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Thread: DotA/HoN/LoL [ This thread is 13 pages long: (1) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ]
SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2011 07:16 PM

DotA/HoN/LoL

Figured Adrius was right and we should make our own thread. So, this is for discussing the awesome game that is Defense of the Ancients and its inferior spinoffs Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends.  

Personally, DotA was always my favorite. I just couldn't get into LoL, it felt too "dumbed down" in comparison to DotA. I played HoN for a while but gave up on it recently; they never ported any of my favorite heroes, none of the new ones did much for me, and the balance started to get a little ridiculous.

Can't wait for DOTA 2 though.
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carcity
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posted January 06, 2011 07:20 PM

I play LoL cause it's free, and I'm perfectly happy with it.
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SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2011 07:24 PM

It seems like quite a nice game, I've got nothing against it; just couldn't get into it personally. The art style also had a lot to do with that, I think.

Are you able to effectively compete in LoL if you only use the free heroes and don't upgrade them? (i.e. can you earn ingame currency easily enough to unlock stuff?)
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carcity
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posted January 06, 2011 07:28 PM

First of all, how long was it since you tried it? The graphics improve all the time.

and second of all, you earn ingame money from games, all heroes can be bought by that money, and everything and stuff, but you can also purchase another kind of currency, which goes quicker.
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SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2011 07:29 PM

Oh, it wasn't the graphics; the graphics were fine. It was the art style that I didn't really like; too cartoony for my tastes, I guess.


I'm dying for more information on DOTA 2 as well, dammit Valve.
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Baklava
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posted January 06, 2011 08:32 PM

The only thing that can only be purchased with real money in LoL are different skins for your heroes. You can unlock any and every hero you want just by playing the game for a while, and there's absolutely nothing better about them if you pay for something.

I did buy a skin, though, because it contains a monocle and a top hat and a gentlemanly voice set for a hero that's essentially a giant demon beetle from outer space and I just couldn't resist the temptation.

Wondrous, isn't it, how after all these years of piracy, I find myself paying for something as unnecessary and pointless as a custom skin for a single hero.

Now, most of the things that are "dumbed down" in LoL is stuff like bugging and denying creeps and the like, which I always found kinda meh, though I understand the DotArds got incredibly used to it over time. The graphics are cartoonish but I actually like them; they give off a relaxed feeling about the whole thing. I was never a DotA fan myself.

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Azagal
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posted January 06, 2011 08:47 PM
Edited by Azagal at 21:02, 06 Jan 2011.

Well the thread is cute but I don't think there is much to discuss. DotA is the superior game and while Riot games are a very dedicated and nice lot of people which treat their community really well they don't compare to icefrog concerning the actual gameplay. The guy is a genius game designer. I mean really look at his heroes they're all pretty unique and more importantly insanely well balanced. And that's all there is to it. DotA is more complex (hero balance + denying (which really is just more micro but still)) LoL is simply more fun for me.

But of course nothing can compare to Leorics balls of steal. End of discussion. And thanks for linking to that Guide Swamplord... it's lead me to crush a lot of public games and I laugh a lot (I actually do!) everytime I read. My favourite part: "AM I A BALLER? GET REFRESHER ORB YOU ARE NOW BALLING OUT OF CONTROLE!!"
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Azagal
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posted January 06, 2011 08:49 PM

Baklava I do hope you're not implying that the "Gentelman Cho" skin wasn't worth every penny and your soul. I love Cho.
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Baklava
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posted January 06, 2011 08:54 PM

'Course not.
It was, after all, a gentleman's price for a gentleman's skin.

Though I've been concentrating on Kassadin more in the last month or so. Giving old Cho a rest. And saving money for Swain.

Also I just noticed that there's been a LoL discussion going on for the last few pages in the what're you playing thread so I feel kind of silly for saying anything in here.
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Azagal
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posted January 06, 2011 08:57 PM

Kassadin is tons of fun too. Not much use without two casters on the other team though if you ask me. And damn you get blamed everytime your team loses.

And well we're here because Adrius was getting tired of us in the other games thread.
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SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2011 09:00 PM

Quote:
Well the thread is cute but I don't think there is much to discuss. DotA is the superior game and while Riot games are a very dedicated and nice lot of people which treat their community really well they don't compare to icefrog concerning the actual gameplay. The guy is a genius game designer. I mean really look at his heroes they're all pretty unique and more importantly insanely well balanced. And that's all there is to it. DotA is more complex (hero balance + denying (which really is just more micro but still)) LoL is simply more fun for me.

But of course nothing can compare to Leorics balls of still. End of discussion. And thanks for linking to that Guide Swamplord... it's lead me to crush a lot of public games and I laugh a lot (I actually do!) everytime I read. My favourite part: "AM I A BALLER? GET REFRESHER ORB YOU ARE NOW BALLING OUT OF CONTROLE!!"



That guide makes me weep tears of joy.

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REFRESHER ORB
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mamgaeater
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posted January 06, 2011 09:09 PM
Edited by mamgaeater at 21:14, 06 Jan 2011.

IS it true that the free heroes from lol rotate every week?

Edit: you talking about CAPS LOCK LEORIC? that was indeed an awesome guide, Balling out of control.
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Azagal
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posted January 06, 2011 09:12 PM

Quite true indeed. Every Monday I think. But really "buying" a new hero is no big deal. You can farm the "influence points" easily enough in a few days as you get ~150 ip per normal game (+150 extra for the first win of the day). The most exspensive ones cost 6300 and I think there are only 5 of them or so. The rest are quite easily afforable.
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Baklava
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posted January 06, 2011 09:25 PM

Some of arguably the best heroes in the game cost between 450 and 1300, so yeah. It's really no biggie.

And a new hero usually comes out every two weeks or so.
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Azagal
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posted January 06, 2011 09:30 PM

Ashe, Tryndamere, Amumu aaaand? Don't say Yi -_-.
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DagothGares
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posted January 06, 2011 09:32 PM

Sivir kicks ass!
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Baklava
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posted January 06, 2011 09:49 PM

Ryze? Veigar? Poppy? All pretty great at what they do, probably better than most, and for a miniscule cost.
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SwampLord
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posted January 06, 2011 09:54 PM

Nobody beats Alleria in terms of sheer fun to play for me. Her and Destroyer not getting ported was one of the main reasons I gave up on HoN.

I did like that they made Frostbite actually ministun in HoN, though; the skill sucks ass in DotA still unfortunately.
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veco
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posted January 07, 2011 04:05 AM

Speaking of great champions - I was amazed to see Gragas for only 3k points
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del_diablo
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posted January 07, 2011 04:56 AM

I don't like DotA as a AoS, it lacks proper siege.
Last time I heard LoL of HoN never fixed that.... so yeah
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