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Thread: I'm a cluts [ This thread is 7 pages long: 1 2 (3) 4 5 6 7 ]
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posted February 03, 2002 02:46 PM

The only reason that you are so upset is that maybe what I said hits a little too close to home.  You claim that you want to go out with good guys but as you stated that good guy didn't even have the testicular fortitude to ask you out even after two hours of your dropping hints.  If you want to go out I guess you're gonna have to find that bad boy and forget about the wimp.

The question should be what is attractive or sexy to women?

Is it a James Bond type?

Is it a gangsta rapper?

Is it a black leather jacket?

Is it a rebel?

Is it the guy you know your parents are going to hate?

You know whats hot and whom you secretly desire and it is not that doormat nice guy that you claim that you want.

Why?

Could it be that don't want some guy who you can easily have, but would rather have a guy who is more of a challange?

Could it be that nice guys are just to damn boring and are just not fun.

Could it be that you don't feel secure in the arms of some wimp, but the tough guy jerk makes you feel something?

Why don't you tell us why nice guys can't ever seem to get girls and when they do the girl is just there until the next jerk comes by.

Until girls figure it out, and come to terms the fact that jerks will treat them badly, guys are just gonna have to be jerks if they want to date and be successful at it.

(By the way, I do not understand why you got so upset with me that you need to try personal insults.  You don't know me or anything about me, if you knew me in real life, I would probably be the one you call, crying in the middle of the night, asking why guys can be such jerks.)


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posted February 03, 2002 03:01 PM

I really don't know how to start you, OT

Let me ask you one question... is Lith a jerk... if he's not why am I falling for him... amybe because he's a jerk? Maybe because I am a jerk?

I think you don't know the right women, that's sad for you.
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posted February 03, 2002 03:03 PM

Wow.

How did you 2 get so mad on eachother? I thought you were both close... I could be wrong...
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posted February 03, 2002 03:14 PM

Let me add one thing

It depends on how you define a jerk and when.

That guy who didn' ask me out... I would call him a jerk now
At first they all seem nice... we all see their good sites. It's like the drugs. At first they are so exciting and then you can't get rid of that rubbish.

Every girl has liked a jerk. I'm an exception, BTW. I have liked only 3 guys at all in my life and they treat me like a goddess. This is what I deserve, not wreched b@stards with no wits and respect. To get back to the point. Decent girls date jerks. But only cows marry them.
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posted February 03, 2002 03:14 PM

I don't know if Lith is a jerk or not.  He seems fine to me but alot of guys who seem okay still treat girls badly.

A couple of things;
1. I am a very happily married family man and have been for a long time.
2. I am talking about generalities not specific cases(if Lith turns out to be your life mate all the good for you)
3. We are talking about dating, and how will you ever find that person who is right for you if you can never leave the starting gates.
4. I have been working with and helping out young people ages 14-19 for over ten years and alot of the girls I do talk to have this problem with only dating these jerky guys.
The solution is to get nicer guys to become jerk enough that the girls will be attracted to them and date them and possibly not be burned so bad.

You might not like the fact that girls only seem to like the A-hole but until they act differently the advice that anyone should give a nice guy is.

Stop being such a nice guy!
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posted February 03, 2002 03:20 PM

Define happy

This is what I told Lith and you are making me suffer:
maybe I should stop talking to him and get out with the guy who last made a dirty pass at me. This is how I will fir the picture of a girl.

*looks between her legs* You make me doubt my sex.
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posted February 03, 2002 07:51 PM

Come on everyone, lets see being happy in relationships hmm.
Someone that loves & cares about the other person,that will do anything for that person.
You feel so comfortable around that person I could be wrong & I know there's a ton of other examples that can make you happy.
Maethor is a great person & I respect him.
No one is asking you to break up with him, you gotta do what you feel is right & if you have real feelings for him & he has real feelings for you & it's real well,not only is it rare in my shoes but I believe that both of you will be happy.
Remember patience is the key & if you dont have patience well it could hurt.
I am never boring in anything but I am a nice guy.
It seems the a woman always say what they want in a person but they always leave something out like.Money or a really good looking guy.
I will tell you an example which tore my confidence to shreds.
The reason why both my x's years ago broke up with me,because I am only half white,They wanted blue eyes & blond hair people.
I am the opposite of that so for yrs I felt that I would not find anything because of my person.
The last girl I went out with was also raped by her neighbor & molested by her step dad but it was weird.
She was dating numerous guys & had sex about 10 dif guys I am guessing but constantly, but I did not care I tried everything in my power to help.
One thing for mne that hurts the most is when you take time off try to help a person so much & they just turn around & do the opposite & now their life is changed forever.
For the worst.
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posted February 04, 2002 12:47 AM

I've had a lot of friends with problems like that, Aculias, and I find it sad that we live in this kind of world. Where I live I am very much in the minority where my beliefs about interracial relationships are concerned. I can't stand it when people say "I'm not racist, I just wouldn't (insert activity) with (insert ethnic group)" It makes me ill to know that people still think like that in this day and age. Everyone is a human being, as far as I'm concerned, and I have had relationships outside "my race" before and rnjoyed them- oh, and they weren't jerks either.
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posted February 04, 2002 01:06 AM

Lith and I can't be together for real

but I wish we could be. :-(

I'm sorry to hear that, Aculias. I mean that girls ignore you because of your blood. This is what I call prejudice... and let me tell you one thing. Such a girl will never make you happy. So, don't waste your tears. :-) Smile instead.

One day you will find the girl of yours dreams... and I wish Lith will find it too.

Just don't stop being nice.

Otherwise I will really stop respecting you for what you are.
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posted February 04, 2002 01:59 AM

Thanks but thats impossible & yrs ago & before I was the biggest*** **** that everyone ever met & when I was 18 I had to fend for my self without knowing any adult values at all.
I lived in the streets & in shelters for years, then I finally gotten a break about 3 yrs ago.
About yrs ago is when I finally changed & I really hated who I was & changed my whole life around.
I can still think of what I can still do & what it was like but it's not me anymore.
Thats what you call change.
Milena never give up hope, I believe one day Both of you will finally be together, as they say it's a small world.
Maybe it might be tomorrow or a month or even a year but remember patience is the key.
Without patience the world can only get harder.
I love talking because no one loves to hear me talk lol.
Love always finds a way & I believe that you two will find a way.
Never pass up a good thing because it could be the best thing.
So dont be depressed any more & I know good will happen, just got to believe in thet possibilities, I seen alot of love from diferent angles without a little luck because I dont believe in luck,it's how you deal with the situation that the impossible can be possible.
I hope this makes both you feel better & dont lose hope.
sincerally Manuel E. Reyes

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posted February 04, 2002 07:13 AM

Aculias

Now read what you wrote... you should remember yourself.

Lith and I can't be together. :-(( It makes me cry but this long-distance relationship is killing me. I can't take any more of it... I won't be able to stay like this for ages. Not for even one more month...

Oh, well.
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posted February 05, 2002 01:00 AM

Your right & thats one of the problems I have I always help others but dont know how to help myself.
Miracles can happen but sorry things could not work out.
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posted February 05, 2002 04:39 AM

Hello, Acuilas.

You call for advice and I will give you mine.
(this advice is from my own experience - I am married from 5 years now, dated with my wife 3 years before that, and before that I had two 1-year relationships, all my girfriends respected me and respect me even now - these are my recommendations)  

1. Listen to Oldrimer - never be a nice guy at first.
Girls really are bad at judging man from first sight.
Their mind is strangely twisted. They really want a boy like you. (From your post I see that you are a sensitive and clever guy). But when they first see this in a guy their instinct tells them this guy is weak and they could not expect a mans support from him. This instinct is built-in almost in their genetic code. In old times marrying the stronger(physically and psychically) man was crucial for the survival of the woman. Now the woman is equal to man, she wants to be this way and seeks a supportive, gentle, clever guy but the old instinct hinders her from seeing this at first.

2. The first hint is - never pay her bills at first date, never give her present at first - you are getting pathethic in her eyes and loosing your own self respect. Give her a lot of jokes, talk on your interests, give compliments only if you really feel it is right. Then when she is interested with you - go away, with some good reason of course. Don't call for next date, don't call her at all!! This is like a fishermans job. Learn from her friends where she is going at nights. Then go there accidently. When you notice her pretend that you did not. If she comes to you surprised and pleased that she sees you then she has swallowed the bait. Do this Cat&mouse play as many times as you wish but everytime behave with her nicer and nicer.

3. The cat&mouse play could not last forever, so when you think you are ready you could become YOURSELF. She already suspects by this far that you could be nice. When it occurs to her that you are gentle and sensitive, but also a hard man and not genle to everyone but her, then she will surely fall in love.

4. She is yours to do whatever you wish, but never betray her, cause she already trusts you and if you leave her on this stage of the relationship, she will feel even worse than you feel now. So you are warned - if you are not serious towards the girl do not go for the last step of my manual.

(This manual is copyrighted. Do not use it in any illegal way)
       
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posted February 05, 2002 06:57 AM

Batvanio...

You are advising a guy how to get snows maybe...
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posted February 05, 2002 07:11 AM

xxx

Not at all Milena.

snows can be bought. They need presents and money - they do not need tactics and special approach!
 

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posted February 05, 2002 08:15 AM

Right,Batvanio

I think that a problem that no one mentioned here is that if there are guys and jerks, so there are many types of girls. So you have to find the right one for yourself (at least that's what I think). I'm not an expert at this, I started off pretty badly (it's a long story), but I realized that it's not only the date and afterwards that matters. It's like "know your enemy". Just try to find out something about the girl before dating her. That way you will have an idea of what present you should get her, though I think Batvanio's advice of no present is very good. Another thing is that you mentioned dating. It's not the same dating a girl you want to be your GF, or a girl you want to spend all your life with.  
Just try playin' some Heroes3 and you'll learn some combat tactics  
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posted February 05, 2002 08:40 AM

Please, Aculias, keep us posted

on your news...when are you going to start dating her?

No present is good but for example if you pass near a flowerstall, you could buy her a flower if she hints at it. Or you could try to win a toy for her. :-)
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posted February 05, 2002 09:23 AM

Quote:
No present is good but for example if you pass near a flowerstall, you could buy her a flower if she hints at it. Or you could try to win a toy for her. :-)


I agree with Milena that such gesture is a winning one - BUT, BUT only on the end of stage 3 of my manual.
NO ROSE, NO TOY before she is interested with you. Else all your efforts are in vain. Trust me.
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posted February 05, 2002 01:53 PM

Batvanio...

if you don't call a girl after you've been with her, trust me, you will lose her. Because you will be male lie #1 coming true: "I will call" and you never do.

And the guys feels so ordinary.
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posted February 09, 2002 02:40 AM

sorry I have not been on the last few days(internet problems)
WEEEELL tomorrow is the big day & wish me luck.
I listened to everyone of you & I hope it goes well.
& lets hope I wont have anymore internet problems either lol
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