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markkur
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posted November 17, 2010 07:01 PM

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What's a QA?

Well, I'd love to, actually. But I don't really know how to make money out of it. Especially in my country


QA= Quality Assurance. I was a Tech. an Auditor worked with SPC etc.

Maybe just seeking on the internet...some possiblities. Dream man

Anyway I will go with BG2 and WoG if I can discover they are OK on W7. The last thing I need is headaches right now.
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Doomforge
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posted November 17, 2010 07:08 PM

Perhaps I'll try...Oh and in case you like my reviews, here are some game reviews. And there's also the Harry Potter insight I really should update...
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posted November 24, 2010 09:20 AM

Hello there I have never played Baldurs Gate, but I have played Dragon Age and I understand the DA is some kind of spiritual predecessor of BG.
So I just wondering, will I enjoy BG now that I have gotten used to all the cool features of DA? Or will it be like that time i tried Heroes 1, which is to say it was cool but not that playable
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Doomforge
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posted November 24, 2010 11:39 AM

BG is a different game. Dragon Age uses simplified system, BG uses a computer variant of Dungeons & Dragons  (version 2.5? or was it 2? I don't remember exactly). You will probably feel at loss with THAC0 system which is completely counter intuitive, and the spells have level requirements which mean most of the first game you will be running with a few memorized magic missiles for your mage and that's all.

You may also not like the rarity of level-ups, even though BG2 ultimately allows the player to advance to level 40. In BG1 however, you have a long game with intended character level of 7 at the end, so...

Actually I'd recommend starting with Baldur's Gate 2. It's faster paced. You may like it, but it's pretty different, actually.
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posted November 24, 2010 12:44 PM

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There is no excuse not to own this.


Waw, all BG till Throne of Bhaal with BG2 engine! sounds great

downloading right now
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posted November 24, 2010 01:45 PM

It includes ToB
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posted November 24, 2010 11:47 PM

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BG is a different game. Dragon Age uses simplified system, BG uses a computer variant of Dungeons & Dragons  (version 2.5? or was it 2? I don't remember exactly). You will probably feel at loss with THAC0 system which is completely counter intuitive, and the spells have level requirements which mean most of the first game you will be running with a few memorized magic missiles for your mage and that's all.

You may also not like the rarity of level-ups, even though BG2 ultimately allows the player to advance to level 40. In BG1 however, you have a long game with intended character level of 7 at the end, so...

Actually I'd recommend starting with Baldur's Gate 2. It's faster paced. You may like it, but it's pretty different, actually.

Hmm sounds interesting definitely going to try it when I get enough time
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posted November 25, 2010 12:24 AM

It's a Hell of a lot more fun than Dragon Age.  Dragon Age was about as generic and tedious as "dark fantasy" gets.
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posted November 25, 2010 12:30 AM
Edited by jabanoss at 00:32, 25 Nov 2010.

We will see about that
don't really believe you because I found Dragon age to be one of the best games I have played. Not saying it is maybe better then BG just that I won't enjoy it that much, but but I will come back when I have played it(which might take time )

Edit: I should add that dragon age was the first of that kind of RPG I actually played so
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posted November 25, 2010 08:13 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 08:14, 25 Nov 2010.

Dragon Age was by no means bad. It was a good game, just a bit shallow in some aspects. For example, I'd like a deeper meaning to romances (BG default ones were usually more interesting) - DA Romances were "hey, you're good lookin' and you throw me a ton of compliments and gifts in the face, let's go to bed together" or "I love sex and I just can't get enough of it in the middle of darkspawn-infested woods". Morrigan romance had some potential, but it got absolutely ruined by that gawd-awful dlc "witch hunt".


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posted November 25, 2010 09:51 AM

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BG uses a computer variant of Dungeons & Dragons  (version 2.5? or was it 2? I don't remember exactly)


BG is 2.0.

BG 2 is largely 2.5 with just a hint of 3.0 added in (epic feats, Barbarians/Sorcerers aren't in 2.x IIRC).

You know, for as dumb as the THAC0 system was, and how shallow the skill system was back in the day, I actually miss it. But that could be since I played 2nd Ed (aka AD&D) Dungeons and Dragons renditions for about a good decade or so.

And, for all of the things I've heard about DA, I haven't played it.

I prefer the first Baldur's Gate because spellcasters aren't godly by the end of it (but that's an issue with the system more than the game itself; an issue later editions tried to fix, with mixed results). I won't deny that the ranged damage bug in BG1 was fun as well...

With that said, both games are awesome, and I beat BG1 (with the expansion installed) and nearly beat BG2 (no expansion installed) as well. Definitely one of my favorite series of all time. So, yeah, get it and play it if you don't have it already!!

-brief review/buy-it-now pitch end-
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posted November 25, 2010 10:03 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 10:03, 25 Nov 2010.

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I prefer the first Baldur's Gate because spellcasters aren't godly by the end of it (but that's an issue with the system more than the game itself; an issue later editions tried to fix, with mixed results). I won't deny that the ranged damage bug in BG1 was fun as well...


Spellcasters were overrated in that game, much like in DA. Sure, they could freeze time and throw a buttload of spells, but that was a one trick pony. And you had to rest every time after or have no spells at all.

The real power were fighter/mages of all variants. The notorious Kensai/Mage dual class was probably the best of all characters.


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posted November 25, 2010 10:10 AM

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Spellcasters were overrated in that game, much like in DA. Sure, they could freeze time and throw a buttload of spells, but that was a one trick pony. And you had to rest every time after or have no spells at all.


Except once you got to such a high level, you have a bunch of spell slots (even more if you're a specialist Mage).

Also, you're forgetting Wondrous Recall.
(Albeit that only works on spell slots below level 6, but still...it's good if you can't rest immediately.)

Also, I have to agree that Kensais are down-right nasty. I've never rolled one though.
(I usually rolled an Archer in my playthroughs, for all the good arrows do in the last 20% of the game...*mumble*Protection from Missiles*mumble* :/)
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posted November 25, 2010 10:59 AM

You can dispel protections Inquisitor is fun, he completely rapes casters. With some positioning you will not affect your own casters and double-power dispel will strip enemy casters instantly (casting time 0 ftw) of everything they have. From that point they just take it in the ****ing butt. A caster without protections is a fly on the wall.

I know about wish-resting and such, but it doesn't actually work every time, and I refuse to load until it works There's more to a mage than casting fireballs, seeing that a endgame warrior does fireball damage every hit (and hits 5 times per second), and the game lacks big clusters of enemies.
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posted November 26, 2010 12:36 AM

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The real power were fighter/mages of all variants. The notorious Kensai/Mage dual class was probably the best of all characters.



Absolutely. There's little that beats the sweet joy of Hasted, Non-dectected, Improved Invisible Kensai/Mages using the Mage Staff+5 and Kai

Absolutely, hands down, the easiest way to dispose of Kangaxx without losses or needing to cast Freedom.
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posted January 04, 2011 05:01 AM

Unfortunately, in the non-broken version of this game Kensei/ mage just doesn't work... Besides, cross classing mage only cuts the knees out from under your Kensei by gimping its damage potential and ability to hit with every single attack no matter what. (Love that about them )

I love this game! Every other game that I've played like it has only disappointed me. Blizzard did a good job.

(Favorite class is still the God awfully OP'd Monk
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posted January 06, 2011 10:52 AM

I always thought the first Baldur's Gate was much better than the second, which I didn't think much of. Anyway, Neverwinter Nights 2 + Mask of the Betrayer are the best yet!

To bad with the 4th edition's retarded rules, there ain't gonna be another good RPG based on Forgotten Realms.
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gnomes2169
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posted January 07, 2011 12:08 AM

Bah, let them have their 4.0 rules. I've sill got good ol' 1.0-3.5. They will never allow those Chaotic Evil paladins to exist (Black guard are still lawful, though they are fallen paladins).The Forgotten Realms shall live on forever!

Though maybe with some arthritis... Jk
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted January 07, 2011 12:54 AM

Ugh.  I do not like 4th ed.  D&D Online killed it for me.  
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posted January 07, 2011 02:23 AM

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Ugh.  I do not like 4th ed.  D&D Online killed it for me.  


Agree.
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