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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 06, 2011 05:30 PM - penalty applied by VokialBG on 13 Aug 2011.
Edited by Corribus at 07:04, 14 Aug 2011.

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I have no problems with trolls in general, the thing is that we still have an identical one and I'm tired of the God save America kind already.

What we need is a Muslim fanatic. Or a Chinese loyalist. Hell, even a hardcore Russian or South African racist would suffice. This is just meh.
Whatever person has posted here during the last year, I guarantee that he or she is not me. Actually I used to be anti-US in the past, before I realised what the alternatives would be.

I wouldn't exactly enjoy a muslim fanatic, but the others could do.

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posted February 06, 2011 05:38 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 17:38, 06 Feb 2011.

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before I realised what the alternatives would be.



What alternatives?
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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 06, 2011 05:43 PM - penalty applied by VokialBG on 13 Aug 2011.
Edited by Corribus at 07:04, 14 Aug 2011.

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before I realised what the alternatives would be.



What alternatives?

The alternatives to "Pax Americana".

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posted February 06, 2011 06:06 PM

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before I realised what the alternatives would be.



What alternatives?

The alternatives to "Pax Americana".


Describe these alternatives.
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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 06, 2011 06:37 PM - penalty applied by VokialBG on 13 Aug 2011.
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before I realised what the alternatives would be.



What alternatives?

The alternatives to "Pax Americana".


Describe these alternatives.

China, Russia, or the Muslim world being the dominant force in the world, these powers that do not believe in or respect human rights. If there where no such forces in the world, we wouldn't need the US as the world's only superpower.

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blizzardboy
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posted February 06, 2011 07:03 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 19:06, 06 Feb 2011.

I trust the US being the bouncer more than Russia or China, and possibly the EU too since the last time that region was in charge they didn't do so hot, but it's all relative. Having a single superpower means the temptation and capacity to exploit is too high. A gridlock is preferable because that means leaders will be forced to negotiate and compromise more. In the past that would mean people would simply go to war, but in a nuclear age that is no longer an issue.
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posted February 06, 2011 08:01 PM

Worst thing about America is that their leaders are intensly trying to spread their Elective Oligarchy (called Democracy for the lulz - actually, did any of those "democracy" spreaders read what democracy is supposed to be?) to the world as the best political system.

Sure, it might the best - for America's puppet countries. And I have no big problem with that. It's way better than "realistic socialism" USSR brought middle Europe 50 years ago.

BUT STOP CALLING THIS THING "DEMOCRACY". Thank you.
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posted February 06, 2011 08:11 PM

I seriously doubt Russia would be at the top in the world. China I agree with, but not Russia.
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posted February 06, 2011 10:16 PM

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Elective Oligarchy (called Democracy for the lulz )


What do you mean?
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posted February 06, 2011 10:18 PM

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I will never understand why people are so resistant to raising taxes when it would be the most viable way to turn around our economy.
It's actually quite simple. People want to keep more of their own money.
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posted February 06, 2011 10:39 PM
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For heaven's sakes don't feed the-
*notices LotN's post in the War thread*

Oh God he's spreading... Maybe it's still not too late, make fun of him now and there may still be hope!

The OSM would not survive another Elodin...


I am no troll. Don't troll yourself, please.



According to his midset of certain people on the board if you don't hate America, conservtivism, Republicans, the Tea Party, capitalism, Christianity, and girl scouts you are a troll.

The Republicans are making a decent effort to bring the budget more in line. More than the dems at least. But they need the cooperation of the dem controlled senate.
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Raelag84
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posted February 07, 2011 02:44 AM

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The Republicans are making a decent effort to bring the budget more in line. More than the dems at least. But they need the cooperation of the dem controlled senate.


Extending the Bush tax cut is not a decent effort to bring the budget in line. They came up with a "pay as you go" rule except they had exceptions up the wazoo.

By the way to extend that tax cuts the dems were coopertaive, which is why it passed. I expected the republicans to put more of an effort to balence the budget while they were unable to do so. This way the republicans could say they wanted to balance the budget while not really doing so.

In reality they did not even do that. I have yet to see any effort of the repbulicans to balence the budget.

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posted February 07, 2011 02:56 AM
Edited by moonlith at 03:00, 07 Feb 2011.

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Worst thing about America is that their leaders are intensly trying to spread their Elective Oligarchy (called Democracy for the lulz - actually, did any of those "democracy" spreaders read what democracy is supposed to be?) to the world as the best political system.

Sure, it might the best - for America's puppet countries. And I have no big problem with that. It's way better than "realistic socialism" USSR brought middle Europe 50 years ago.

BUT STOP CALLING THIS THING "DEMOCRACY". Thank you.


QFT.

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China, Russia, or the Muslim world being the dominant force in the world, these powers that do not believe in or respect human rights.

Aaaaaand you are implying that the USA does? Heh, naive.

With that said, I think we have a problem here. Elodin is multiplying somehow. Someone shoot one or the other, wherever its legal to carry guns!

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posted February 07, 2011 03:37 PM

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I will never understand why people are so resistant to raising taxes when it would be the most viable way to turn around our economy.

No, it will do nothing of the sort.  The only thing that will turn around our economy - long term - is changing our habits.  Raising taxes will only perpetuate them.

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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 07, 2011 08:22 PM - penalty applied by VokialBG on 13 Aug 2011.
Edited by Corribus at 07:05, 14 Aug 2011.

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According to his midset of certain people on the board if you don't hate America, conservtivism, Republicans, the Tea Party, capitalism, Christianity, and girl scouts you are a troll.
I think I get his type, many liberals are like that, very tolerant and open-minded individuals..

I do know of the problems of gerrymandering in the US (a problem we also have inside certain political parties here), but you cannot compare the flaws in any democratic system with having an opressive dictator denying people such basic rights as the right of free speech, the right of property and even the right of living.

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posted February 07, 2011 08:27 PM

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I do know of the problems of gerrymandering in the US (a problem we also have inside certain political parties here), but you cannot compare the flaws in any democratic system with having an opressive dictator denying people such basic rights as the right of free speech, the right of property and even the right of living.


replace the "democractic system" with "elective oligarchy" and I will agree
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posted February 07, 2011 09:08 PM

Of your 14 posts, 10 are in the OSM, praising America (and you're European).

You know who KnightDougal is.

Case closed.

Anyone who starts discussing politics with you deserves whatever he gets.
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LionoftheNorth
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posted February 07, 2011 09:19 PM - penalty applied by VokialBG on 13 Aug 2011.
Edited by Corribus at 07:05, 14 Aug 2011.

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Of your 14 posts, 10 are in the OSM, praising America (and you're European).

You know who KnightDougal is.

Case closed.

Anyone who starts discussing politics with you deserves whatever he gets.
Actually, I don't remember Knight Dougal praising America. I doubt he could even spell the name of the country. And if I am correct, he was also anti-christian.

But let's not go of-topic here.

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Raelag84
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posted February 08, 2011 02:04 AM

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I will never understand why people are so resistant to raising taxes when it would be the most viable way to turn around our economy.

No, it will do nothing of the sort.  The only thing that will turn around our economy - long term - is changing our habits.  Raising taxes will only perpetuate them.


"Starving the beast" has already been tried and it failed politically.

But more importantly we can't solve the deficit by cutting spending alone, at least not without seriously affecting the health of the country. Cutting the pork will only get us so far. We have roads to rebuild, we have research and development to conduct, laws to enforce- these things are not free.

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posted February 08, 2011 05:14 AM

While it's true we can't eliminate the deficit by cutting pork, we can certainly cut spending. And we won't have to cut research, roads, or law enforcement to do it, because they're a relatively small fraction of the budget. All we have to do is raise the retirement age and cut military spending.
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