this strongly about them...
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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted September 22, 2011 10:26 AM

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I can make you a special mod with one-liners for all biographies if you feel this strongly about them...

That'd be swell. I don't want pure one-liners either, tho.
Just severely condensed versions of all biographies.

Could you also change the line "creatures killed" to "battlefield casualties"?

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Aosaw
Aosaw


Promising
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Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted September 22, 2011 11:28 AM
Edited by Aosaw at 11:31, 22 Sep 2011.

Could you also change the description of the Light and Water elementals to read,

"Jane Glory/Spirit was on the waiting list for Haven/Sanctuary, but when it became clear that her sisters, Blazing/River and Radiant/Spring, were going to get the jobs because they used to date the quartermaster, she decided to strike out on her own.  She met a group called the Elementals, changed her name, and set about kicking all kinds of ass in the name of not being affiliated with anyone in particular."

I think that would be appropriate.

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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
Really, Ubisoft?
posted September 22, 2011 01:27 PM

Hmmm ... Thunderbirds making a return?
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kodial79
kodial79


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Supreme Hero
How'd Phi's Lov't
posted September 22, 2011 01:30 PM

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Hmmm ... Thunderbirds making a return?


Probably they were mentioned in her biography because Shiva's speciliazation in H3, was boosting the Thunderbirds.


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alcibiades
alcibiades

Hero of Order
Really, Ubisoft?
posted September 22, 2011 02:34 PM

Possibly true.
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DoubleDeck
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Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted September 23, 2011 01:48 AM

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Hmmm ... Thunderbirds making a return?


As the faction line up is set for Stronghold, and we know there are no boss creatures for Stronghold, maybe it's hint that Thunderbirds could be a boss creature of a future expansion...

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted September 23, 2011 08:42 AM

Not necessarily I can think of a few possibilities.
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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 23, 2011 11:24 AM

Dynasty Creature?

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Aosaw
Aosaw


Promising
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Author of Nonreal Fiction
posted September 23, 2011 11:34 AM

DLC?

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Leonhart
Leonhart


Hired Hero
posted September 23, 2011 08:50 PM

Should be an alternate champion unit for Stronghold in expansion. : D
Anyway could someone explain me why all the neutral stacks are consisted of only same creatures.? (Except for the elementals.)
All I see is like... [Vestal]x n. Why can't there be more variety like:
A) Praetorian-Marksman-Vestal (different units)
B) Praetorian-Demented-Crusher (different factions)
C) Praetorian-Kensei-Enraged Cyclops (different blabla~)

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DoubleDeck
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Look into my eyes...
posted September 25, 2011 11:31 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 11:32, 25 Sep 2011.

Quote:
Should be an alternate champion unit for Stronghold in expansion.

Not sure, the way there are copied creatures in the game, I doubt they would start making alternate creatures, let alone alternate upgrades for future...


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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted September 26, 2011 02:44 AM

It happens that my heroes game wouldnt work...the "service is unavailable"...think they are repatching it...
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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted September 26, 2011 03:37 AM

As I keep playing the demo, I have started noticing an extremely, emphasis on extremely, annoying thing that keeps happening.  

Whenever I catch up with an enemy and engage them in combat, they're just waiting for their turn to throw a spell at me and then flee. The very next turn, they're out and about again with probably all of their army intact, and I got nothing done.

This has to change. You flee? You lose your army! Wasn't it always like that? If I remember right, you had to surrender and pay me up if you wanted to keep your army, right? The more troops you had with you, the more gold required. That worked great, bring it back! (Yeah, like they're going to do that now because I said so...)

Also what's this snow about immediate recruitable heroes from the tavern with no gold... Now that they can run around without troops, makes them very annoying.


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Grishnak
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Hired Hero
posted September 26, 2011 04:11 AM

After they "flee" you can see on status window whether they lost their troops or not. If you see all their troops as "lost", than they lost it, but since it is AI, do not expect miracles It cheated before, cheats now and will be cheating in the future. Do not get upset over that too much
And for heroes recruiting, as it was mentioned before, it is plain stupid.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted September 26, 2011 04:32 AM

Wait, doesn't the AI lose 25% of its army when it flees? Secondaries certainly are a pain as they are. At least the AI will be improved in time for the release.
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Grishnak
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Hired Hero
posted September 26, 2011 05:14 AM

Not sure how much % they lose on flee. Not paying much attention to numbers, as I'm aware AI will be back with full force few turns later anyway.
I would love to see AI improved, I'm just afraid "improvement" will simply mean ever more cheats available for AI.

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forest001
forest001


Known Hero
posted September 26, 2011 05:20 AM
Edited by forest001 at 05:23, 26 Sep 2011.

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Should be an alternate champion unit for Stronghold in expansion.

Not sure, the way there are copied creatures in the game, I doubt they would start making alternate creatures, let alone alternate upgrades for future...




oh, come one...
you act like they copied half of the creatures, remind me please how many creatures with upgrades we have and how many of them share model?

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Not sure how much % they lose on flee. Not paying much attention to numbers, as I'm aware AI will be back with full force few turns later anyway.
I would love to see AI improved, I'm just afraid "improvement" will simply mean ever more cheats available for AI.



it's not that bad, it looses some creatures, but it will flee only if it does not have any fighting chance, if you see it as high or severe even then it will give you a fight, and will escape towards the end.
think it's fine, as not feeding you exp is important so are the arties.

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted September 26, 2011 05:29 AM

Don't worry, cheating will not be involved I hated H5 cheating, fighting an enemy hero felt like fighting a super-charged bot. It was frustrating to see it have so many advantages yet act so stupid at the same time. That ruined any semblance of single player immersion.
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kodial79
kodial79


Promising
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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted September 26, 2011 05:51 AM

Maybe it's a bug then? Because I noted that they weren't actually losing any troops. At least not a big percentage such as the 25%. If there were any casualties due to the retreat, they were unnoticeable.

I spent a long time to a stupid cat-and-mouse game. Chasing after the enemy all over the map, just to have them flee when I was eventually catching up.

Not one single battle! I won the game eventually with the only battle against a hero locked up in their last town. All the battles that were started in the map, ended in the enemy's first turn, where they would flee.

And to think I don't even use main heroes. I was splitting the army equally among my higher level heroes and I wasn't even converting the towns and forts, to have more variety under my command.

It was more exciting fighting against neutral monsters than enemy heroes!
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