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LizardWarrior
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posted February 02, 2011 02:37 PM |
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I've got a test for you Lizardwarrior. As i already experienced you usually create "make a faction with .." topics and all. And you really like to refer back to the older HoMM games and/or for your ideas.
1. : could you tell me some info about the old universe ? How, why it was created and so on. About the griffin kingoms. You know in our world the noble houses usually use their 'creators'/'founders" name and his/her descendents usually use his/her name aswell. But to turn back your opinion to the old MM world. Why the Ironfist family called them selfes Ironfist ?
Elves/dark elves : okay they are not in ? And ? Wait for the expansion(s)
Why does a necromancer should be megalomaniac and so. Every lawyer/engineer/judge/busdriver/etc is the same ? I do not think so.
And for again. FACE IT. Ubisoft wanted to create a new world for their brand. The old universe were connected to 3DO. 3DO is not Ubisoft and vice versa. Think about how DC/Marvel recreated their imagined universes. Its bad ? IMO not a little blood refresh is always good.
2. : Okay well then create an Elite rank creature for Haven withc could replace Radiant glory. Use the following conditions : the creatrue could not use the name and abilites of Haven/Castle creatures presented in any HOMM game.
3. : you are irritated about they changed something. However as i already told in other topics most of the "i want something new" people are those who will be a maniac attacker of a new idea. And I think this conclusion fits you will. ( you could take this sentence as a personal judgement if you would like to)
4 Same as point 2. Create 2 infernal creatures. Use the following conditions : the creatrue could not use the name and abilites of Inferno creatures presented in any HOMM game.
5 No comment.
6. No comment or read point 3.
7. read point 3
8. Creature a new resource name/type. Describe why the factions would use it.
9. Create a town theme. Use the following conditions : the creatrues could not use the name and abilites of any creatures presented in any HOMM game. Do not represent a dragon in the line-up. The towns main theme should connected to Shallasa.
10. Create a creature to replace centaurs. Use the following conditions : the creatrue could not use the name and abilites of Stronghold creatures presented in any HOMM game. Could not be an orc.
11. Create a Boss creature. Use the following conditions : the creatrue had to fit in Necropolis line, could not be any kind of animated/undead dragon (nor bone, nor skeleta, nor ghost, nor spectre) It could be an original creature or a boss verion of some of the necro line-up creature.
you gave me an idea,I will make my proposal of H6...
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Fauch
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posted February 02, 2011 04:23 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 16:25, 02 Feb 2011.
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looks like there are a lots of might oriented humanoids.
demented, lacerator, juggernaut, ghoul, mauler, jaguar warrior, dreamwalker, cyclop, praetorian, shark warrior... how are they going to make them all different from each other?
in another hand, they won't have much trouble with flying units, I guess there aren't even 10 of them. you are going to suffer when you fight a castle and only harpies can fly over the walls.
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infinitus
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posted February 02, 2011 04:29 PM |
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how are they going to make them all different from each other?
Easy, you take "Magic the gathering" card collection and do some copy past work 
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kodial79
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posted February 02, 2011 04:35 PM |
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looks like there are a lots of might oriented humanoids.
demented, lacerator, juggernaut, ghoul, mauler, jaguar warrior, dreamwalker, cyclop, praetorian, shark warrior... how are they going to make them all different from each other?
in another hand, they won't have much trouble with flying units, I guess there aren't even 10 of them. you are going to suffer when you fight a castle and only harpies can fly over the walls.
Did you feel that in H3 the Pikeman, Swordsman, Golem, Imp, Demon, Pit Fiend, Gnoll, Dwarf, Troglodyte, Minotaur, Goblin, Ogre, Skeleton and Zombie were similar to each other? They were all humanoid melee walkers with little or no special abilities each. At least now, we do get 3-4 special abilities per creature, which makes everyone of them essentially different.
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zazu1
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posted February 03, 2011 05:11 PM |
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U know honestly, although I may hate some of the artwork, and hate how many orci sh creaturs and strange looking demons things, the more gameplay shotsi see the more I wanna play it. Imo they all look pretty awesome on the battlefield.
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red_sparrow
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posted February 03, 2011 06:01 PM |
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well after a quick read through this thread (and other threads on the forum) i guess i'm the only one who actually likes the glories (so far)...now granted...the design does seem to be a bit much esp with the spring spirit & snow maiden...but i'm willing to overlook that
(it seems that, in general, there are alot more female units than the previous games)
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kodial79
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posted February 03, 2011 06:32 PM |
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well after a quick read through this thread (and other threads on the forum) i guess i'm the only one who actually likes the glories (so far)...now granted...the design does seem to be a bit much esp with the spring spirit & snow maiden...but i'm willing to overlook that
(it seems that, in general, there are alot more female units than the previous games)
I like Glories too. I would rather have Swordsmen instead but I think Glories aren't half bad. I will miss the Swordsmen though! I think they fit very well with the faction. And I don't think they're similar to spring spirit and snow maiden, at all. Besides, the art we got is low res and wip. It's unfair to criticize them as of yet.
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kodial79
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posted February 03, 2011 08:15 PM |
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THe most stupid wish from people on this forum:
Change the glory into swordman.
Swordman = bad because.
1: Yet another human.
2: Too much like Sentinel.
3: Too much like orc unit and its abilities would be nothing special.
I'm so glad you guys didn't create the game, I wouldn't want to see a swordman over a glory.
Sentinel is basically a Pikeman. Heroes I, II, III, and IV all had Pikemen + Swordsmen. Well done.
And they were not necesserilly a better line-up. I might like the Swordsman better but if I would replace any unit for the Glory, that would be him, indeed.
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LizardWarrior
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posted February 03, 2011 08:22 PM |
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THe most stupid wish from people on this forum:
Change the glory into swordman.
Swordman = bad because.
1: Yet another human.
2: Too much like Sentinel.
3: Too much like orc unit and its abilities would be nothing special.
I'm so glad you guys didn't create the game, I wouldn't want to see a swordman over a glory.
Crusader is one hundred better than glory.Because:
1.We aleardy have a light creature in haven,celestial
2.What is doing an elemental in haven?
3.I don't think elementals light/darkness based should be in game.What's light?It's not like water/earth/fire/air,light can be named helium+hydrogen(yeah that's sun) elemental,darkness is just absence of light
4.Glories don't fit in medieval line-up
5.And why name it glory?How about having creatures named anger,hapiness,sadness,humiliation,pride.Why not,if we have a creature named glory why not these?
We can have a more magic-oriented melle unit,let's say Templar,he could cast some low-level light magic spells.
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Danny
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posted February 03, 2011 08:39 PM |
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1.We aleardy have a light creature in haven,celestial
2.What is doing an elemental in haven?
3.I don't think elementals light/darkness based should be in game.What's light?It's not like water/earth/fire/air,light can be named helium+hydrogen(yeah that's sun) elemental,darkness is just absence of light
4.Glories don't fit in medieval line-up
All explained in the unit description:
In the Spirit Realm, Elrath's dominion is filled with myriads of Light Elementals. Some are elevated by the Dragon-God of Light to a higher status. Vessels of the will of Elrath, sent as envoys and advisors to his most faithful followers, Radiant Glories are shining creatures who can flare into brilliance and blind their enemies. The generals of the Holy Empire soon found a use for these beings of burning light.
Medieval can include magic.
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kodial79
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posted February 03, 2011 08:39 PM |
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Edited by kodial79 at 20:44, 03 Feb 2011.
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You really do make some kind of absurd points of argument, you know?
1. Find me one common thing between a Celestial and a Glory other than both being servants of Elrath.
2. It's been explained in its description, read it again.
3. Every Dragon God probably has some kind of an elemental to serve them. For Elrath, it's the Glory. Sure, Light is not a primal element, but a Light Elemental can be still considered and why not? Besides the four classical elements are not a factual but a philosophical system. And you know how philosophy is, right? Let me just tell you that the Japanese have five classical elements, Earth, Fire, Wind, Water and Void. Dare you say the Japanese are wrong?
4. Ofcourse Glories fit a Medieval line-up! Glory is what you would call the manifestation of God in the mortal world. And they were described as made of fire, light, or thunder. That's where Ubi got their Glory and putting it in Haven, a theocratic Empire, was the most fitting thing to do.
5. Glory is not an emotion like those you've mentioned. Here you are just being absurd.
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LizardWarrior
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posted February 03, 2011 09:44 PM |
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You really do make some kind of absurd points of argument, you know?
1. Find me one common thing between a Celestial and a Glory other than both being servants of Elrath.
2. It's been explained in its description, read it again.
3. Every Dragon God probably has some kind of an elemental to serve them. For Elrath, it's the Glory. Sure, Light is not a primal element, but a Light Elemental can be still considered and why not? Besides the four classical elements are not a factual but a philosophical system. And you know how philosophy is, right? Let me just tell you that the Japanese have five classical elements, Earth, Fire, Wind, Water and Void. Dare you say the Japanese are wrong?
4. Ofcourse Glories fit a Medieval line-up! Glory is what you would call the manifestation of God in the mortal world. And they were described as made of fire, light, or thunder. That's where Ubi got their Glory and putting it in Haven, a theocratic Empire, was the most fitting thing to do.
5. Glory is not an emotion like those you've mentioned. Here you are just being absurd.
1.You said:"manifestation of God in the mortal world"
2/3.I said I HATE Ashan why I would agree with it?Light Realm?Let's make chicken realm with chicken elementals,would you agree me?
4."manifestation of God in the mortal world"=Angel,again
5.Glory...so I can call a creature humiliation.Humilation is the opposite of glory,right?
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kodial79
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posted February 03, 2011 09:54 PM |
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Edited by kodial79 at 21:55, 03 Feb 2011.
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You really do make some kind of absurd points of argument, you know?
1. Find me one common thing between a Celestial and a Glory other than both being servants of Elrath.
2. It's been explained in its description, read it again.
3. Every Dragon God probably has some kind of an elemental to serve them. For Elrath, it's the Glory. Sure, Light is not a primal element, but a Light Elemental can be still considered and why not? Besides the four classical elements are not a factual but a philosophical system. And you know how philosophy is, right? Let me just tell you that the Japanese have five classical elements, Earth, Fire, Wind, Water and Void. Dare you say the Japanese are wrong?
4. Ofcourse Glories fit a Medieval line-up! Glory is what you would call the manifestation of God in the mortal world. And they were described as made of fire, light, or thunder. That's where Ubi got their Glory and putting it in Haven, a theocratic Empire, was the most fitting thing to do.
5. Glory is not an emotion like those you've mentioned. Here you are just being absurd.
1.You said:"manifestation of God in the mortal world"
2/3.I said I HATE Ashan why I would agree with it?Light Realm?Let's make chicken realm with chicken elementals,would you agree me?
4."manifestation of God in the mortal world"=Angel,again
5.Glory...so I can call a creature humiliation.Humilation is the opposite of glory,right?
Celestial as Angels are not the Manifestation of God but the Messengers of God. These are two different things. Angels were completely different beings while Glory was the God himself, that's in actual religion. In the game Glories are different beings but Ubi got inspired from that.
If you hate Ashan that much, then this game is not for you. You know that Ashan is here to stay, right?
And probably there is something equivalent of humiliation, a direct opposite of Glory, among the 1000s of different species of demons that exist in Sheogh. 
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Avirosb
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posted February 03, 2011 10:02 PM |
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I do agree that the faction lineups are considerably less badass than those of previous games.
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xerox
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posted February 03, 2011 10:09 PM |
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I won't judge the Glory untill I see it in-game. But its faaaar better than just another human creature... -.- '
I think the H6 Haven line-up looks fantastic and the only thing I would change is how the Sun Crusader looks like. The actual Crusader is waaaay to big and it just looks clumpsy and stupid to me.
Inferno has the worst line-up with its stupid Maniacs, two-headed Cerberuses which has never been an interesting creature anyway (yay we have a dog or wolf, make it a bit demonic and add some heads = really cool creature... -.-).
Its still not bad though and all line-ups are improvements over H5.
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xerox
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posted February 03, 2011 10:20 PM |
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Oh, I forgot about the Sister.
I think its stupid aswell.
1. It looks like it came straight out of Top Model.
2. Which means it looks like it is going to die in one hit.
3. The Monks/Zealot in the previous games looked much cooler and more suited for battle than she is.
4. The name is really, really boring. Sister... -.-
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Nocturnal
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posted February 03, 2011 10:24 PM |
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1- When they change "anything" from the original Heroes concept, people get "you get further away from the roots in everygame. I miss Heroes 3, bla bla..." When they don't change certain things, here is what they get.
2- I don't care about this creatures really. But yeah, they could find something better.
3- This is not a mythology class nor a documentary. This is a game, and they can change these things. I see absolutely no problem in this.
4- I also thing these 2 ( not maniac) look alike.
5- #4 Can you show me the ormor of "Shadow matriarchs" or "sky daughters" or "maulers"... I can go on.
6- Again the same answer for 3.
7- I like the Cyclops
8- 4 resources is a very good choice for me. I liked this from day one. sorry.
9- You most probably didnt also like H5 Fortress as they are all dwarves. But I loved that faction. And now the naga faction doesn't irritate me.
10-  This is the exreme point i disagree. Mother Nomtaru is my favourite creature from Heroes 6. She is my PC wallpaper and msn avatar since the artwork was out. She is the best designed creature I have seen in the Heroes universe. I cannot even imagine what is it you possibly don't like.
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Avirosb
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posted February 03, 2011 10:28 PM |
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10- This is the exreme point i disagree. Mother Nomtaru is my favourite creature from Heroes 6. She is my PC wallpaper and msn avatar since the artwork was out. She is the best designed creature I have seen in the Heroes universe. I cannot even imagine what is it you possibly don't like.
It looks incredibly silly?
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Nocturnal
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posted February 03, 2011 10:35 PM |
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10- This is the exreme point i disagree. Mother Nomtaru is my favourite creature from Heroes 6. She is my PC wallpaper and msn avatar since the artwork was out. She is the best designed creature I have seen in the Heroes universe. I cannot even imagine what is it you possibly don't like.
It looks incredibly silly?
Any two ideas cant get more contrary. Sorry. She is the exact opposite of silly for me.
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Avirosb
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posted February 03, 2011 10:39 PM |
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Any two ideas cant get more contrary. Sorry. She is the exact opposite of silly for me.
Come on. Her back is broken! And she shouldn't be able to support her own weight with those legs and that... thing on her head.
It is pretty much the opposite of a well-designed creature.
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