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whiterider
Known Hero
death walks with me
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posted December 15, 2010 11:00 PM |
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Behemoths have too much fur in order to be created from demon blood There are no hairy demons in Heroes (maybe the cerberi are but they are evil dogs )
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Paiazza
Known Hero
لىخ ضل
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posted December 15, 2010 11:01 PM |
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Also for those who said aztec jungle-orcs is an original creation:
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Demonge
Known Hero
more than meets the eyes
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posted December 15, 2010 11:01 PM |
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Edited by Demonge at 23:02, 15 Dec 2010.
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Quote: Behemoths have too much fur in order to be created from demon blood There are no hairy demons in Heroes (maybe the cerberi are but they are evil dogs )
^No matter how much I appreciate Behemoths, you got a point.
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Wait a second! I'm not big-boned, I'm just fat!
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whiterider
Known Hero
death walks with me
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posted December 15, 2010 11:07 PM |
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Paizazza,
I think we all are sick of you people searching for some resemblances with other games/style/art or ideas.
If the devs are using existing style for something people go crazy and say they are un-original and are stealing art, copying etc
If the devs are inventing new creatures people go crazy and say they are going too far and that this or that creature doesnt exist in mithology his or her holy book...
If the orcs were in space crafts, with tentacles and in the style of Star Trek would you be satisfied?
Edit:
And what you have posted is a fan-made Blood Guard for Diablo 3, it is not an Orc, it is not a common picture from some other game. For sure you dont think that someone is browsing the thousands amateur pictures?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 15, 2010 11:12 PM |
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Sheesh they are not called fortress.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 15, 2010 11:13 PM |
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Rather disappointing, they chose the least interesting of all the possible "old" factions (not Stronghold in general, but the Orc Stronghold, which is WAY less intriguing than the previous versions of this faction). Still they finally introduced it, so it's one mystery less. Hope it's completely re-designed and the Blood Rage is out for good, because it was totally broken racial skill in Heroes V and made the game even more chaotic than before (not to mention that it made no sense why to Orcs have such ability and the Demons don't have it).
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Paiazza
Known Hero
لىخ ضل
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posted December 15, 2010 11:19 PM |
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WhiteRider I have nothing against all that things you said, all I say is why are people amazed of jungle-orcs / aztec-orcs, or jungle barbarians, it fits very well. And the orc faction is not even jungle based theme.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted December 15, 2010 11:21 PM |
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Quote: Black Hole stole my hand-with-symbol concept for the Coven.
Unacceptable. Omega, lawsuit attack.
*sniffs* Blood. Where?
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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VokialBG
Honorable
Legendary Hero
First in line
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posted December 15, 2010 11:26 PM |
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Just bring Behemoths, and just don't make the chieftains female are we are ok with you, Ubi.
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Lokheit
Known Hero
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posted December 15, 2010 11:28 PM |
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Edited by Lokheit at 23:29, 15 Dec 2010.
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I was tricked LOL!
I was just making my cabals for what the Academy and Naga factions will contain (I supposed that we won't see any elf in this game till an expansion with the civil war), and now I am owned.
Well, if Stronghold is returning for good, they better have the Behemoth with them
I think that the 5th faction will be academy as they appear in the necropolis description, but I could be owned again...
And for the child belonging to the orcs... did the father just have a crazy orkgy or something like that? (I had to make the joke )
Also I'm wondering if now they are going to have magic since there will be 2 types of heros and 5 factions aren't enough to make one of them without 2 hero types.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 15, 2010 11:31 PM |
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Perhaps the child realy is an orc. You know how Orcs are humans that are injected with demon-blood. Who knows what clandestine wizzards will do if you offer them a sack of gold coins.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 15, 2010 11:33 PM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 23:35, 15 Dec 2010.
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Quote: Also I'm wondering if now they are going to have magic since there will be 2 types of heros and 5 factions aren't enough to make one of them without 2 hero types.
I'm also curious about this, in HoMM V the Orcs frown upon magic. So now they'll have Might battle-cries and Magic battle-cries?
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted December 15, 2010 11:39 PM |
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I am interested what role will Orcs have in H6 because the Orc Crusades were 50 years before 2nd eclipse where H6 story is settled.
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Ramses
Hired Hero
The Art of Ninja
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posted December 15, 2010 11:42 PM |
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hmmm..what about Voodoo!? ^^
Since i can't see Dungeon anywhere near (sadly), they could always cast dark magic of some sort..
Curses, magic blocking spells etc..
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Omnipotence
Hired Hero
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posted December 15, 2010 11:45 PM |
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Depending on how they twist it, orcs could possibly use primitive/primordial (forget what they called it)? I'm not sure what that form of magic is anyways, assuming it has been in previous games. I do know that I am incredibly excited, glad to not have to deal with those pansy elves... Wizards would have been fine though, they had some pretty awesome directions (rakshasha) that you could go with.
Lokheit: Academy can't be fifth faction if it is supposed to be a new and original one.
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Orfinn
Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
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posted December 16, 2010 12:06 AM |
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Edited by Orfinn at 00:08, 16 Dec 2010.
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Stronghold are back! Yes! Well I didnt see that coming, hoped for Sylvan/nature/Rampart etc.
Glad to see the Harpies are back
The Reaver looks great, but the Destroyer, something aint right about him. I hate to say it but he reminds me of tauren from wow with those big horns at his back
The goblins look better, boomerang?
Thats the keyword, boomerang. Who the heck uses boomerangs in the jungle?? Look at Australia, keyword PLAINS, open space to throw a boomerang with ease. Not in a tight jungle I bet these will be autumn plains or island orcs, not steppe orcs as in H5. Because I hope the swamp therrain remains a hope for Naga faction with Lizardmen, Gnolls, Gorgons, Wyverns and Wisps (swamp gas you know, but here they are spirits) maybe.
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Goblins
Orcs
Harpies
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Centaurs
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Behemoth/Cyclops
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Onryo
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 16, 2010 01:21 AM |
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They don't need to be indian-influenced. Once I saw the boomerang, Australia and aborgin was the first things to hit my mind. Goblins are more like a somehow "funny" unit, and seeing them throwing boomerangs will be great!
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted December 16, 2010 01:29 AM |
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does anyone see them Diablo-2 like or it is only me????
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blighboy
Hired Hero
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posted December 16, 2010 01:49 AM |
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Edited by blighboy at 01:49, 16 Dec 2010.
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Quote:
I fear we will see at least 3 orcish units...
They probably have a goblin/orc cat or wolf rider and a shaman priest, voodoo priestess female orc (that is why the priestess was changed in name) and maybe even a thunderbird orc rider.
I really hope i'm wrong... but i'm sure they will use more orc units, because those orcs are called destroyer? Not orc... too bad.
I don't really think an orc riding on a beast should be considered an orc unit. The beast is doing all the fighting, the orc is just there to attempt to steer it. It just makes the whole unit make more sense, while not detracting from its uniqueness.
I don't think them trying to come up with a creative name for an orc unit is an indication of more orc units. They changed the name of the Angel. It could just be to distinguish it from heroes, who will likely be orcs, or goblins, who are considered an orc subspecies in most fantasy universes.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 16, 2010 04:13 AM |
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Quote: Barbarians with jungle fits perfectly right, just not in Heroes of Might and Magic you wanted to say.
That is what I said; note I said Barbarian, not Barbarians, meaning the Barbarian town in HoMM.
I do hope the Behemoth comes back; it wasn't dropped in HV because of a lack of fan support, which seems to be quite the opposite, but rather a dev decision.
Wait, what, Stronghold theme? Where? Gimmie gimmie gimmie!
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