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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted June 23, 2011 10:50 AM |
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This is getting frightening...
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted June 23, 2011 12:35 PM |
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I think the Town Window is here to stay....the one in the open beta will change (for example, animation of the town will include buildings as you build them), but it will still be a Town Window. It's a pity, but maybe with lots of gameplay we will come to realise why Ubihole made the Town a Window.....
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted June 23, 2011 12:56 PM |
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You unlock the wolves at level 50 by pressing the tab button and typing "nwcfriendshipismagic".
This will make a Black Dragon called 'Titan' appear randomly on the map.
Once the boss monster has been defeated, a treasure chest will appear,
revealing the location of another, hidden treasure chest, containing the fabled 3 Pink Wolves of Rainbow Land.
Losing the wolves will make you automatically lose the game.
The cheat cannot be typed twice or the game will crash.
Are they serious? That reminds me of Diablo II Secret Cow Level
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Brukernavn
Hero of Order
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posted June 23, 2011 03:58 PM |
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It's a pity, but maybe with lots of gameplay we will come to realise why Ubihole made the Town a Window.....
There is no reason! There is no great plan behind it. They just didn't think it was such a big deal, and already decided to go with windowed interfaces, so why not do the same with the town screen? Making it a fixed size also saves a little work for other, more important things, like plagiarizing celebrity pictures, making identical creature models and creating a story-driven, character-centered game.
That's the thought behind it.
And when people complain the strategy is as follows:
Stress the point that the screens are not finished at all cost and at every instance. Make sure people know we are working on them (as we have for the last nine months). When we post pictures of the screen make sure to zoom it in so that people forget how tiny it really is. And if we just wait long enough people will get used to using them, and come up with a reason for making them this way.
/venting ended.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted June 23, 2011 04:40 PM |
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I would actually be fine with it--
IF
It were actually a separate window that could be maximized. If, in Windows 7, you could drag the town window to the top of the screen and have it maximize itself, that would be fine with me. More than fine - it would be ideal. Because then I could drag it to my second monitor. 
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted June 23, 2011 04:42 PM |
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Identical character models? Sorry, but I really did NOT notice that in-game.
This however:
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And when people complain the strategy is as follows:
Stress the point that the screens are not finished at all cost and at every instance. Make sure people know we are working on them (as we have for the last nine months). When we post pictures of the screen make sure to zoom it in so that people forget how tiny it really is. And if we just wait long enough people will get used to using them, and come up with a reason for making them this way.
Quoted for truth!
I think its so sad that the chance that we will get proper town screens is like 0.1% 
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Over himself, over his own
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Brukernavn
Hero of Order
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posted June 23, 2011 04:48 PM |
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Identical character models? Sorry, but I really did NOT notice that in-game.
You've got the wolves, and potentially two more (water and light). But I was really referring to the wolves, since they were made after the delay.
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mike80d
Famous Hero
Map Maker
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posted June 23, 2011 10:06 PM |
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Quote:
You unlock the wolves at level 50 by pressing the tab button and typing "nwcfriendshipismagic".
This will make a Black Dragon called 'Titan' appear randomly on the map.
Once the boss monster has been defeated, a treasure chest will appear,
revealing the location of another, hidden treasure chest, containing the fabled 3 Pink Wolves of Rainbow Land.
Losing the wolves will make you automatically lose the game.
The cheat cannot be typed twice or the game will crash.
The first map I make for Heroes 6 will have this.. but possibly with a twist. *muahahaha* lol.
I've got to imagine that they're doing something with the Town Window. I'll be frightened if they aren't.
How much time do you think it'd take them to make a quality town window (non 3d like homm5) for this game? It seems fairly easy, especially compared to the art of each creature, terrain, and background. It's essentially just a picture that has another picture pasted onto it when triggered by building that building. Seems straight forward.
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Crayfish
Known Hero
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posted June 23, 2011 11:30 PM |
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Edited by Crayfish at 23:39, 23 Jun 2011.
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Not that long. Right now I'd be happy with the childish scrawl of a 3 year old if it was full screen.
Behold the glory.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted June 24, 2011 12:00 AM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 00:01, 24 Jun 2011.
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Well, it surely beats the Haven town window picture.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted June 24, 2011 12:04 AM |
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Dude...
I want to play as THAT faction.
Is there a mod somewhere?
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted June 24, 2011 12:44 AM |
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More vivid than all the hero portraits combined.
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted June 24, 2011 12:47 AM |
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This is getting frightening...
Getting? Getting?
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Coincidence? I think not!!!!
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whiterider
Known Hero
death walks with me
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posted June 24, 2011 11:06 AM |
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The most frightening thing about that picture is that is drawn by a 3 year old child...
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don_komandorr
Known Hero
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posted June 24, 2011 04:54 PM |
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You unlock the wolves at level 50 by pressing the tab button and typing "nwcfriendshipismagic".
Avirosb, Brohoof, dude!  I gonna try this in the beta!
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Oh Shi! It really works! Now my pre-beta became a full-functional game with 10 towns (H5 towns + nagas + forge) and beautiful town screens!
Seriously, I hoped that those ugly screens were a placeholder, but as time goes my believing in good is drained by a black hole. 
It's a matter of a one work week for a skilled 3d artist to make a townscreen in 2D for H6. I mean they already have castle, capitol, tavern and spec. buildings. Only thing is missing is dwellings. 7 buildings in total to be made. And for 2d picture they can be very simple to modeling because artist can not care about optimization and stuff. Then simply place all buildings in the right spots of the screen and TADA! Townscreen! At least in H4 quality (much better then H6)
Is it THAT hard to do?
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MrDragon
Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
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posted June 24, 2011 07:13 PM |
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Edited by MrDragon at 19:14, 24 Jun 2011.
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It's a matter of a one work week for a skilled 3d artist to make a townscreen in 2D for H6. I mean they already have castle, capitol, tavern and spec. buildings. Only thing is missing is dwellings. 7 buildings in total to be made. And for 2d picture they can be very simple to modeling because artist can not care about optimization and stuff. Then simply place all buildings in the right spots of the screen and TADA! Townscreen! At least in H4 quality (much better then H6)
Is it THAT hard to do?
Depending on how moddable the UI is, it should be very possible to replace the town art with at least a 2D image of a 3D rendering, possibly even multiple versions to produce an evolving town screen.
That along with scaling the town UI.
If they stick to their claim of making it as moddable if not more moddable then HoMMV, the community should be able to fix it.
And if we can get such a mod enough following, it might be possible to have them integrate it into the game standard, this has happened before with various games, ranging from Minecraft to WoW.
Popular mods have very real potential to become permanent additions to a game.
Of course that is the "second best case" scenario, which you should bear in mind is more often then not simply idle hope.
(best case scenario is obviously they completely overhaul and properly implement a real town screen for the final release or an early patch)
Edit: BTW any minecraft fanatics here besides myself?
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Mr.Dragon Factions in production.
Citadel: 7/7 creatures, 2/2 hero base classes. (complete, for now)
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yasmiel
Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
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posted June 25, 2011 11:38 AM |
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Edited by yasmiel at 11:38, 25 Jun 2011.
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We got Haven done then, just need 4 more.
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Crayfish
Known Hero
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posted June 25, 2011 11:12 PM |
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Haha, perfection 
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DarkLord
Supreme Hero
Fear me..
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posted June 25, 2011 11:39 PM |
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We got Haven done then, just need 4 more.
so i guess this it the final version!
indeed Dev's did a great job!
way better then previous installments!!!
ICREDIBLE!!! i was sooo wrong!!! praise the Town-Windows!!! 
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted June 29, 2011 07:10 PM |
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Signed. The current "town windows" are utterly appalling, and a slap in the face to one of the most visually engrossing trademark features of the Heroes franchise.
Heroes I had better-detailed, better-looking and FULLSCREEN town screens, for pete's sake. 
I mean, look at this. Blows HVI windows out of the water in terms of detail and actual representation of the town, and it's what, sixteen years old now? Seventeen?
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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