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angelito
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posted November 07, 2010 07:24 PM |
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...Hitler's illegal in Germany, or so I hear)...
lol...
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posted November 07, 2010 07:37 PM |
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I don't think Germany/Austria-Hungary/Ottoman ever realistically considered having dominance in the seas; they knew it wasn't going to happen. Later in WW2 Germany so eagerly pounced on the opportunity to building an alliance with Italy largely because they were focused on at least maintaining sea power within the Mediterranean, even if it couldn't contend as much in the open ocean. You don't need to lock down the entire Atlantic if you can shut down the Suez. From that point you can go ahead and let Britain import their rubber from SE Asia or their oil from the ME by taking a massive hike around Africa. Later on they resorted to spamming the ocean with packs of subs to cause as much damage as possible. It was never about outright naval domination, at least not in the short term.
At any rate, WW2 happened because of Versailles. Hitler or somebody like him would have remained a nobody otherwise. They wouldn't have ever went into emo-rage otherwise because they wouldn't have the support to do it, simple as that. It could be said that WW1 started because of colonies, but I think you're overestimating how orderly it was. It was an unlucky chain reaction if anything.
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posted November 07, 2010 10:19 PM |
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What the hell are we talking about?
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posted November 07, 2010 10:55 PM |
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I don't think Germany/Austria-Hungary/Ottoman ever realistically considered having dominance in the seas; they knew it wasn't going to happen.
Think again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Naval_Laws
We talk about Germany here, mind you. And it's not a question of dominance. It's a question of not being dominated. See, colonies in oversee make no sense when you can't reach them - or their transports can't reach you since your ports will be blockaded. So Germany needed a fleet strong enough to stand against England - or at least try building one.
Since the Brits did in fact blockade Germany in the war, Germany tried to break the blockade with what they got at the time which was not insignificant - but not enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland
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shyranis
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posted November 11, 2010 06:28 PM |
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Edited by shyranis at 18:29, 11 Nov 2010.
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This map is fairly honest.
Far right, far left. Who cares, they are nore vocal but they are not sane and as has been proven time and time again, dangerous if they do convince people they deserve power. They should just consult this map above here.
edit: didn't notice not 100% appropriate language for directly displaying the image. Linked it instead.
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posted November 11, 2010 06:35 PM |
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Since the Brits did in fact blockade Germany in the war, Germany tried to break the blockade with what they got at the time which was not insignificant - but not enough.
They could have dragged the Royal navy into a decisive battle but the German leadership was afraid.
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blizzardboy
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posted November 13, 2010 07:27 PM |
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I don't think Germany/Austria-Hungary/Ottoman ever realistically considered having dominance in the seas; they knew it wasn't going to happen.
Think again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Naval_Laws
We talk about Germany here, mind you. And it's not a question of dominance. It's a question of not being dominated. See, colonies in oversee make no sense when you can't reach them - or their transports can't reach you since your ports will be blockaded. So Germany needed a fleet strong enough to stand against England - or at least try building one.
Since the Brits did in fact blockade Germany in the war, Germany tried to break the blockade with what they got at the time which was not insignificant - but not enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jutland
That surprises me. I didn't think Germany became more ambitious with their navy until the next war.
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posted March 31, 2011 04:47 PM |
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*casts level 1 revive*
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article4078250.ece
Google translated version, bit poor translation
Grorudalen is a part of the ever expanding Norwegian capital.
Apparently the "ghettoisation" has gotten to the point where the Norwegians are a minority.
Apparently the foreign muslim culture has gotten out and started to isolate itself.
While it could be the newspaper that is giving a really wrong image of the case(fearmongering), if it is remotely true this is indeed scary.
Not "scary" because it is like frighting, but it just shows how poorly done the immigration policy is at the moment.
I guess the rightwings flag will burn sooner or late.... 
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