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Avirosb
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posted January 27, 2011 02:31 PM |
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The Fate Weaver/Spinner/Whatever is aesthetically appaling.
I guess it just goes to show that Ashan Necromancers have no style.
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LizardWarrior
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the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 27, 2011 03:18 PM |
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I don't mind if they never bring back Skeleton Dragon. They're just another amount of bones put together by magic.
Imagine if they decided to create a faction that is 7 creatures all made of bones. Pretty boring, no? (Well, actually H5 and H3 had 4 of them and wasn't that bad, but still, I'm glad they decided to make a more interesting Necropolis).
what?I want a faction made only with bones,from buildings to creatures!Also a new resource:bones !If we have crystallized dragon blood why not bones?
I made a faction with almost all troops skeletons(last post on page)
And skeletons have an important role in a medieval fantasty game.In middle ages,zombies/ghouls were't symbols of death,skeletons were.
Look at this death tarrot card from the middle ages.Am I blind and there is a spider or a ghoul?I don't think so.
(I want very much a death knight like this,vampiric knights aren't good)
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Fauch
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 27, 2011 04:00 PM |
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I have nothing against the necro dragons as well, I would rather cut the sylvan dragon which are too similar to dungeon dragon, unless they bring back the faerie dragons.
but it would be cool if for once, you could choose to upgrade the bone dragon to zombi dragon instead of ghost dragon
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted January 27, 2011 04:49 PM |
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I would like to see dragons different in shape, abilities... like kirin (wingless), black dragon (flyer) and fairy dragon (caster).
In H5 they were all the same but if they were different form each other they would be more interesting.
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xerox
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 27, 2011 06:41 PM |
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Dragons are boring aslong as you make too many of them and they all look the same. There are over a 100 ways of doing dragons, so they should not all be the old boring european version.
The Black dragon is a classical creature for Dungeon, but I would prefer to have it as something way more powerful - a boss!
The H3 Faerie dragon was excellent and if there is one dragon I want as a Champion creature, than its definetly the Faerie dragon for Sylvan!
The Green dragon is just boring and can be forgotten.
The Fire dragons in H5 were actually unique and cool, but they should have named them Fire wyrms imo. They would probably be better off as bosses aswell and then Giants would be the fortress champion.
The neutral dragons in H3 were al really cool looking and something I missed in H5 was the lack of neutral creatures and neutral dwellings. Something I think H6 should do is to add super-powerful neutral creatures and dwellings on the maps. It would be strategical to buy the neutrals. I also hope there will be some way to get your hands on Boss creatures, especially the Dragon-Eel!
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Over himself, over his own
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted January 27, 2011 07:28 PM |
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Dragons are boring aslong as you make too many of them and they all look the same. There are over a 100 ways of doing dragons, so they should not all be the old boring european version.
The Black dragon is a classical creature for Dungeon, but I would prefer to have it as something way more powerful - a boss!
The H3 Faerie dragon was excellent and if there is one dragon I want as a Champion creature, than its definetly the Faerie dragon for Sylvan!
The Green dragon is just boring and can be forgotten.
The Fire dragons in H5 were actually unique and cool, but they should have named them Fire wyrms imo. They would probably be better off as bosses aswell and then Giants would be the fortress champion.
The neutral dragons in H3 were al really cool looking and something I missed in H5 was the lack of neutral creatures and neutral dwellings. Something I think H6 should do is to add super-powerful neutral creatures and dwellings on the maps. It would be strategical to buy the neutrals. I also hope there will be some way to get your hands on Boss creatures, especially the Dragon-Eel!
Why do you even talk about it, since it's been confirmed that Dragons will be bosses and not champions?
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted January 27, 2011 07:39 PM |
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Hey, if you gotta have dragons in your game, you'd better include the green ones
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted January 27, 2011 08:19 PM |
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HoMM without Black Dragons are not HoMM!!! no question about it!!!
Green Dragons can be cut away, can be left as well.. But i think Nature faction can have a better Champion unit, as there's lots of room for imagination..
Fire dragons.. i didn't like them extremely.. it looks like fried dinosaur for me..
Bone Dragon.. never liked them (exept HoMM4 maybe).. But i think it's logical that Necromancers will try to raise the most powerful creature in game to fight in undead army.. I prefer Fate Spinnner over Bony Dragon
Kirin.. well Dragon-Unicorn.. but it's new, so i am gonna like it, i am sure 
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted January 27, 2011 08:20 PM |
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HoMM without Black Dragons are not HoMM!!! no question about it!!!
Green Dragons can be cut away, can be left as well.. But i think Nature faction can have a better Champion unit, as there's lots of room for imagination..
Fire dragons.. i didn't like them extremely.. it looks like fried dinosaur for me..
Bone Dragon.. never liked them (exept HoMM4 maybe).. But i think it's logical that Necromancers will try to raise the most powerful creature in game to fight in undead army.. I prefer Fate Spinnner over Bony Dragon
Kirin.. well Dragon-Unicorn.. but it's new, so i am gonna like it, i am sure
Why HoMM without Black Dragons is not HoMM but Green Dragons can be cut away?
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e-lysander
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Lysander
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posted January 27, 2011 08:25 PM |
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Cry me a river and go back into the kitchen where you belong and make a me a damn sandwich.
LOL!
Inequality and sexism bother me as much as the next person, but you gotta know when to play your cards. Meh, she was asking for it.
*Returns to subject at hand*
I dunno, the absence of sixteen dragons is definitely a breath of fresh air. One issue in Heroes V with the dragons I had is that... I didn't really like using them... they were powerful and everything, but they made me feel... claustrophobic. They were way too big, they were too loud with their growling and groaning--not unlike Nightterror--and they were so slow to react. Reminded me of Warcraft II's dragons, actually. You select a command and they take ages to react. The thing about 2D was that creatures were smaller, sprites are easier to move around in quicker and no one cared that dragons weren't that huge.
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DarkLord
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Fear me..
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posted January 27, 2011 08:29 PM |
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Why HoMM without Black Dragons is not HoMM but Green Dragons can be cut away?
Because Black Dragon is fundamental for HoMM series. It has been there since HoMM1 (even though it was purple, doesn't matter, it's still the same creature), and what is important has been amongst the most powerful creatures, if not the strongest. Every time i hear Black Dragon the first thing that comes to my mind is HoMM..
while Green Dragons have been only in HoMM5. I do not mind them, to be honest, but i am sure that there are way too many alternatives that should not be overlooked. Nature alligned faction can have incredible creatures, and i personally would not like to limit it to another dragon, with pretty average abilities.
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e-lysander
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Lysander
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posted January 27, 2011 08:36 PM |
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Because Black Dragon is fundamental for HoMM series. It has been there since HoMM1 (even though it was purple, doesn't matter, it's still the same creature)
Actually, uhhh... the Purple Dragon shares stats with the Green Dragon in Heroes II, so, technically it's the Green Dragon. Oops?
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Green Dragons have been only in HoMM5.
Yeah, if you leave out Heroes II & Heroes III, you're right.
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted January 27, 2011 08:36 PM |
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Why HoMM without Black Dragons is not HoMM but Green Dragons can be cut away?
Because Black Dragon is fundamental for HoMM series. It has been there since HoMM1 (even though it was purple, doesn't matter, it's still the same creature), and what is important has been amongst the most powerful creatures, if not the strongest. Every time i hear Black Dragon the first thing that comes to my mind is HoMM..
while Green Dragons have been only in HoMM5. I do not mind them, to be honest, but i am sure that there are way too many alternatives that should not be overlooked. Nature alligned faction can have incredible creatures, and i personally would not like to limit it to another dragon, with pretty average abilities.
Are you sure you have played the HoMM2 and HoMM3 games?
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MattII
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posted January 29, 2011 08:42 PM |
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The Green was dragged over to Rampart to replace the Phoenix, but IMO doesn't have the same iconic status, because it wasn't interesting, I mean we already had two dragons, so we could have upped the Dendroid to tier 7, because it was as tough as wood and the size of a tree, what more could you want from a top-level unit?
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted January 29, 2011 11:17 PM |
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ooops) messed up!!! of course Green dragon was there in HoMM3..
but honestly... i don't see anything significant about that creature... maybe that's why i even forgot it was in HoMM3
p/s/ @ Kodai
actually yes i did play HoMM3.. all the campaigns and all the expansions, and i played it with my friends a lot!
i would say i am pretty not bad in HoMM3.
while with HoMM2 i am not really familiar (played it just "couple of times")
p/s/ @ Lysander
i guess you are more familiar with HoMM1-and HoMM2 then me.. but i think you should agree with me that Green dragon stands no chance in comparsion to Black Drake!
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted January 29, 2011 11:28 PM |
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In fantasy and mythology, western dragons are usually green.
Therefore it stands to reason that if dragons of certain colors were to appear in a game, those dragons would likely first and foremost be of the green kind.
Unless they aren't color coded, like in H1 where the only (purple) dragons are called 'dragons'.
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kodial79
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How'd Phi's Lov't
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posted January 30, 2011 10:21 AM |
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ooops) messed up!!! of course Green dragon was there in HoMM3..
but honestly... i don't see anything significant about that creature... maybe that's why i even forgot it was in HoMM3
p/s/ @ Kodai
actually yes i did play HoMM3.. all the campaigns and all the expansions, and i played it with my friends a lot!
i would say i am pretty not bad in HoMM3.
while with HoMM2 i am not really familiar (played it just "couple of times")
p/s/ @ Lysander
i guess you are more familiar with HoMM1-and HoMM2 then me.. but i think you should agree with me that Green dragon stands no chance in comparsion to Black Drake!
Then don't fault H5 for a trend started in H3. And it's only your opinion that black dragon is more likeable, nothing more than that. I would not wanna have to choose between black or green dragon, I would wanna see them both returning. If I had to choose, it would be none instead of just one.
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DarkLord
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posted January 30, 2011 10:42 PM |
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Then don't fault H5 for a trend started in H3. And it's only your opinion that black dragon is more likeable, nothing more than that. I would not wanna have to choose between black or green dragon, I would wanna see them both returning. If I had to choose, it would be none instead of just one.
Well i think you are wrong in this one! If i will express only my opinion, i would easily replace both dragons with Archangels from HoMM4 for example, which were one of my favourites! and that will be my likes or dislikes!!!
Regarding Black and Green dragon i am judging according to creatures abilities and design .. As none of them is my favourite or hated creature. it is easy for me to conclude that Black Dragon is more essential to Heroes series.
I would rather say that you are the one who is expressing your personal likes or dislikes.. just an observation.. please don't get me wrong.. let's be friends 
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MattII
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posted January 31, 2011 02:53 AM |
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If we're going to get a dragon to balance the Black then give us something different, like a Fairy, or a Chinese, not just a Black with a dye-job.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted January 31, 2011 03:35 AM |
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What I want to know is, why is it the Black dragons that are evil? When are we going to see an evil White dragon?
Seems like a fair bit of racial inequality to me!
What saddens me is that now no one can control the dragons. I would have liked to be able to recruit a single dragon (or similar unit) that grows more powerful as the hero gains levels - so that your "champion" unit is actually your army's champion, instead of a group of what are essentially Super-Elites.
That would allow us to play with dragons, without begging any questions of overpopulation and ecosystem control.
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