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Heroes Community > Tournament of Honor > Thread: Caesars Finals to be or not to be ?
Thread: Caesars Finals to be or not to be ? This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
natalka
natalka


Supreme Hero
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posted March 31, 2011 12:40 PM

That`s why make a poll, there are 7 emperors so it will be certain what is the mood in the camp. Let`s decide it right now and see how many vengeful bloodthirsty dogs are there.

About Havez - I had secondary Nur - so double time for playing and also I made a big chain across two lands to get army on day 1 week 2. Did you make such chain? So I had to think for a little bit and still my longest turn was 30-35 mins.

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2011 12:47 PM

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Exactly!

I prefer respect compared to disrespect.
I respect my opponent and his preferences, so will play 50% of games on map he like. Also i expect same respect for choice i made for other 50% of games...

By the way this system is used in games Natalka-Firedragon. One game on MM, one game on HG ...
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 12:50 PM

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That`s why make a poll, there are 7 emperors so it will be certain what is the mood in the camp. Let`s decide it right now and see how many vengeful bloodthirsty dogs are there.

Natalie we don't need poll, scandals, dramas ... We need problems solved, great Caesar show and happy spectators ...
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natalka
natalka


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posted March 31, 2011 12:59 PM

Yes but all emperors should be familiar with a pool of maps because everbody is good at one map more than the other and there will always be drama. The system we use with Firedragon won`t work because the player who chooses map first will have more games on it!

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted March 31, 2011 01:09 PM

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Quote:
Exactly!

I prefer respect compared to disrespect.

You're looking at it wrong. If they cannot pick a map and keep delaying ad infinitum they are the ones disrespecting the rest of the emperors and Ves.
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 01:37 PM
Edited by infinitus at 14:10, 31 Mar 2011.

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The system we use with Firedragon won`t work because the player who chooses map first will have more games on it!

Skill will win not one more game on home ground. Natalka you can't win vs me on RMG, or vs Firedragon on HG ? I sure you can ...

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You're looking at it wrong.

No, you look wrong, i look right

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If they cannot pick a map and keep delaying ad infinitum they are the ones disrespecting the rest of the emperors and Ves.

Yes, current system not working, or working bad and evil ...
All we have to do is to respect opponent and his choice, no delay or something, you play 50% of games on opponent ground ...

Edit: Elvin can you unlock now Natalka vs Firedragon topic  ? They play now and maybe have something to show to spectators ...  
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natalka
natalka


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posted March 31, 2011 02:10 PM

Infinitus, you are trying to make rules work in your favour.
Who gets to choose homeground first will have more games on the homeground and imagine if players are of equal strength and trade wins. In the end the player who chooses first will win the series.
On the other hand my proposition is more mature and adequate to such tournament. Emperors should know 8-10 (tournament) maps. If you are worthy of Caesar you must be equally skilled on each of them and also we could add Elvin`s rule so that no map can be played twice.
This will add variety and eliminate the random luck factor when drawing your homeground.

Unfortunatelly, if we accept this rule ,Infinitus, will get a maximum of 1 game on RMG and that`s what he doesn`t want

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Elvin
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posted March 31, 2011 02:15 PM

Infinitus seriously.. If nat or firedragon want to post their games they can simply ask me. What business of yours is it to bring to light people's games whether they want to share them or not?
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 02:19 PM
Edited by infinitus at 14:20, 31 Mar 2011.

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Who gets to choose homeground first will have more games on the homeground and imagine if players are of equal strength and trade wins.

Were do you seen two equal power players ? Also arts, luck decide too... Not really chess game ...

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Emperors should know 8-10 (tournament) maps.

Excuse me but some custom maps look like some seek man fantasies, no wish to be skillful in this ...

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Unfortunatelly, if we accept this rule ,Infinitus, will get a maximum of 1 game on RMG and that`s what he doesn`t want

No in this case i will get maximum of 0 games on RMG cos i will not participate in Caesar ...
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natalka
natalka


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posted March 31, 2011 02:30 PM

There is one big flaw in RMG - guards are too easy after certain point. Where is the emperor`s power creeping on these maps. I will tell you - there isn`t.

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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 02:36 PM
Edited by infinitus at 14:36, 31 Mar 2011.

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There is one big flaw in RMG - guards are too easy after certain point.

At this point secondary Wyngaal level 15 of DrOwnage coming and believe me it's not easy to creep him 1 hour creep fight is boring, player vs player action is the real joy
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Elvin
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posted March 31, 2011 02:40 PM

An emperor is supposed to try everything and be able to respond to any challenge. Refusing just because you only play RMG is selfish and only suits your interest - zero compromise with the other players. After all it needs not be a map your opponent has played 50 times..

Also.. you're never going to admit it but RMG is not balanced. It just isn't, it is RANDOM.
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natalka
natalka


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posted March 31, 2011 02:49 PM

Infinitus, ofc it is real joy but after so many games you still ask arround what skills to pick - and they are the key to winning vs human opponents besides arena practice. I think about those things during my turns ,not asking in forum, and spend time evaluating and deciding. That`s why my first turns are longer than usual. Why even am I bothering to explain what I am doing..I bet you make a plan for the next turn for your main only. Try making a plan for every hero and for 2 turns ahead and see how longer it will take to finish the turn. Enough tutoring from me, the rest is from Elvin.

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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 02:51 PM

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An emperor is supposed to try everything and be able to respond to any challenge.

Yes i tried a lot of maps, look my TOH stats page.

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zero compromise with the other players.

50% compromise at least in case of method proposed

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After all it needs not be a map your opponent has played 50 times..

And why not ? How to know how many time player played a map on UBI, or with his wife ? Or only TOH statistic matter here ?
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infinitus
infinitus


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posted March 31, 2011 02:53 PM

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Enough tutoring from me, the rest is from Elvin.

Enough is enough, cya
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Jinxer
Jinxer


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posted March 31, 2011 02:57 PM

I wouldnt mind playing Random Maps.. BUT it is ONLY possible with Rules to balance it some.. As Elvin says Random maps are exactly what they say... Random. So unbalance is gonna happen.  So its best to try and limit the randomness to only the ground layout and try and balance the rest of game play as much as possible. And RULES are only way to do that.

So bottom line Infinitus you wont beable to have your cake and eat it. I doubt you get ANY participant to agree to play you on Random with NO rules and Hero Pick.

For example the first Rule I would add is NO Instant travel. If you want to break your area, then fight the guards.
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DrOwnage
DrOwnage


Adventuring Hero
posted March 31, 2011 04:06 PM
Edited by DrOwnage at 19:31, 31 Mar 2011.

I wont play Natalka ever again. I've given her so many chances and she just wasted my time with her disconnects, rantings and hour long turns.

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Infinitus , maybe it is time to write something good about me - for example that we had 0 dc last game


Yeah, she played Havez. I experienced this once too: 1 Game she played Havez: 0 disconnects, game after this game she played Dungeon: Day3 reload, Day3 "disconnect", Day3 "game crash", Day 6 "disconnect", week2 " game crash", "disconnect". Those who know the game, understand how such things happen.
I wont delve into all the crap ive seen from her, but its enough for me to state that i wont play her ever again. If we face each other and its counted as a win for her, so be it, but one should keep in mind that its a tournament of honor.
I trust every other emperor and wouldnt need most of those rules infinitus suggested, because i played all of them and had no bad experiences with any of them.
Grzi to buxyrs btw.

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Towerlord
Towerlord


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posted March 31, 2011 04:45 PM

I think holding Caesar Tournament this season is a sad joke... with less than 50 active players on ToH, the winner will be the Caesar of what empire ?

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted March 31, 2011 05:27 PM

Not any more than last year..
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natalka
natalka


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posted March 31, 2011 05:28 PM

Ok, now I only need to be paired against DrOwnage and I am already in the second round. What a nice feeling.

Infinitus, seriously speaking you have tried many maps before you tried RMG. Since then you are so addicted to it and u don`t play anything else in TOH.

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