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jabanoss
Promising
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posted November 27, 2010 12:25 PM |
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Out of the blue sure, but it would be awesome. Imagine a savanna-styled theme with gnolls and and other cool random stuff.  
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SkrentyzMienty
Famous Hero
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posted November 27, 2010 01:37 PM |
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@einomida I like your idea, it would be a very interesting faction that could bring the Gnolls back and might have some sort of a Shaman for a caster 
My guess is that the 5th faction will be an aquatic one(Naga, as it is being referred to, but I'd prefer there to be only 2 actual Naga units:a female and male one) I hope the lineup to be this:
Core: Murloc, Sea Serpent(Coatl), Basilisk
Elite: Mermaid, Naga, Myrmidon(male Naga)
Champion: Sea Monster(Leviathan)
Please don't kill me for the Murloc and Myrmidon also being in Warcraft, Warcraft didn't invent them, and the names/appearance can be changed to suit HOMM style - it's just the basic idea for the units that I'd want to be in the 5th faction of H6
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Aatos
Adventuring Hero
Heroic Adventurer
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posted November 27, 2010 09:18 PM |
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Like I wrote in the thread for the 4th faction, I think that they will always change the lore to fit the game rather then change the game to fit the lore, because the gameplay is the most important thing, in my opinion.
The Faceless would be nice, since they would be different from the other factions, and therefore unique. They could also be incorporated with the Dungeon faction.
The Dragon Knights I don't know much about, however I red that they are more like a secret organisation of heroes and not a seperate faction, correct me if I'm wrong.
And, the Lizarmen and Naga could be in the same faction, because they are so similar. A lizard is a snake with legs. They are both reptilian.
Of course when making a faction one should always keep in mind that rule about not having to many different or to many similar creatures, so you don't get a one race faction or a bunch of unconnected creatures, but rather something like 2+5 or 3+4, like it has been discussed in recent threads.
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vitorsly
Known Hero
Joker!
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posted November 27, 2010 11:43 PM |
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Edited by vitorsly at 23:46, 27 Nov 2010.
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I would like something like this:
Core:
Lizardman-Lizard hunter (walker-shooter) (H3)
Naga warrior-Myrmidon (walker with good power) (H3 male)
Mermaid-Siren(casters) (H4)
Elite:
Iguana Fighter-Iguana berseker(Brutish fighters) (Scaler game)
Naga priestess-Naga chossen (shooter-shooting caster) (female with magic staff)
Giant Turtle-War turtle ( a tank unit) (giant turtle)
Champion:
Kirin-Azure Drake (fliers) (H3 azure dragon)
To see the Iguana FIghter google
scaler game
And it is the big guy in the pic 3
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 28, 2010 12:16 AM |
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I want an African styled faction. Now that's something you don't see every day.
Though it would be totally out of the blue.
I feel like H5 Stronghold already was, to a certain degree; it had a very "tribal" vibe. That's how I like to see real-world influences in Heroes; subtle, but not overdone. A straight-up Asian samurai naga faction would be a little much.
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jabanoss
Promising
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posted November 28, 2010 01:11 AM |
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I thought that H5 stronghold were more of a Central Asian-themed, as if the barbarians were supposed to resemble Mongol-warlords
But hey that is just me
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted November 28, 2010 03:50 AM |
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I thought that H5 stronghold were more of a Central Asian-themed, as if the barbarians were supposed to resemble Mongol-warlords
But hey that is just me
Could be, but the shamans, and the deities, "Father Sky", etc, struck me as African too; could be both way I guess. That female Shaman character (I forget her name) did look very tribal to me, at least.
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Jackson
Known Hero
Random Spirit Lover
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posted November 28, 2010 03:55 AM |
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Could be Native American as well. That's what "Father Sky" reminds me of.
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted December 02, 2010 11:55 PM |
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as for now Naga-like faction leads..
i still hope we will be proved wrong and it will be a surprise!
i personally don't want to see lots of naga...
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Jabanoss
Promising
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posted December 03, 2010 12:04 AM |
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Agreed, if there is going to be a Naga faction then I hope it will only be 1 (max 2) naga units. The rest could be awesome swamp/jungle creatures
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 03, 2010 03:01 AM |
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I do have to agree that nagas, as a creature, seem better suited to a unit than a faction as a whole.
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serptico
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 03, 2010 05:12 AM |
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Meaning of a 5th new faction??
For me a 5th new faction means creatures that never made it in any Heroes series? I mean if you think about it, Heroes series have captured every mythological creatures and units BUT one.
Have you ever seen the "bug people" Human form bugs? In heroes? It is a mythological creature?
I mean there are references in dungeon and dragons series where you see an "Ant Warrior" fighting a human Knight, either in forgotten realms or DragonLance series.
Anyways .. here it is ..
Hive
Core = ant warrior, mosquete archer, fire beetle
Elite = shield bug, hornet sharpshooter, dragonfly berzerker
Champion = mantis warmonger
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted December 03, 2010 07:11 AM |
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I really hope they will do a more norse mythology / Viking based town.
And not only using the Lightning hammer, dwarfs and rune magic.
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 03, 2010 07:37 AM |
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I really hope they will do a more norse mythology / Viking based town.
And not only using the Lightning hammer, dwarfs and rune magic.
Dwarves have great potential to turn into an actually interesting Norse-based faction.
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Disturbed-Gnu
Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
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posted December 03, 2010 07:54 AM |
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Dwarves have great potential to turn into an actually interesting Norse-based faction.
Not only great potential, they originally is from Norse Mythology together with Giants, Vølver, Norner, Alfs, valkyries and so on.. Its an awesome theme!
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 03, 2010 08:05 AM |
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Naga from warcraft = 
These look like random creatures with snake tails, pretty sure H6 Naga won't be similar to them at all.
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Jabanoss
Promising
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posted December 03, 2010 09:36 AM |
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Then make a medusa, minotaur, mummy and pixie faction aswel, makes just as much sense...
Naga's are guardian creatures, they are made by magic, they should NOT be a race like lizardmen, dwarves, elves, humans and halflings...
The idea of making naga's a race is only sprong from World of Warcraft, because those naga's could be perfectly made into a race...
But the homm naga's, the ones from homm3 and 4 are nothing like those naga's.
None of the above form a race much like orcs or humans, they are all guardian creatures that should be special in any army, not the race creature.
There are no problems that the Nagas should have their own faction, as long as they explain it lore-wise. You say they are Guardians made of magic, well all creatures and races in Heroes are made of magic(in a sence). Guardians or not they can still make a faction, just because they might not be as numerous as humans and their lack of legs does not make them any less capable of forming a faction.
I'm also fairly sure they will not make them look like the warcraft ones, since they already had Nagas in H3 and artwork of them for H5/H6.
Yeah sure they might as well make factions of medusas or mummies, they just need to make sure it fits and that the faction as a whole is unique and interesting. Besides IF they make a Naga faction it will add so much, considering that all the other ones main races only consists of 2-legged, overused, generic creatures.
I thought you disliked 2-leggedness and loved multi-armedness, Well here you have a multi-armed snake race
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Jabanoss
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posted December 03, 2010 03:06 PM |
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naga's should stay legendary creatures much like manticores, dragons and unicorns, not some weak race based creature such as elves, dwarves and humans.
Just because they are the main race in a faction does not make them necessarily weak. From where have you got that idea? And they are not that similar to the ones from Warcraft.
Just so you in Heroes 3 Minotaurs together with the Troglodytes were the main race in Dungeon.
Edit: I mean this is not similar to the Warcraft ones
Naga Artwork
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 03, 2010 03:17 PM |
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Naga from warcraft =
These look like random creatures with snake tails, pretty sure H6 Naga won't be similar to them at all.
That's actually what the HV Naga concept art looks like... 
In any case, I find Nagas as a race weird because I simply can't see them doing anything but fighting with a bunch of swords. Naga archers? Naga mages? Just seems weird.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 03, 2010 03:19 PM |
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Naga archers? Like with 3 bows? Firing several arrows from each bow at once?
Overkill
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