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Thread: US Presidential Race 2012 This thread is 59 pages long: 1 10 20 30 40 ... 43 44 45 46 47 ... 50 59 · «PREV / NEXT»
gnomes2169
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posted September 27, 2012 06:07 PM

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He certainly couldn't do any worse.

That's just tempting fate right there. Need I make a list of things he could do worse, or is the point moot?
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Zenofex
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posted September 27, 2012 06:20 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 18:22, 27 Sep 2012.

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As to your sources, Zenofex, that tells me nothing about Romney's intentions.  It tells me he believes Iran is a threat and that he wouldn't fault Israel for preemptively striking Israel.  It says nothing about his intent to start a war.
So I guess he needs to say in straight-forward manner "we'll start bombing Iran shortly after the beginning of my presidency" to be clear enough? It's pretty naive to think that a politician - except a very dumb one - will say something so precise. His words can hardly be interpreted as a peace message or even dedication to the current US policy to hold and where possible tighten the pressure on Iran without starting an open military campaign against it - as I read it the guy will just allow Israel to start its "pre-emptive" strikes and then aid it as an ally. Or maybe the US fleet next to the Iran shores will just sit tight during the whole thing and will eat the taxpayers money which everybody seems to be very concerned about but not everybody seems to care how they are spent?

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posted September 27, 2012 06:38 PM
Edited by Corribus at 18:41, 27 Sep 2012.

@Fauch
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I was wondering why they chose to talk about median income or household, and not about average?

Probably because income is a highly assymetric distribution, where outliers are likely to greatly affect the mean.  Median in this situation is easier to understand.

EDIT: Maybe this will help.  You know, if I ever become the Secretary of Education, I'm going to push to pass a law that mandates statistics becomes a required course in the public school curriculem.

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posted September 27, 2012 07:22 PM

I know the difference between median and mean (except I didn't know that the correct english word was "mean")

what I was thinking is that a decrease of the median doesn't necessarily mean a decrease of the mean.

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Minion
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posted September 27, 2012 08:13 PM

8% drop in income is huge.. is it because of increased unemployment or what are major reasons for that?
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Seraphim
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posted September 27, 2012 09:41 PM
Edited by Seraphim at 21:46, 27 Sep 2012.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/c45.0.403.403/p403x403/408369_10151079614066312_281950940_n.jpg

Besides, it fits american presidents pefectly. The all have passive agressive behaviour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2%80%93aggressive_behavior#Signs_and_symptoms

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Tsar-Ivor
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posted September 28, 2012 09:43 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 09:49, 28 Sep 2012.

I just came across this S. Jackson doing a vote for Romney ad.

Click 'Ere

The Ad really sold it as obama being nothing more than a deterrent for a bogeyman. Casting crap at your opponents sheds bad light on you, not your opponent.
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posted September 28, 2012 10:42 AM

Throwing in numbers is one thing, but explaining where they come from is another.

What did Obama do (or failed to do), so the debt rose at that height?
- Is he guilty of the outcome of the world wide financial crises?

What did Obama do (or failed to do) so the unemployment rate is 8% for that time now?
- Isn't this more a problem of all the companies out there? Let's look back what Crysler did for example...and what Obama did to help here...

What means "Weak foreign policy"? Not starting a war every 3 years?
- As far as I know, "he" was the one bringing down Osama bin Laden. Someone else tried that for 6 or 7 years....just for an example

How many things running bad currently because of things/ ideas getting blocked by opposition in the senat?
- We may not get all the facts here in Europe, but we read and hear something every now and then, and it seemed there were a handfull of things Obama wanted to do and did get blocked....
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GunFred
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posted September 29, 2012 05:03 PM

Is the election already over?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6fUgISSkq8&feature=relmfu

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Minion
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posted September 29, 2012 05:53 PM

Celebrate good Obama, CMON!

Obamaaaa
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gnomes2169
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posted September 29, 2012 06:00 PM

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Click 'Ere

This ad was not supported by Obama... but it was so very amusing.

Reminds me of this:



Maybe that belongs in the pokemon thread.
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GunFred
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posted September 29, 2012 06:03 PM

HAHAHA! I laughed out loud on Gnomes post.

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Seraphim
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posted September 29, 2012 06:43 PM
Edited by Seraphim at 19:42, 29 Sep 2012.

Patriot Game - OBAMA VS ROMNEY VIDEO GAME


Romney V. Obama!
Romney Irrational Jesus Was a Jew! Obama is Muslim? Bombing Iran...- Orange County Speaks!
Gay Marriage- Obama Comes Out for Love. Do You?

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Elodin
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posted September 29, 2012 11:43 PM
Edited by Elodin at 23:43, 29 Sep 2012.

Even the liberal stronghold of CNN admits Obama lied to the American people. The attacks on the US embassies have been terrorist attacks, and linked to Al'Qaeda, and the US knew it to be so within 24 hours of the attack.  

Romney should call Obama out on the lies in the first scheduled presidential debate. And maybe also ask him why "slander of Islam's prophet" is unacceptable.

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The Daily Beast reported Wednesday that the Obama administration knew that al Qaeda linked operatives were behind the attack in Libya. The report continued to say the administration had the information within 24 hours of the brutal attack in which 4 Americans were killed, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

If the U.S. knew within 24 hours that al Qaeda affiliates were to blame, then why are we just hearing about it, two weeks after the attacks? It has been 15 days since the Libyan consulate attack and all we have are conflicting reports.

The president of Libya, Mohammed Magaried has come out and blamed al Qaeda, while President Obama has been reluctant to call the attack a "terrorist attack."

The question that remains is should the U.S. have known the attack against the Libya consulate was coming?



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Zenofex
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posted September 30, 2012 08:02 AM

Man, your more inconsistent than a woman. In one thread all religions have to be respected, religious freedom and stuff, in another you want to know why Obama said that the Islamic Prophet shouldn't be insulted. If you lack cohesion in Texas, import some.

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gnomes2169
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posted September 30, 2012 08:40 AM

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If you lack cohesion in Texas, import some.

It's the second smallest part of the state budget, larger only than their private school spending. Both are unfortunately in short supply and in dire need of updating...
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xerox
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posted September 30, 2012 09:52 AM

Texas is pretty big and could become a haven for migrants.

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Elodin
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posted September 30, 2012 03:38 PM
Edited by Elodin at 15:40, 30 Sep 2012.

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Man, your more inconsistent than a woman. In one thread all religions have to be respected, religious freedom and stuff, in another you want to know why Obama said that the Islamic Prophet shouldn't be insulted. If you lack cohesion in Texas, import some.



It is completely false to say I have been inconsistent in my stance on free speech. Unlike some people I believe in freedom of speech and am always on the side of free speech. I've never said anything that indicates anyone should not be allowed to criticize whatever religion, politics, or ideology that he wishes to criticize.

Everyone has the right to freely believe what they wish and express their opinions about what others believe. Of course I know many liberals disagree with this and call speech that expresses opposition to liberal ideas "hate speech" and want it to be illegal. Banning the expression of thoughts is extraordinarily dangerous. Without free speech you have no democracy, and I have stated such many times.

I respect everyone's right to believe what they want. That does not mean that I have to respect their beliefs or say that their beliefs are just as logical or true as my own beliefs. Respecting the right of others to hold different beliefs is called tolerance. Claiming all beliefs are equally true is idiocy.

In a democracy it must be allowed to criticize Republicans, Democrats, Romney, Obama, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Scientology, atheism, and all other ideas. Free speech is indispensable for the discovery and communication of truth.

There has been a movement in the UN for several years to make it illegal to criticize Islam and that is the way some European nations are trending. It seems Obama is coming close to taking up that battle cry. Even the ultra-liberal Huffy Puffy post has written on the movement to make criticism of Islam illegal on an international level by the UN.

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Professor Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, the eminent Turkish Secretary General of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) was recently welcomed in Europe, the U.S. and Australia.

However, this organization has an agenda to criminalize criticism of Islam, which threatens to strangle dissent and reform.

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Since 1999, resolutions on defamation of religions have been introduced repeatedly on behalf of the OIC in the UN Human Rights Council, and from 2005, in the UN General Assembly. These were aimed at making criticism of Islam an international crime. Limitations on freedom of speech were already manifest in 1990, when the OIC adopted the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam, which declared, in Article 22, that everyone had the right to free speech as long as it was not contrary to sharia (Islamic law).

The European Centre for Law and Justice and Women Living Under Muslim Laws have asserted that defamation of religion is an invalid concept according to international standards that protect individuals rather than religions and beliefs.

The concept is also contrary to Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that states: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression."

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Pressure to criminalize criticism of Islam was observed in the U.K., with attempts, particularly by the Muslim Council of Britain, to include a clause on Incitement to Religious Hatred in the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act, 2001, and again in the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act, 2005. Both were dropped after opposition in the House of Lords. The law would have made criticism or jokes about Islam illegal. The government reintroduced the clause as the Racial and Religious Hatred Act, 2005. This was amended in the Lords, opposed by the government in the Commons, but in January 2006, the amended clause was passed by one vote.

Several European countries, including France, Germany, Austria, Italy, Sweden and the Netherlands, have implemented laws to prosecute people for "vilifying" Islam. In a recent case, Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, an Austrian activist, presented three lectures considered critical of Islam and was convicted of "denigrating religious symbols of a recognized religious group."


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xerox
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posted September 30, 2012 06:50 PM

Acknowledgning that a few muslim extremists don't represent all of Islam does not equal prohibting criticsm of Islam.

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Elodin
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posted October 03, 2012 06:04 PM

The scandal over the embassy attacks is growing. We now know that not only did the administration give false information to the American public but that they repeatedly turned down requests by the embassy in Libya for more security.

Clicky

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"There are clear signs that (there were) security concerns in Libya and other embassies around the world, and what they were doing is diminishing security in the name of normalizing relations," Chaffetz told Fox News.

Issa and Chaffetz detailed several attacks in Benghazi in the lead-up to the strike that they suggested should have been warning signs.

Further, they claimed sources told them that diplomats made "repeated requests" for additional security but were denied.

New signs also were emerging this week that officials were receiving guidance that the attack was coordinated in the immediate aftermath of the strike despite public comments to the contrary.

The New York Times, which first reported that the U.S. was tracking suspects, reported that, according to one official, spy agencies were intercepting communications from militant Ansar al-Shariah fighters boasting to someone with an Al Qaeda affiliate.

Reuters also reported that the Obama administration had "about a dozen" intelligence reports within hours of the attack suggesting Al Qaeda-tied militants were involved.

Fox News reported last week that intelligence officials were picking up that it was a terror strike within 24 hours.

Still, top administration officials in the week after the attack insisted it was a "spontaneous" reaction to protests over an anti-Islam film. That film was driving demonstrations across the Middle East and North Africa, but lawmakers and others were saying from the start that Libya was a different situation despite the initial claims of the Obama administration.

Letters obtained exclusively by Fox News also appear to show the State Department refused to get involved when the company tasked with protecting the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, raised security concerns.

The letters pertained to a dispute between Blue Mountain Libya, the security license holder in Libya, and its operations partner Blue Mountain UK, which trained and provided the local guards.

A source with knowledge of two State Department meetings -- one in June and a second in July -- told Fox News that Blue Mountain Libya felt the security provided by the UK partner was "substandard and the situation was unworkable."

But according to the source, when the Libyans tried to bring in a third party -- an American contractor -- to improve security, a State Department contract officer declined to get involved.



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