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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 (56) 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
WhiteRider
WhiteRider


Known Hero
death walks with me
posted December 15, 2010 10:00 PM

Behemoths have too much fur in order to be created from demon blood There are no hairy demons in Heroes (maybe the cerberi are but they are evil dogs )

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Paiazza
Paiazza


Known Hero
لىخ ضل
posted December 15, 2010 10:01 PM

Also for those who said aztec jungle-orcs is an original creation:


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Demonge
Demonge


Known Hero
more than meets the eyes
posted December 15, 2010 10:01 PM
Edited by Demonge at 22:02, 15 Dec 2010.

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Behemoths have too much fur in order to be created from demon blood There are no hairy demons in Heroes (maybe the cerberi are but they are evil dogs )


^No matter how much I appreciate Behemoths, you got a point.
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WhiteRider
WhiteRider


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death walks with me
posted December 15, 2010 10:07 PM
Edited by whiterider at 22:13, 15 Dec 2010.

Paizazza,
I think we all are sick of you people searching for some resemblances with other games/style/art or ideas.

If the devs are using existing style for something people go crazy and say they are un-original and are stealing art, copying etc

If the devs are inventing new creatures people go crazy and say they are going too far and that this or that creature doesnt exist in mithology his or her holy book...

If the orcs were in space crafts, with tentacles and in the style of Star Trek would you be satisfied?

Edit:
And what you have posted is a fan-made Blood Guard for Diablo 3, it is not an Orc, it is not a common picture from some other game. For sure you dont think that someone is browsing the thousands amateur pictures?

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Elvin
Elvin

Hero of Order
Stillness within Movement
posted December 15, 2010 10:12 PM

Sheesh they are not called fortress.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted December 15, 2010 10:13 PM

Rather disappointing, they chose the least interesting of all the possible "old" factions (not Stronghold in general, but the Orc Stronghold, which is WAY less intriguing than the previous versions of this faction). Still they finally introduced it, so it's one mystery less. Hope it's completely re-designed and the Blood Rage is out for good, because it was totally broken racial skill in Heroes V and made the game even more chaotic than before (not to mention that it made no sense why to Orcs have such ability and the Demons don't have it).

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Paiazza
Paiazza


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لىخ ضل
posted December 15, 2010 10:19 PM

WhiteRider I have nothing against all that things you said, all I say is why are people amazed of jungle-orcs / aztec-orcs, or jungle barbarians, it fits very well. And the orc faction is not even jungle based theme.

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OmegaDestroyer
OmegaDestroyer

Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
posted December 15, 2010 10:21 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 22:23, 15 Dec 2010.

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Black Hole stole my hand-with-symbol concept for the Coven.

Unacceptable. Omega, lawsuit attack.



*sniffs*  Blood.  Where?
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VokialBG
VokialBG

Hero of Order
First in line
posted December 15, 2010 10:26 PM

Just bring Behemoths, and just don't make the chieftains female are we are ok with you, Ubi.
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Lokheit
Lokheit


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posted December 15, 2010 10:28 PM
Edited by Lokheit at 22:29, 15 Dec 2010.

I was tricked LOL!

I was just making my cabals for what the Academy and Naga factions will contain (I supposed that we won't see any elf in this game till an expansion with the civil war), and now I am owned.

Well, if Stronghold is returning for good, they better have the Behemoth with them

I think that the 5th faction will be academy as they appear in the necropolis description, but I could be owned again...

And for the child belonging to the orcs... did the father just have a crazy orkgy or something like that? (I had to make the joke )

Also I'm wondering if now they are going to have magic since there will be 2 types of heros and 5 factions aren't enough to make one of them without 2 hero types.

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted December 15, 2010 10:31 PM

Perhaps the child realy is an orc. You know how Orcs are humans that are injected with demon-blood. Who knows what clandestine wizzards will do if you offer them a sack of gold coins.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted December 15, 2010 10:33 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 22:35, 15 Dec 2010.

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Also I'm wondering if now they are going to have magic since there will be 2 types of heros and 5 factions aren't enough to make one of them without 2 hero types.
I'm also curious about this, in HoMM V the Orcs frown upon magic. So now they'll have Might battle-cries and Magic battle-cries?

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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


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Author
posted December 15, 2010 10:39 PM

I am interested what role will Orcs have in H6 because the Orc Crusades were 50 years before 2nd eclipse where H6 story is settled.
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Ramses
Ramses


Hired Hero
The Art of Ninja
posted December 15, 2010 10:42 PM

hmmm..what about Voodoo!? ^^
Since i can't see Dungeon anywhere near (sadly), they could always cast dark magic of some sort..
Curses, magic blocking spells etc..

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Omnipotence
Omnipotence


Hired Hero
posted December 15, 2010 10:45 PM
Edited by Omnipotence at 22:48, 15 Dec 2010.

Depending on how they twist it, orcs could possibly use primitive/primordial (forget what they called it)? I'm not sure what that form of magic is anyways, assuming it has been in previous games. I do know that I am incredibly excited, glad to not have to deal with those pansy elves... Wizards would have been fine though, they had some pretty awesome directions (rakshasha) that you could go with.

Lokheit: Academy can't be fifth faction if it is supposed to be a new and original one.
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Orfinn
Orfinn


Supreme Hero
Werewolf Duke
posted December 15, 2010 11:06 PM
Edited by Orfinn at 23:08, 15 Dec 2010.

Stronghold are back! Yes! Well I didnt see that coming, hoped for Sylvan/nature/Rampart etc.

Glad to see the Harpies are back
The Reaver looks great, but the Destroyer, something aint right about him. I hate to say it but he reminds me of tauren from wow with those big horns at his back

The goblins look better, boomerang?

Thats the keyword, boomerang. Who the heck uses boomerangs in the jungle?? Look at Australia, keyword PLAINS, open space to throw a boomerang with ease. Not in a tight jungle I bet these will be autumn plains or island orcs, not steppe orcs as in H5. Because I hope the swamp therrain remains a hope for Naga faction with Lizardmen, Gnolls, Gorgons, Wyverns and Wisps (swamp gas you know, but here they are spirits) maybe.


So.

Goblins
Orcs
Harpies
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Centaurs
Shamans
Cyclops/Thunderbird
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Behemoth/Cyclops
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Onryo
Onryo

Tavern Dweller
posted December 16, 2010 12:21 AM

They don't need to be indian-influenced. Once I saw the boomerang, Australia and aborgin was the first things to hit my mind. Goblins are more like a somehow "funny" unit, and seeing them throwing boomerangs will be great!

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DarkLord
DarkLord


Supreme Hero
Fear me..
posted December 16, 2010 12:29 AM

does anyone see them Diablo-2 like or it is only me????

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blighboy
blighboy


Hired Hero
posted December 16, 2010 12:49 AM
Edited by blighboy at 00:49, 16 Dec 2010.

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I fear we will see at least 3 orcish units...


They probably have a goblin/orc cat or wolf rider and a shaman priest, voodoo priestess female orc (that is why the priestess was changed in name) and maybe even a thunderbird orc rider.

I really hope i'm wrong... but i'm sure they will use more orc units, because those orcs are called destroyer? Not orc... too bad.


I don't really think an orc riding on a beast should be considered an orc unit. The beast is doing all the fighting, the orc is just there to attempt to steer it. It just makes the whole unit make more sense, while not detracting from its uniqueness.

I don't think them trying to come up with a creative name for an orc unit is an indication of more orc units. They changed the name of the Angel. It could just be to distinguish it from heroes, who will likely be orcs, or goblins, who are considered an orc subspecies in most fantasy universes.
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SwampLord
SwampLord


Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
posted December 16, 2010 03:13 AM
Edited by SwampLord at 03:14, 16 Dec 2010.

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Barbarians with jungle fits perfectly right, just not in Heroes of Might and Magic you wanted to say.


That is what I said; note I said Barbarian, not Barbarians, meaning the Barbarian town in HoMM.


I do hope the Behemoth comes back; it wasn't dropped in HV because of a lack of fan support, which seems to be quite the opposite, but rather a dev decision.

Wait, what, Stronghold theme? Where? Gimmie gimmie gimmie!
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