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Thread: The history of time & a person's thoughts..? This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
selcy
selcy


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posted November 28, 2010 11:14 PM

they certainly seem to make it dificult to visit anywhere nowadays takes the piss (sorry for swearing). Yes when I visit the States apparently you have to fill a form in on the flight stating where your going to stay, I guess thats incase you over stay your welcome they will come and get you hehe

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selcy
selcy


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posted November 28, 2010 11:16 PM

I thought we were on the Visa waiver program now so you dont need one as long as you have a chipped passport!!!

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Fauch
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posted November 29, 2010 12:10 AM
Edited by Fauch at 00:12, 29 Nov 2010.

yeah and it's not because of terrorism, it's mainly stupid nationalism. after all, we are talking about travelling from a country to another.

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1910
1910


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posted November 29, 2010 12:16 AM
Edited by 1910 at 00:17, 29 Nov 2010.

No, actually, one of the main reasons is terrorism. That's why countries are much stricter nowadays because of recent terrorist activities.

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posted November 29, 2010 12:33 AM
Edited by Fauch at 00:36, 29 Nov 2010.

then, why do I even need a visa to travel? can't you just go to the airport, pay and take your flight?
if that isn't some kind of nationalism...

when you travel by train in your own country, you don't have to go through a hell of a lot of paperwork or submit to multiples controls.
here, you could enter a train without a ticket and not be controlled

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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted November 29, 2010 12:40 AM

It could be both but the terrorism acts seem to be getting worst & worst.
Many people in the US are getting arrested with bomb threats.
Women & men are all accountable for.

It's getting scarier every year.
It seems like it is getting worst & worst.

I think they just want to be sure people are being sincere & not trying to just go into the states for their own purposes.

It goes for any other country visiting another country.

It is getting very serious!
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selcy
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posted November 29, 2010 12:47 AM

You can actually arrive in America, England or where ever and still be refused entry and sent back if they are in any doubt your not telling the truth. They have to be 100% sure that you will leave the country when your suppose to. It sucks especially if you have a genuine reason for visiting. Then again nothing in life is easy if its worth fighting for then fight for it i'm going to

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posted November 29, 2010 05:02 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 05:16, 29 Nov 2010.

Ultimately, the nature of the public must be blamed before the government can be blamed.

The regulations and security measures at US airports can be tiresome and it comes at the expense of both the state and the airline companies themselves, whom I pity.

Why are these measures in place? Because the majority of the public operates according to the Law of Knee-Jerk Reactions. The majority of the public is annoyed and cynical towards these security measures, and likewise, the majority of the public would be crying a river of tears if a successful terrorist attack were to occur and whine about why there weren't more security measures in place. In such a setting, there is an underlying incentive among policy-making to error on the side of caution perhaps too much.

In my subjective opinion, there are more important things in life than the quantity of living. One of them is living without being encumbered by unnecessary difficulties. A masterful terrorist plot would likely out-maneuver these security measures anyway, and either way I consider the cost of these security measures to be unworthy. You're overwhelmingly more likely to die in a crash driving to the airport than you are to get killed by terrorists. I say remove the headache and accept the extremely tiny risk.

There is a counter-argument to this though that I do respect, even though it doesn't quite sell me. It is the claim that one terrorist attack inevitability leads to the inspiration of others, in the same way that a new invention can lead to another person to inventing the same thing even without direct assistance from the first inventor. 9/11 no doubt gave millions of people ideas that they otherwise wouldn't have seriously entertained. Simply the fact that a major attack like that occurred means the probability of another one happening has increased.
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Aculias
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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted November 29, 2010 05:19 AM

if i remember right, your out there in the states too?

It seems to be going on everywhere.
Terrorist acts are from minor the big threats.
Many people at airports alone have been caught trying not only smuggle but bombs as well.

Not just in airports, it happens alot where there are a crowd of people.

People are the reasons why we blame the govt for what is happening.


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1910
1910


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posted November 29, 2010 07:20 AM

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then, why do I even need a visa to travel? can't you just go to the airport, pay and take your flight?
if that isn't some kind of nationalism...




Uhhhhhh, lol, so they know that it is a legit visit and so they know it isn't dodgy. The people that do get stopped is usually because they are dodgy because of no visa and all.

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Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted November 29, 2010 07:53 AM

I love you 1910 I LOVES YOU!!!!!????/!...?!!?...????
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What if Elvin was female?
posted November 29, 2010 12:38 PM

Remember the times when you were a kid and the pilots would let you into the cockpit to see all the cool devices and play that you were flying the plane?

I wonder what would happen if that went on today still.
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Seraphim
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posted November 29, 2010 04:18 PM


One must understand that you can not pass or live a day without getting angry about something,unless you ignore it and proceed to not look at the bad things.However,ignoring things such as bullying,racism and such does not help at all.Europe is an example of this.The moral norms in europe are deteriorating.Nobody gives a damn if are injured or not,lieing on the road.Yet in the end,if a dog gets overun by some truck,public media will harass the one who did it.If it was a human who got overrun,it would not even get to the local news.How amaizing is that?

Daily stresses like violence,bullying,murder(watching news) and the indifference that people show,makes me mad.Yet in our modern life,you can not afford being mad or being benevolent or pursuing something you wish-desire.You are forced to subdue to this "Game",if you dont,you end up getting debts and a life ruin probably.






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Fauch
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posted November 29, 2010 05:50 PM

when media talk about it, people aren't indifferent anymore but they become vengeful.

but I doubt most of them give a snow about the person who died or suffered, they probably just see an occasion to vent the frustration caused by their miserable life on some scapegoat.

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posted December 03, 2010 11:54 AM

I would think that the fear of terrorism gave birth to prejudice (duh!) and thus created a "we and them" feeling. That is basicly the core of nationalism and it didn't take long before this prejudice led to both prejudice AND nationalism.
The fact that most terrorist acts are made by extreme groups in the country where the act of terrorism is performed, or from a neighbouring country. I think that 2008 (or 07) roughly 1,5% of the terrorist attacks in Europe were performed by arabs or people from arabcountries (above 90% were performed by europeans). Still the arabs are for some strange reason the target for this prejudice.
I can promise you that more terrorist attacks are performed by christian extremists in the US than those performed by muslim extremists.
So having high security at air ports are rather a form of nationalism than an act to reduce terrorist attacks. I would rather believe the opposite: these controls will increase suspicions against foreigners and thus increase nationalism (which I believe is the cause of almost all terrorist attacks) as well as giving a rather bad impression for the foreigners that visit a country (increasing their nationalism).
A better way would be to have a better chemical and weapons control as well as trying to reduce extreme nationalism. It would be a lot harder to blow stuff up it was harder to get (effective) explosives and a lot harder to shoot people if there weren't as many guns.

Nationalism also has some good things, since it (usually) unites people and decrease suspicions and the prejudice, within that certain group of people.
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