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natalka
Supreme Hero
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posted April 03, 2011 10:19 AM |
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Ahaha Aculias, Firedragon is my biggest challange. I don`t think so considering he owes me 2 victories which he didn`t report but I don`t want to start another topic. Stay tuned for the report of my last game for TOH against Firedragon.
When you calculated your rating I couldn`t get a thing and you don`t receive 5 % for a positive rating.
Considering my rating 33 games were reported bad 33/141= 23 %.
I don`t care whether you will exclude me. Get a life people 
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Aculias
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
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posted April 03, 2011 11:02 AM |
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Haha you took that seriously.
Well i guess as much as i took your figure seriously LOL.
Oh & the moth problem figure as well 
With love of course 
I would not have it any other way.
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ohforfsake
Promising
Legendary Hero
Initiate
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posted April 03, 2011 11:46 AM |
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What is it, exactly you want to show Natalka? How many % win out of total games you've played with a 60% honour rating?
It should be quite simple to make, assuming the information you've provided is correct.
There's only one way to go up. That's a positive feedback, and you move 1% up.
One way to go down, which is a negative feedback, and you move 3% down.
Finally, the amount of games total, is dependent on the amount of neutral games, which doesn't move. As such this will be the only variable.
The amount of steps forward and backwards gets summed up, without any weighting, to produce a final result on 60%.
To get 60%, you must have:
1) Have 10 positive feedbacks outside of the ratio that will keep you on 50%
2) Otherwise a ratio that will keep your honour rating unchanged, i.e. 75%/25% Positive/Negative feedback, in the rest of your games.
This means the function, that gives the total percentage of positive feedback, compared to all your games will be:
P(z) = (10 + 0.75*(131-z))/141
For z in range 0 to 131
Clearly, the larger z, the lower percentage of your game have had a positive feedback. In total, the lowest possibility is 10 positive feedbacks and 131 neutral feedbacks, resulting in 7% positive feedbacks.
The highest possible positive feedback, on the other hand, is for z=0, which yields: 77% which is equivalent to 108,25 positive reports, 0 neutral reports and 32,75 negative reports.
Jinxer suggested 80% as some kind of new rule, which should apply retrospectively(?).
To get an honour rating of 80% in X amount of games, assuming 0 neutral rated games, you'll need 30 positive feedbacks and hence forth a ratio of 75/25 in positive feedback contra negative feedback.
Which yields a percentage as: (30 + 0.75*(X-30))/X = 75% for large X!!! In other words, the more games you play, the less percentage of positive feedback do you need to actually get an honour rating of 80%, even 100%. Because with a large enough amount of games, even 50 stand alone positive feedbacks will not be many!
In other words, it means that those of you, who've played a very large amount of games, might have less percentage positive feedback than Natalka, eventhough she's a lower honour rating!
However, I think it's not the smartest to look at the percentage of positive feedback! Because what is better, having 77% positive feedback, 0% neutral feedback and 23% negative feedback, or having 7% positive feedback, 93% neutral feedback and 0% negative feedback? Is neutral feedback a bad thing?
Looking at negative feedback only, it is:
A = Amount of games played
Z = Amount of neutral ratings
H = Honour score (assuming it's above 50%)
N(Z,H)=(0.25*(A-(H-50)-Z))/A
Again, as it can be seen, you can have a huge amount of negative feedbacks, as long as you keep the 75/25 ratio and otherwise have 50 extra positive feedbacks and still be at 100% honour rating!
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted April 03, 2011 08:16 PM |
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Explain plz. Infinitus:????
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Excuse me but some custom maps look like some seek man fantasies, no wish to be skillful in this ...
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 03, 2011 10:28 PM |
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Explain plz. Infinitus:????
I mean if you will take a look at TOH maps page, you will see lots of outdated, not TOTE ready maps ... Not all this maps are good for Caesar tournament.
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Nothing's impossible
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted April 04, 2011 12:03 AM |
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Infinitus you are such a woman, twisting your words. Even a 5 year old won`t buy this  . Please explain are Fiur`s maps sick freak fantasies?
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Clay_Man
Known Hero
TOH gamer
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posted April 04, 2011 12:11 AM |
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I guess you could select the top 10 most played map from the TOH profile of each candidate,then compare them with the others', which will probably yield you ~5-6 maps that everybody played enough times, so a compromise can be made.
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 04, 2011 06:23 AM |
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Please explain are Fiur`s maps sick freak fantasies?
No they are not. Fiur maps are favorite battleground for many players, inclusive you Natalka. Wait, but maybe you like to play sick freak fantasies ? 
You want example map i don't like... Genesis Dark Realm is kind of map i don't like. Genesis was good and turned into this ... But this is only my personal opinion. Words "seek man fantasies" was too strong, i got emotional in heat of discussion, better dark and creepy ... Bad place for elves to live
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 04, 2011 07:25 AM |
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LOL! Jinxer you elf hater 
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted April 04, 2011 07:54 AM |
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I guess you could select the top 10 most played map from the TOH profile of each candidate,then compare them with the others', which will probably yield you ~5-6 maps that everybody played enough times, so a compromise can be made.
Good Clay-Man
if U are an Emperor you should be able to play ANY maps (IMHO)
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"sick freak fantasy maps..."
well no comment needed.... (as far as I know this is an fantasy game so I guess I was spot on in my mapmaking...
(when it comes to RMG Ive played this the last 2 years.... (yes I still play.. )
and the issue with RMG is that the balance is broken no need to comment the layout... cause its far from "sick" lmao
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 04, 2011 08:00 AM |
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and the issue with RMG is that the balance is broken no need to comment the layout... cause its far from "sick" lmao
Let's not turn this discussion in custom maps vs rmg maps vs ubi maps... We have other topics for this ...
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Nothing's impossible
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted April 04, 2011 09:27 AM |
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and the issue with RMG is that the balance is broken no need to comment the layout... cause its far from "sick" lmao
Let's not turn this discussion in custom maps vs rmg maps vs ubi maps... We have other topics for this ...
well I'll agree infinitus but when ppl adress me I feel free to reply no matter what (off/on topic....)
and this time it was not hard to see who you adress
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted April 04, 2011 09:42 AM |
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and this time it was not hard to see who you adress
Was not addressed to you, or Jinxer or anyone else, just another argument in heat of discussion To prove this, let's play for fun on one of you maps
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Nothing's impossible
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted April 04, 2011 11:41 AM |
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Let's not turn this discussion in custom maps vs rmg maps vs ubi maps... We have other topics for this ...
But of course this topic is for kicking me out , let`s not divert from the main topic which Infinitus so easily managed to lead to.
So Jinxer`s darkrealm is sick freak fantasies. I know why - because Genesis is a bit easier and you can`t compete and creep as fast as on Genesis. What kind of emperor are you then?
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted April 04, 2011 03:17 PM |
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This topic should NOT be about kicking Natalka..
I think if we use Vex/Infinitus idea of adding a Cartographer to the map and a 3rd impartial player to watch each of Natalkas games, that would make sure she couldnt disconnect or replay turns after a disconnect and would also show that a 30 min turn isnt needed for fighting imps or even if her hero is sitting in middle of road etc.. And she also doesnt like to report her losses sometimes, so if 3rd party confirms she lost I can add the win/loss.. This way she can play, but will have a harder time cheating.
This solution makes everyone happy.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted April 04, 2011 04:33 PM |
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Which loss I didn`t report?? Tell me Jinxer, I am just curious.
A third party specator for my games only!!! I am impressed
And what if my hero sits in the middle of the road for 5 mins? Heroes think prior to fighting in battles or later when entering battles and realizing if thinking was done before the battle could be won. Sorry but my heroes stay in the middle of the road thinking. I think in this game the proverb three times measure , one time cut is in its best place. Just Jinxer because you can`t think of more than 2 ways to aproach a battle doesn`t mean others can`t too.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted April 04, 2011 04:59 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 16:59, 04 Apr 2011.
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I am kinda sticking up for you here Natalka, and you bite the hand that feeds you? And you never reported the loss to me on Darkrealm. You was horribly beat and had no chance since you even admitted you never expected me to have Dark with my Fortress team vs. your orcs. No way for you to defense agasint my Puppet. You had virtually no army left when you fled. SO avoiding finishing a game you cannot win, by running around hiding on map is yet again another aspect of your lack of honor. Losing to Jinxer is always a disgrace I know.. but if you had some honor and just reported your loss you woulda got an Honorable report and +3%. Instead your image took yet another blow just so you could hold on to 30pts.
And yes I suggested that 3rd party spectator just for you cause noone else seems to have trouble gaining the respect of there opponents, and all have 98% honor rating or higher.
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted April 04, 2011 05:22 PM |
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That game is not finished, dear. I have more chances than you can expect and now you are lying the whole community. There were times when I pushed you to continue it and you didn`t want to.
Hiding on map... we didn`t play after I fled the battle and yes I can defeat you even though you have puppet . 40 chieftains and 200 warmongers and 200 goblins 4 cyclops when I am gorshak(!!!) and you had like 200 mountain guards and 200 harpooners and 2 Magmas - I don`t know what are you dreaming. A positive mark gives 1 % not 3 % , or you forgot.
Moreover we started another game so this game is more than finished. We called it void I think.
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
*****
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posted April 04, 2011 05:33 PM |
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I am not gonna argue with you, you can twist the facts around all you want to try and make it sound better for you. Your honor rating speaks for its self. Noone believes you anymore.
I am sorry I tried to help you.. So now I will step back and watch you get burnt at the stake. You obviously deserve it.
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CTPAHHuK
Adventuring Hero
krs.83@mail.ru
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posted April 04, 2011 05:43 PM |
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I never play in h5. But even i heard about Natalka player. Natalka, scores are not most important part of games. Just have fun
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