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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224]
Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224] [ This thread is 417 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 (122) 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 ]
Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 23, 2011 02:34 PM

understood...going on...

1. CHoose another subskill from the list above.

2. choose another subskill of Battle Lore freely or declare they are only 3
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posted May 23, 2011 03:59 PM

Weak Spot (personal name suggestion:Reveal Vice[vice=fault])
(your units deal much more damage to the chosen creature type/s)

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Jiriki9
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posted May 23, 2011 04:29 PM

sounds fitting

choose another subskill of Battle Lore freely or declare they are only 3
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posted May 23, 2011 05:07 PM

Declare they are only 3.

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posted May 23, 2011 05:11 PM

FOr wwar machines...are you fine with there being one basic subskill for each of the 3 important basic war machines (of course also applying to the respective specialized ones)=
Yes or No
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posted May 23, 2011 05:12 PM

Yes
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posted May 23, 2011 05:22 PM

Shall there also be a basic subskill for the ammo cart and it's variants?
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alcibiades
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posted May 23, 2011 05:38 PM

Yes.

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Jiriki9
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posted May 23, 2011 05:41 PM

so thats it for war machines

Now which shall be the next main skill?

Anti-Magic/Resistance
OR
Battle
OR
Diplomacy
OR
Estates
OR
Nobility
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posted May 23, 2011 05:46 PM


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Jiriki9
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posted May 23, 2011 06:17 PM

ok...which of these shall be a basic diplomacy sub-skill?

Negotiation (Reduces Capitulation Costs)
OR
Convincing (Additional to units joining you, a few enemy units will stay off the battle, and only return if the enemy wins)
OR
Respected/better name (Increases chance&number of creatures joining the heroe, if they are the same faction)
OR
Reputation (Reduces the costs of heroes of the hero's basic class for you [could also fit into nobility)
OR
Snitchers (In a siege, the gate may be open or sections of the wall damaged, etc. from the beginning of the battle)
OR
False Merchants (A bit from the income of your enemies is distributed to you each day - not much!)
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posted May 23, 2011 06:37 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 18:39, 23 May 2011.

Respected/better name (Good Repute? High Regard?)
(Increases chance&number of creatures joining the heroe, if they are the same faction)

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posted May 23, 2011 06:55 PM

Cascade

1. Choose another one from the list

2. Choose a subskill for diplomacy freely

3. Choose another subskill for diplomacy freely

4. Which shall be the next Skill for which we make the basic subskills?

Nobility
OR
Estates?
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posted May 23, 2011 07:03 PM

Negotiation (Reduces Capitulation Costs)

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posted May 24, 2011 03:11 AM

1. Choose a subskill for diplomacy freely

2. Choose another subskill for diplomacy freely

3. Which shall be the next Skill for which we make the basic subskills?

Nobility
OR
Estates?
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posted May 24, 2011 03:40 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 03:51, 24 May 2011.

Defamation - AM ability. All hostile heroes within the area of effect (all visible land or water surrounding a hero the hero who uses this ability) suffer from negative morale, which lasts one week. Like so:

Too powerful?

EDIT: Forgot to add that the ability lasts one week regardless if hostile heroes being affected. A hero walking in the AoE mid-week may suddenly become unpopular if s/he walk right into the AoE. Since it's the area and not the hostiles that are being targeted, it is possible for an enemy hero to just walk out of the zone. The borders of said zone is not clear to anyone but the player and their allies though.

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posted May 24, 2011 03:48 AM

With one week of effect, definitely too powerfull for a basic sub. You can decide to make it an advanced one, though, or nerve it on, maybe, 1-2 days of effect.
I like it very much, btw.
also, avi, changing the sub does not take you another answer

1. . Choose another subskill for diplomacy freely or decide there are only 3

2. Which shall be the next Skill for which we make the basic subskills?

Nobility
OR
EStates
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posted May 24, 2011 04:06 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 04:07, 24 May 2011.

Please read the post above yours and tell me if you think it still is overpowered.
I've made it so that the effect is be nullified when the enemy steps out of the zone.

I quite like the Snitch/Inside Job skill,
but I think it is a little too overpowered for a basic subskill. Maybe later?

Easy Money/Racketeering - If neutral creatures belonging to the same faction as the player's starting town defeats an enemy hero,
the player will gain some money (does not affect the enemy player's economy).

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posted May 24, 2011 04:21 AM

So the skill works in an area and whoever enters this area (beside you and your allies9 looses morale? interesting...strange but interesting

for this easy money...will that not be a bit rare that neutrals defeat an enemy hero AND are of your faction? The AI would have to be quite bad for that...

1. Which shall be the next Skill for which we make the basic subskills?

Nobility
OR
EStates
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posted May 24, 2011 04:30 AM

Quote:
For this easy money...will that not be a bit rare that neutrals defeat an enemy hero AND are of your faction? The AI would have to be quite bad for that...
Which is why it is a basic subskill
Sometimes people miscalculate. I know I do.

Estates, and please tell me if you think I've answered enough already.

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