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Wesley
Wesley


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posted February 04, 2002 12:44 AM

Poll Question:
ELemENtaL MaDnEsS (Poll)


Just look at this pic... And try to hold your laugh for 1 second.
If you succide this without laughing REALLY HARD then you really need to see a docter! I tell you! These so called ELEMENTALS look like pokemon!

What do you think about this elementals?

PS:I will update this thread into a whole other elemental Dictonairy thread tomorrow.
With profiles and pictures of:

Undine(Water elemental)
Salamander(Fire Elemental)
Sylph(Air Elemental)
And Lurker(Earth Elemental/homm3 version)

But first VOTE! LOL!

Responses:
I think NWC must stop watching pokemon.. It really get into those guys.
I really love them! I'm twelve!
There so cute! I will buy this game for my son of 3. because he loves pokemon.
What's wrong with you? They are cool! And they even look scary! look at those CLAWS!
There cool... But I needed to see the docter anyway..
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Linkki
Linkki


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posted February 04, 2002 09:32 AM

BOGEMON FOREVA!!1

No, really. The air and fire elementals are ok, but the other two look just plain bad. Anyways, I think the water elemental STILL looks better than the one in HoMM3. The earth elemental I don't understand.
I guess I could live with the water elemental the way it is, but the earth elemental MUST change.

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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted February 04, 2002 10:22 AM

hmmm... something must be done about this...

at least they didn't introduced the Teletubbies as the new elementals ...brrrrr... "shivers"

the water and air elemental are ok... the earth one should go to a modern art museum and someone lost his pokeball for the fire one to run loose...
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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted February 04, 2002 10:41 AM

Really, I think the fire elemental can be good if well animated.

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Djive
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posted February 04, 2002 11:02 AM

I had hoped that the Elementals went out the window with the elemental magic skills....

Why? Because often the animations of elementals are plain bad when compared to other creatures, so therefore leaving out elementals and mking some other creatures instead makes a better game.

If they wanted to keep elementals they should have made the Genie the Air Elemental, the Efreet the Fire Elemental and then made up two more similar elementals for Water and Earth.

This reminds me of it being wrong that Genies hate Efreet... Air and Fire are normally allied Elements. The hatred is between Fire and Water. Water and Earth are allied, and Earth and Air are indifferent.

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Linkki
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posted February 04, 2002 11:09 AM

I don't think they were going to put the elementals in HoMMIV in the first place, as we didn't hear about them at all. It might be possible that they have now just hurried making the animations for all the four of them. I wouldn't mind if the elementals weren't present, either.

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Wesley
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posted February 04, 2002 07:20 PM

You all forgot the cool elementals!

For Air there is the Sylph
Sylph are half tornado half Female. They look like the homm3 storm elementals. only in female and NON cartoonish.

For Water there is the Undine Undine are like blue females. they can controll water with their triton weapon. They have long blue hair. They also don't look cartoonish.

For Fire there is the Salamander This one is my favorite. It looks like a red lizardman. But they don't have legs. But their body is more like a snake. but then in salamandertail form. Not snake bodied but salamander tail like. They also have strange long things comming from their head. They hold an fire staff.

For Earth there are 2 possibilities.
There is the Gnome(who is the original one) And the Lurker(the homm3 elemental version,only a bit different. he's one with earth.)
Myself likes the Lurker better. Because gnomes can't do anything with earth. They only hold the power to be elemental of it. Lurkers can form objects from earth and they can fight and regenerate with earth.

Light and Darkness are 2 other elementals.
Will O Wisps(Wisp) and Shades(Shadow) should hold those two elements.

This one don't look that STUPID colorfull like the HOMM3 versions and the don't look cartoonish like the pokemon versions from homm4.
My guess is that they don't know much about the REAL elementals.
And they make up stupid elementals themself. however. I like the homm3 fire elemental myself.But the salamander is cooler...
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Linkki
Linkki


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posted February 04, 2002 07:30 PM

You can't talk about 'real' elementals. Real on based what? Another game you played?

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Wesley
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posted February 04, 2002 07:36 PM
Edited By: Wesley on 4 Feb 2002

Lol!

Everybody knows the Salamander and gnome are the real Elementals. The undine and sylph could be replaced by Djinn and Sprite.

I admire the curouch of NWC!
That they even dear to show this screen to the fans! LOL that's curouch!
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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted February 05, 2002 12:00 AM

I wouldn't call "everybody knows" the best argument I have heard in a while. You didn't even answer my question, so could you now kindly point out on what basis or by which belief are these the 'real' elementals?

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Wesley
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posted February 05, 2002 12:05 AM
Edited By: Wesley on 4 Feb 2002

Okay..

I saw it in books.
I saw it in games.
I heard it from others.
I liked it from the start.


And I guess everybody whould like to see this elementals much better then a bunch of stupid pokemon copies...
A shame they only have stupid statue(not cool) pictures of this creatures. I will find them for you.

This a pretty cool Undine

Hmm Sylph and Salamander

Ánd for last CLICK on this!-->
ELEMENTALS




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Wesley
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posted February 05, 2002 11:26 PM

Shiva?

Wasn't shiva that 6 armed elephant thing?


I still like to see:
Earth:Lurker/Gnome/Mantray
Water:Undine/Amorph/Djinn/Siren
Air:Sylph/Genie/Thunderbird
Fire:Salamander/Efreet/Fire Witch
Darkness:Shade/Shadow
Light:Will O wisp/Light Elemental(Might and Magic 8)

One from those must be choosen and putted in. Those creatures doesn't have that Pokemon style look. Some are maybe colorfull. But in a different cooler way.

LMAO! JUST LOOK AT THAT FIRE ELEMENTAL! You almost die from laughter!
Not to start with that Earth something!
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Sandro
Sandro


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posted February 05, 2002 11:46 PM

Ahh, yes Shiva is that elephat-creature, dunno why Square give that name for the Goddess of Ice (similar to your Undine pic).

Talking about elementals, did you ever play some Final Fantasy games?

In that game :

Water/Ice : Leviathan, Shiva, Siren.
Fire : Salamander, Efreet.
Air/Lightning: Ramuh, Quetzalcoatl
Earth : Titan
Holy : Alexander
Darkness/Death: Odin, Diablo


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Wesley
Wesley


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posted February 05, 2002 11:50 PM

Hmm sorry.

I never played that game. I heared It looked a bit like lufia?
But as far I know it's for the Playstation. And I dislike that computer.

BY the WAY.
Aerial made this pictures long ago(And posted them already in the tavern somewhere on the last pages)

But to give a better view for the Sylph and the Lurker watch below.





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Linkki
Linkki


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posted February 06, 2002 12:09 AM

Okay, the earth elemental looks really odd, I hope they either change it or the picture is somehow funky, but I can't think of a reason why everyone should hate the fire elemental. They have taken an original turn in this one, so don't fear the new things. The fire elemental doesn't have to be a salamander or the like in every game. I've seen plenty of salamanders before and that's enough for me, NWC gives us something new.
I think you guys have played too much pokémon if you instantly think that a fireball with two arms is taken from it. This might be a cool creature when we see it in action. Maybe you'll learn to love it after a while. I'll once more point out that the last thing I want this game's creatures to be are cheap copies from other games' creatures.

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Wesley
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posted February 06, 2002 12:18 AM

Hmm

The Salamander never seen light in any Heroes games.
They are never used by them.
I don't know what's wrong with you. But do you really like this childish elemental?
I think the fire is the worst of all!
Look at that screenshot. It's an FIRE WATERhead. with floating hands. It just don't mix with all those much better looking creatures. Then I rather see the homm3 fire elemental back. This is simply the worst looking creature from all 4 heroes games.
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Linkki
Linkki


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posted February 06, 2002 12:47 AM

Yes, the salamander has never been present in a Heroes game, which is good. NWC instead uses more original creatures that aren't featured in that many other games.

What makes this fire elemental any more childish than the rest of the creatures?

I am just curious as you mentioned about it on another thread, exactly how old are you Wesley? You are in no way implied to answer this question, I understand if you want to keep your privacy. Thanks.

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Wesley
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posted February 06, 2002 04:30 PM
Edited By: Wesley on 6 Feb 2002

What are you for kind of person.

Quote:
Yes, the salamander has never been present in a Heroes game, which is good. NWC instead uses more original creatures that aren't featured in that many other games.

What makes this fire elemental any more childish than the rest of the creatures?

I am just curious as you mentioned about it on another thread, exactly how old are you Wesley? You are in no way implied to answer this question, I understand if you want to keep your privacy. Thanks.


I'm dutch and 16.

Why you keep on telling me that I can't answer your questions. I did it in here.
I'm more curious about your age. Nobody but a 1-8 year old would love this ugly abonimation.

And what do you have against salamanders?
It would be cool.
There aren't any Lizardmen. So adding a red lizardman lookalike would be cool.
And what the heck if they use it in many other games aswel...
They use Minotaur in almost every game aswel. And they even look more like the Homm4 minotaurs.


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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted February 06, 2002 06:46 PM

Well, for starters I don't think that you can't answer my questions, you just didn't earlier and I know that some people don't like to tell their age or anything else specific over the Internet.
I myself am 19.

I'm not saying that salamanders would be all bad, but that something more original is nice. Though I realized that asking for something original isn't a small thing to ask nowdays.

The elementals in this game seem to be more magic than creatures. The fire elemental is just flames, not a man in flames or some other kind of a creature. Neither is the water or wind elemental any creature. I guess they tried to do the same thing with the earth elemental, but that got a bit out of hands in my opinion.

So, I will once more point out that you didn't exactly answer my question; I asked WHY is the creature more childish than the others? Let's say for example the beholder. I didn't ask WHO would like that one, I asked WHY!

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Xenophanes
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posted February 09, 2002 05:31 PM

I'm disgusted...

I think the new Elementals are perfect. Instead of creating some personified, corporeal manifestation, NWC artists have stripped the Elementals down to their own raw elements. By what we've heard and seen in movie previews so far, though, I'd guess that the Elemental animations will be spectacular, perhaps even occasionally morphing into different things(e.g. Water Elemental takes on a quasi-semblance to a sword when attacking, shield when defending, perhaps an eel or merperson?), for those of you who don't have the maturity let go of the fake CORPOREAL form!
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