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Thread: First Expansion-Post your Wishes and Ideas
Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted October 17, 2010 08:40 PM
Edited by Lord_Immortal at 12:29, 18 Oct 2010.

First Expansion-Post your Wishes and Ideas

So,now that we are 5 months before the first game release post your ideas and wishes for the first expansion.You may post original game ideas to to clear up the expansion ones.
Here's an example of mine:

Original Game Factions
1)Haven
Core:
Archer-Marksman
Pikeman-Royal Guard
Squire-Knight
Elite:
Griffin-Imperial Griffin
Priest-Zealot
Cavalier-Paladin
Champion:
Angel-Archangel

2)Inferno
Core:
Imp-Familiar
Demon-Horned Demon
Hellhound-Cerberi
Elite:
Succubus-Succubus Mistress
Pit Lord-Pitmaster
Efreet-Efreet Sultan
Champion:
Destroyer-Juggernaunt

3)Necropolis
Core:
Skeleton-Skeleton Archer
Zombie-Ghoul
Shade-Ghost
Elite:
Vampire-Vampire Lord
Lich-Lich Lord
Undead Sphinx-Mummy Sphinx
Champion
Bone Dragon-Death Wyrm

4)Academy
Core:
Gremiln-Master Gremlin
Stone Golem-Granite Golem
Stone Gargoyle-Obsidian Gargoyle
Elite:
Mage-Archmage
Genie-Master Genie
Rakshasa Rani-Rakshasa Raji
Champion:
Giant-Titan

5)Dungeon(Faceless)
Core:
Troglodyte-Infernal Troglodyte
Harpy-Harpy Hag
Beholder-Overseer
Elite:
Medusa-Medusa Queen
Warlock-Spellsword
Manticore-Scorpiore
Champion:
Faceless-Faceless Shadowlord

Neutral:
Core:
Fire/Earth/Water/Air Elementals
Wolf
Elite:
Hydra
Champion:
Phoenix


Might and Magic:Heroes 6-Rise of the Dark Elves
Factions
Sylvan:
Core:
Wolf-Direwolf(No more neutral)
Bladedancer-War Dancer
Hunter-Deadeye
Elite:
Druid-Archdruid
Unicorn-Holy Unicorn
Dendroid-Dendroid Treeherder
Champion:
Green Dragon-Emerald Dragon

Shadowkeep:
Core:
Assasin-Stalker
Blood Maiden-Blood Sister
Elite:
Minotaur-Minotaur Berserker
Shadow Mistress-Shadow Wich
Champion:
Deep Dragon-Black Dragon

Fortress:
Core:
Axeman-Huskarl
Skirmisher-Javelinman
Axethrower-Axemaster
Elite:
Bear Rider-Jarl
Rune Priest-Rune Patriarch
Thane-Fire Thane
Champion:
Fire Dragon-Magma Wyrm

Coral:
Core:
Nymph-Naiad
Sea Elf Hunter-Sea Elf Stalker
Mermaid-Siren
Elite:
Triton-Triton Crusader
Tidecalller-Deepmaster
Kraken-Trench Kraken
Champion:
Leviathan-Jormungrandr

Story:
Defeated at the first attemp,the Faceless Lord visits the woods of Irollan.With his shadowy skills,he persuades the Elven Mistress Tuidhana.With her generals Agbeth and Ranleth(brother and sister),she flees to the underground realm of Ygg-Chal,the ruined domains of the Faceless.The Griffin Emperor and the High King wage war on this betrayal.On their way,the dark elves are given hunt by the druid Tieru,wich is blocked by the Sea Elves(Playable).
As soon as the dark elves establish their cities underground,they are fought by the Deepflame Clan of Dwarves and their leader,High Priest Hangvul.Fighting both Hangvul and Tieru, the Dark Elves and Faceless would succesfully stand victorious and the sides decide to make The Peace of the New Spring.Tieru is one of the Dragon Knights and he finds that the Great Flame wo burned Brythigga is demon's hand to.Raelag sells his clan,the Soulscar to the Demon Sovereign of that time,Kha-Beleth.The third front agains demons ensured that the Dark Elves were defeated,and Faceless exterminated.Tuidhana gets killed and revenge is at the hands of her daughter,Eruina,wich defeats the elven officer Talanar and her "ally" who betrayed her,Rutger.
References from this site,bringing more detais about the events:
Dungeon: A Chronological History (From the Official Site)

The Origins

528 YSD: Tuidhana’s Secession
Tuidhana, legendary founder of the Dark Elves, declares independence from the Elven Kingdom.

540 YSD: War of the Bitter Ashes – Birth of the Dark Elves
The Elves of Irollan and the Human Knights of the Holy Falcon Empire are at war, with Tuidhana's kingdom as the main battlefield. Her territory under attack from both sides, Tuidhana makes a pact with the Faceless for the power to protect her people. Those who follow her are changed by the blessing of Malassa, Dragon of Darkness. From this day on, they will be known as the Dark Elves. With the support of their new allies, they will expel both the Elves and the Humans from their land.

548 YSD: The Peace of New Spring
The Holy Falcon Empire forfeits any claim to elven lands and makes extensive reparations. The Dark Elf kingdom's independence is recognized – at sword point – by Elves and Humans, but intermittent hostilities persist across the borders.

566 YSD: Day of the Tears of Fire – Death of Tuidhana
A massive fire burns down the Elven capital. The High King dies in the flames with most of his court. Brythigga, the Mother of Trees, sacred to the Elves, is also consumed by the fire. The loss is devastating.

The Dark Elves are blamed and offered exile or death. Most choose exile; the rest are hunted down and destroyed without mercy. Tuidhana remains with her lands and is killed.

585 YSD: Discovery of Demon Implication in the Day of the Tears of Fire
The Dragon Knights bring evidence to the Elves that Brythigga’s criminal fire was set by a Demon spy.

Emissaries are sent from the forest to the wandering Dark Elves, offering amnesty and inviting them to return home. The offer is refused.

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bludgeon
bludgeon


Known Hero
posted October 17, 2010 10:21 PM

Why all your factions have only 2 core and elite units?

On topic, it's hard to say for me what I want in the expansion if I have little idea what will be in the core game
I think we can safely assume we will get one bonus faction per expansion.

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted October 18, 2010 12:16 PM
Edited by Lord_Immortal at 12:18, 18 Oct 2010.

Quote:
Why all your factions have only 2 core and elite units?

On topic, it's hard to say for me what I want in the expansion if I have little idea what will be in the core game
I think we can safely assume we will get one bonus faction per expansion.

Aren't there 2 core,2 elite and 1 champion units? if not tell me and I will fix that.
EDIT:Sorry,Now I noticed there are 3 core,3 elite and 1 champion.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted October 18, 2010 12:19 PM
Edited by MattII at 12:24, 18 Oct 2010.

No, there are 3 each of core and elite. Also, isn't it a little early to be talking about the expansion since we don't know everything we're getting in vanilla?

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War-overlord
War-overlord


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted October 18, 2010 12:32 PM

I find it amazing how people are already considering expansions when the vanilla is not even released yet.

The idea that Dark Elves and Dwarves will be added in an expansion is one I had considered breifly, I must admit. But I, myself, am going to wait for vanilla, to be released and to have played at least half of it, before I am going to seriously think about such things.
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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted October 18, 2010 02:18 PM

Quote:
I find it amazing how people are already considering expansions when the vanilla is not even released yet.


That's beacause 5 factions are very few for a Heroes of Might and Magic game,thow we talk about that what will be the only game that competes against Heroes of Might and Magic III+Armageddon's Blade+The Shadow of Death.

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odium
odium


Known Hero
posted October 18, 2010 02:37 PM
Edited by odium at 14:50, 18 Oct 2010.

The problem is related to the fact that you cannot possibly discuss what will happen with the expansion considering that you don't know what will happen in the vanilla. For example, you might say that you want to see Dungeon in one of the expansions. However at this instance you don't know whether it will be included in the vanilla (and there are some good chances for it IMHO). So, I guess that you were a bit overzealous in starting this topic. Let's make a break from it and start again in about 8-12 months and we would be able to make a nice and constructive discussion thread.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted October 18, 2010 03:26 PM

Quote:
That's beacause 5 factions are very few for a Heroes of Might and Magic game,thow we talk about that what will be the only game that competes against Heroes of Might and Magic III+Armageddon's Blade+The Shadow of Death.
Except that we don't know what the 4th and 5th factions are, so we can't yet say what we think should be in the expansion.

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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted October 18, 2010 03:39 PM

If Sylvan is one of the unknown factions I would make the first expansion...

Might and Magic: Heroes VI - Awakening of the Shadows
The people of Ashan have suffered greatly from the sudden invasion of Demons. For the Wood elves, it ended with the incineration of their Mother Tree Brythigga and the independant elven queen Tuidhana and her Dark elves were blamed. Banished and hunted from the forests of Irollan, the Dark elves are forced to flee to their new masters underground who recently awakened due to the bold acts of an Archangel General who seeked to revive an ancient war. The Dark elves embraced the power of the malefic Faceless.
Now the forces of the Light and the Dark collide but is Ashan ready for the renewal of this war when she is already being ravaged by Demons?

New Town: Dungeon. Recently awakened by the vengeance of an Archangel General, the Faceless have risen. But they are not alone. The elven queen Tuidhana and her Dark elves were banished from Irollan and have now allied with the Faceless. Being faithful to Malassa, the Dragon of Shadow, they and the Faceless are ready to the face the light of Elrath and his vengeful Angels aswell as their pawns. Dungeons Might hero is the Overlord and the Magic hero is the Warlock.

Dungeon Creature Line-Up
Dungeon creatures are few, expensive but very powerful. Unlike many other factions, it is a much greater loss to lose a single powerful creature but in return, Dungeon creatures can easily form the greatest devastations possible in the game.

Core Creatures
Dungeons core creatures are composed of Dark elven servants.
Witch -> Shadow Witch. Witches are the religious leaders of the Dark elves. They are adept at casting dark magic.

Raider -> Grim Raider. Raiders are Dark elves mounted on the native lizardlike Raptyx. They are fast but durable.

Harpy -> Blood Harpy. Harpies are Dark elven warriors that have accepted the blessing of Malassa, the Elemental Dragon of Shadow. They appear as a bizarre hybrid between elven women and dragons.

Elite Creatures
Dungeon's elite creatures are composed of various beasts found in the deepths of Ygg-Chall.
Hydra -> Elder Hydra. Hydras are enormous beasts native to Ygg-Chall. They have multiple heads and are capable of regenrating lost limbs... and heads.

Facehugger -> Facehugger Argus. Facehuggers are twisted monsters created by the Faceless themselves. Through their horrifying eyes, they channel corruption and infestation.

Worm -> Abyssal Worm. The giant Worms of Ygg-Chall dwell beneath the darkest caverns. Favored by the Faceless themselves, they can disappear beneath the earth and appear right behind enemy lines.

Champion Creature
The Champion creature is no one else than the Faceless itself.

Faceless -> Faceless Seraph. The right opposites of the Angels, these are harbingers of darkness and shadow. The Faceless were awakened by the Archangel General who wanted to finish the ancient war that once were between the Angels and the Faceless and the Faceless will not hesitate to answer their call. Faceless are incredible powerful spellcasters.

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Lord_Immortal
Lord_Immortal


Famous Hero
DoR Dev Team
posted October 19, 2010 07:05 PM

Quote:
If Sylvan is one of the unknown factions I would make the first expansion...

Might and Magic: Heroes VI - Awakening of the Shadows
The people of Ashan have suffered greatly from the sudden invasion of Demons. For the Wood elves, it ended with the incineration of their Mother Tree Brythigga and the independant elven queen Tuidhana and her Dark elves were blamed. Banished and hunted from the forests of Irollan, the Dark elves are forced to flee to their new masters underground who recently awakened due to the bold acts of an Archangel General who seeked to revive an ancient war. The Dark elves embraced the power of the malefic Faceless.
Now the forces of the Light and the Dark collide but is Ashan ready for the renewal of this war when she is already being ravaged by Demons?

New Town: Dungeon. Recently awakened by the vengeance of an Archangel General, the Faceless have risen. But they are not alone. The elven queen Tuidhana and her Dark elves were banished from Irollan and have now allied with the Faceless. Being faithful to Malassa, the Dragon of Shadow, they and the Faceless are ready to the face the light of Elrath and his vengeful Angels aswell as their pawns. Dungeons Might hero is the Overlord and the Magic hero is the Warlock.

Dungeon Creature Line-Up
Dungeon creatures are few, expensive but very powerful. Unlike many other factions, it is a much greater loss to lose a single powerful creature but in return, Dungeon creatures can easily form the greatest devastations possible in the game.

Core Creatures
Dungeons core creatures are composed of Dark elven servants.
Witch -> Shadow Witch. Witches are the religious leaders of the Dark elves. They are adept at casting dark magic.

Raider -> Grim Raider. Raiders are Dark elves mounted on the native lizardlike Raptyx. They are fast but durable.

Harpy -> Blood Harpy. Harpies are Dark elven warriors that have accepted the blessing of Malassa, the Elemental Dragon of Shadow. They appear as a bizarre hybrid between elven women and dragons.

Elite Creatures
Dungeon's elite creatures are composed of various beasts found in the deepths of Ygg-Chall.
Hydra -> Elder Hydra. Hydras are enormous beasts native to Ygg-Chall. They have multiple heads and are capable of regenrating lost limbs... and heads.

Facehugger -> Facehugger Argus. Facehuggers are twisted monsters created by the Faceless themselves. Through their horrifying eyes, they channel corruption and infestation.

Worm -> Abyssal Worm. The giant Worms of Ygg-Chall dwell beneath the darkest caverns. Favored by the Faceless themselves, they can disappear beneath the earth and appear right behind enemy lines.

Champion Creature
The Champion creature is no one else than the Faceless itself.

Faceless -> Faceless Seraph. The right opposites of the Angels, these are harbingers of darkness and shadow. The Faceless were awakened by the Archangel General who wanted to finish the ancient war that once were between the Angels and the Faceless and the Faceless will not hesitate to answer their call. Faceless are incredible powerful spellcasters.

Nice,same story as mine.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted October 21, 2010 12:07 PM

I wish there are no expansions, and that Vanilla is as good as Gold. Once can dream i guess.
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