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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: *** Heroes Kingdoms Season 2 Discussion ***
Thread: *** Heroes Kingdoms Season 2 Discussion *** This thread is 13 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 · «PREV / NEXT»
Thoman
Thoman

Tavern Dweller
posted February 22, 2011 09:09 PM
Edited by vesuvius at 00:24, 23 Feb 2011.

Joining Season 2

Greetings!
I'd like to join for Season 2.  I am used to Inferno  - Necro  with 682 points to use.

Vesuvius -- Thoman: you've been added

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted February 22, 2011 09:41 PM
Edited by yasmiel at 21:42, 22 Feb 2011.

Regarding radiant shield:

going from level 5 to level 6 costs 55 legacy points and yields +2% attack... which in game means... 1-2 attack points total. rather small benefit for 55 legacy points.

If one goes for shield i would recommend avoiding stopping at level 6.

Regarding Recruitment:

From what i see in my DL2 server, and in some threads about it, it seems it only awards Tier 2 units. (I'm only gaining gargoyles)

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LordMichal
LordMichal


Known Hero
posted February 22, 2011 11:09 PM
Edited by vesuvius at 00:24, 23 Feb 2011.

Quote:
Greetings!
I'd like to join for Season 2.  I am used to Inferno  - Necro  with 682 points to use.


682 points? From which Universe you are?

Vesuvius -- I think its from multiple servers, even though he can only pick one, so it would be less than 600.

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted February 23, 2011 12:23 AM

Also -- what's the preference here:

Do you prefer Talented Hero, or Tougher Hero?
Of course, that is if you can pick the main hero you like to start, otherwise these abilities aren't as important.
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LordMichal
LordMichal


Known Hero
posted February 23, 2011 01:21 AM
Edited by vesuvius at 01:52, 23 Feb 2011.

Quote:
Also -- what's the preference here:

Do you prefer Talented Hero, or Tougher Hero?
Of course, that is if you can pick the main hero you like to start, otherwise these abilities aren't as important.


Talented hero, cause CL is better than tougher hero and attack(or D and M) is not so important at the start. Thats my opinion.

Ves - I visited TOH chatroom few times, but always alone there, maybe I do something wrongly? (I click on login than I´m in chat lobby and alone)

Vesuvius -- the chatroom will be empty right now -- I mean that we will use the chatroom on the day the next s2 server starts up to coordinate live.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted February 23, 2011 10:05 AM
Edited by yasmiel at 10:17, 23 Feb 2011.

Tougher hero is free bonus at endgame, but suffers from hampering early game. Again it boils down to preference as many of legacy stuff does.

Few tidbits that people forget though.

Skill points from talented hero save time! (using up skill points at level 1 doesn't cost 3 hours. If you maximize it by using all your 1 point skills (4 attack ones and 2 spell ones for example) you gain up to 24 free hours (this is for level 4 - 8 skill points) of your main hero's playtime in early game.

As game progresses that 24 hour advantage lowers and diminishes, but if one is often at his computer and uses his main hero time to the fullest, this is huge bonus.

Then again if one is not available to use that extra time anyway, and plays slow and safe, stats (attack mostly) will eventually turn out to be good bonus while skills might be wasted near the end because of lack of useful ones.

If one uses Haven or Sylvan, I'd say talented hero wins hands down, with all points used on getting level 3 enlister as soon as possible.

SO in the end it's up to player to decide, but I would recommend going completely with endgame build or completely with rush build.

For 60/0/60 starting hero - Something like Talented+Wealth combo or Tougher+Pop.Contrib combo. Mixing might not be as efficient.

Talented+pop contrib might work best for sylvan/haven, thx doom for pointing it out.

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Doombolt
Doombolt


Adventuring Hero
posted February 23, 2011 10:09 AM

Quote:
Tougher hero is free bonus at endgame, but suffers from hampering early game. Again it boils down to preference as many of legacy stuff does.

Few tidbits that people forget though.

Skill points from talented hero save time! (using up skill points at level 1 doesn't cost 3 hours. If you maximize it by using all your 1 point skills (4 attack ones and 2 spell ones for example) you gain up to 24 free hours (this is for level 4 - 8 skill points) of your main hero's playtime in early game.

As game progresses that 24 hour advantage lowers and diminishes, but if one is often at his computer and uses his main hero time to the fullest, this is huge bonus.

Then again if one is not available to use that extra time anyway, and plays slow and safe, stats (attack mostly) will eventually turn out to be good bonus while skills might be wasted near the end because of lack of useful ones.

If one uses Haven or Sylvan, I'd say talented hero wins hands down, with all points used on getting level 3 enlister as soon as possible.

SO in the end it's up to player to decide, but I would recommend going completely with endgame build or completely with rush build.

Something like Talented+Wealth combo or Tougher+Pop.Contrib combo. Mixing might not be as efficient.


Talented + Wealth combo makes no sense as Haven/Sylvan because your legacy hero will not level up quickly.  Personal Wealth really only belongs on a 60/0/60.
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted February 23, 2011 10:14 AM
Edited by yasmiel at 10:19, 23 Feb 2011.

True. Overlooked that combo. Thanks for capturing it

Anyhow, it would be useful if more players posted their opinions and/or experiences with different legacies. I think everyone here is open for suggestions (myself included), and with more opinions we can form a better overall conclusion.

50 eyes see better than 2!

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 23, 2011 10:40 AM

Academy/Fanatic Sorcerer

Talented hero 2    
Radian Shield 3
Personal Wealth 6
Barrage 8

Total used points 557 from 565.

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted February 23, 2011 04:35 PM

So can anyone guess when the next server arrives?  Used to be on monday morning -- but seems faster this time.  I could see it pop up as early as tomorrow...
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 23, 2011 04:45 PM

Quote:
So can anyone guess when the next server arrives?  Used to be on monday morning -- but seems faster this time.  I could see it pop up as early as tomorrow...


Hope will be sooner because i miss chat room
On 04-05.03.2011 i will be away so its important to start sooner!

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted February 23, 2011 05:02 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 17:04, 23 Feb 2011.

I will be Inferno starting with Disturbed Wizard ( 60-0-60 )

Can someone suggest the best starting legacy?

I have 565 points to spend.

I definately want the barrage Fire just not sure on level..

Pop Contribution sounds cool.. later in game when I have 10,000 Imps just sitting around.. that would be 10K gold per day? Or how much gold do you get per unit?

As for the rest I am not sure.. doom says the shield has been nerfed but others are taking it still so not sure what would be best.. so any advice is appreciated
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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 23, 2011 05:06 PM

Quote:
I will be Inferno starting with Disturbed Wizard ( 60-0-60 )

Can someone suggest the best starting legacy?

I have 565 points to spend.

I definately want the barrage Fire just not sure on level..

Pop Contribution sounds cool.. later in game when I have 10,000 Imps just sitting around.. that would be 10K gold per day? Or how much gold do you get per unit?

As for the rest I am not sure.. so any advice is appreciated


Use same like me and you gona be success

Talented hero 2    
Radian Shield 3
Personal Wealth 6
Barrage 8

Total used points 557 from 565.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted February 23, 2011 06:10 PM
Edited by yasmiel at 18:11, 23 Feb 2011.

I really hope it doesn't pop in next 2 days. I will be without internet and thus really hampered. Server will open Saturday afternoon and later I hope.

S1 servers opened with 4-5 days in between.
I guess it also depends on how full the current ones are. Anyone on Wight Night knows how many people are there?

MMHK worlds info
this helps in predicting the dates.

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LordMichal
LordMichal


Known Hero
posted February 23, 2011 06:11 PM

Quote:


Pop Contribution sounds cool.. later in game when I have 10,000 Imps just sitting around.. that would be 10K gold per day? Or how much gold do you get per unit?

As for the rest I am not sure.. doom says the shield has been nerfed but others are taking it still so not sure what would be best.. so any advice is appreciated


The shield is still cool. But what is important here - check jactari hero page(or artifact page) - there you can see how many and how good artifacts exist for your race For example your Inferno - good amulets, but their shields suck.

Pop. contri is based on power of your army, not count.

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vesuvius
vesuvius

Hero of Order
Honor Above all Else
posted February 23, 2011 06:14 PM

2300 players listed so far on wight night.
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted February 23, 2011 06:18 PM

DL2 started 15th,
Wight Night 19th.
We might indeed see next one open real soon.

For comparison in s1:
DL started on 9th
Ravaged lands on 13th,
Zombie Assembly on 18th.

Again, I hope it doesn't happen before saturday afternoon or it will hurt my start

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Elit
Elit


Famous Hero
posted February 23, 2011 06:31 PM

I think next 48h will be open. Better every one to check forum few times per day. Its important all to start ~12h after server is open.

Ves make sure you will send me invite asap to my e-mail. I cant let Jinxer to pass me from begin

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Jinxer
Jinxer


Legendary Hero
*****
posted February 23, 2011 06:52 PM
Edited by Jinxer at 18:55, 23 Feb 2011.

Woudnt Shield level 5 be better cause it give +2 Level 6's per day

I think this setup sounds better:

Barage Fire 7       = 241
Talented Hero 2     = 21
Radiant Shield 5    = 120
Personal Wealth 6   = 175

Total = 557 points outta 565


Basically.. I sacrificed 3% of Barage Fire Damage to gain + 2 level 6's instead of +1 only per day and I get 4% attack damage instead of 2% and 6% increase in exp instead of 3%.   Seems like alot of extra reward to sacrifice only 3% Barage Fire Damage. Plus with all those extra Pit Lords I will be doing more damage anyways, likely more than 3% just from having 200 PitLords in battle instead of 150 for example.

Feel free to point our my flaw in thinking here if I am missing something.
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Doombolt
Doombolt


Adventuring Hero
posted February 23, 2011 07:53 PM

Quote:
Woudnt Shield level 5 be better cause it give +2 Level 6's per day

I think this setup sounds better:

Barage Fire 7       = 241
Talented Hero 2     = 21
Radiant Shield 5    = 120
Personal Wealth 6   = 175

Total = 557 points outta 565


Basically.. I sacrificed 3% of Barage Fire Damage to gain + 2 level 6's instead of +1 only per day and I get 4% attack damage instead of 2% and 6% increase in exp instead of 3%.   Seems like alot of extra reward to sacrifice only 3% Barage Fire Damage. Plus with all those extra Pit Lords I will be doing more damage anyways, likely more than 3% just from having 200 PitLords in battle instead of 150 for example.

Feel free to point our my flaw in thinking here if I am missing something.


Your Pit Lord stack should only be limited by your mercury supply, because there are so many ways to boost population (Charismatic Leader is the most important one, but there are a whole bunch of artifacts that boost growth too).
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