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batvanio
batvanio


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posted February 14, 2002 01:11 PM

Valentine vs. Wine

Boys and Girls,

Today is Valentine's Day. So feel greeted everybody and your girl/boyfriends too.

But in Bulgaria it is more important Day
It is "TRIFON ZAREZAN" - a very old fest.
For the foreign boys and girls I will explain what is this day great for:
Here we celebrate the cutting of the vineyards. How is this this celebrated? Guys you gonna like this - we go to the vineyard (bringing some wine with us) and then cut the vines to give more fruit (then drink from the wine), then cut another vine (then drink from the wine).... When we get home we drink wine all night long.

Isn't this the greatest fest?
You could celebrate this too
Cheers!

P.S. The Bulgarian girls are really pretty this day!
Hic - hic
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Milena
Milena


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posted February 14, 2002 01:37 PM

I don't like it

I don't like kissing and drinking wine... bah
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Lith-Maethor
Lith-Maethor


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posted February 14, 2002 01:41 PM

tsk tsk tsk....

I'll go with WINE... it's fun to run win apps under linux
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Perji
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posted February 14, 2002 01:44 PM

You guys have great ideas! If it were for me, I'd make everyday a wine festival!
I dunno, this Valentine's Day seems like crap for me. Me and my friends have a saying: Make sure you're lucky on Valentine's Day! You can be lucky only if you don't have a BF/GF. Because you won't spend you money and time uselessss...
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batvanio
batvanio


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posted February 14, 2002 01:51 PM

Quote:
I'll go with WINE... it's fun to run win apps under linux

Got that!

@Milena: What's wrong with the kissing?
And with a glass of wine?    

Maybe I should have done this as a Poll

But you may vote without results also:

Wine or Vilentine?
or what to do the evening of February 14?
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Milena
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posted February 14, 2002 02:19 PM

I will study, Batvanio,

dunno about you.

Wine has a bad smell and taste... once i got drunk with it and since then I don't want to EYE it.

As for kissing, kill me but I don't like kisses! A kiss on the cheek or lips is OK but a deep kiss I don't like.
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Lith-Maethor
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posted February 14, 2002 02:21 PM

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IwontcommentIwontcommentIwontcommentIwontcommentIwontcomment...
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Milena
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posted February 14, 2002 02:34 PM

Gee, it just

figures he likes kissing.--->
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batvanio
batvanio


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posted February 14, 2002 03:42 PM

Quote:
You guys have great ideas! If it were for me, I'd make everyday a wine festival!
I dunno, this Valentine's Day seems like crap for me. Me and my friends have a saying: Make sure you're lucky on Valentine's Day! You can be lucky only if you don't have a BF/GF. Because you won't spend you money and time uselessss...


Yeah, I prefer the Wine fest - getting a love card doesn't make me feel better. Actually it was fun when I was  14 years old, but it was long ago and the only thing that connects me to this age is Heroes, pardon - King's Bounty.

As for the wine - we here in Bulgaria have a spicy one.
It is called "Pelin" - there is such herb dont know the english name. Anyway this is Mixed Red&White Wine with many herbs and spices done in a special way.

For this evening I have reserved three homemade bottles. It is like an elexir and I will research & test it with my wife instead of sending Valentine's cards. I will come up with the results tommorow!  
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Wesley
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posted February 14, 2002 06:49 PM

Hmm

Drinking alcohol all day long A special day in the year?
Geez were do you live? Here in holland it's every day BEER/WINE/OTHER ALCOHOL STUFF day.. IT SUCKS!
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malkia
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posted February 14, 2002 09:07 PM

Yeah Happy Saint Trifon Zarezan to everyone - time to drink good vine... Chianti ?

Here's excerpt from a site I found:
http://www.culture-forum.com/En/Headings/Roots/BulgarianTraditionalVocals/spring.htm
explaining the fest:

Cheers BatVanio, Wyvern, Milena!
all my bulgarian buddys from here (we are only four right? i didn't miss anyone)

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TRIFON ZAREZAN (Winegrowers' Day)  

The coming of the new agricultural year was celebrated on Trifon Zarezan (February 1) - the Day of Winegrowers. This festival essentially expressed the love people bore for the land, and their wish to ward off with various magic practices the natural calamities endangering the grape harvest, and to invoke fertility in the coming autumn. All Trifon  Zarezan customs therefore centered on vineyards and wine.  
 


The mistress of the house got up long before sunrise to bake a fresh round loaf, decorated on top with different symbolical images and magic signs designed to ensure rich crops. She would also cook a chicken stuffed with rice, and fill up a buklitsa (a wooden wine bottle) with wine.
 

 

With the first pale rays of the sun, peasants dressed in their best came out of their houses carrying full buklitsas, and with lunchbags slung over their shoulders. Laughing and joking, the men set off together to the vineyards to perform various rites for fertility.  
Once there, each made for his own lot and stood before the most productive vine, where he crossed himself three times, facing the sun. Then, with slow steps, he would start the ritual pruning. This was always done with a special pruning knife called kosser.  It was the custom to cut off three stems and then splash some wine on the cuttings. If the sap came out, that was a sign that St Trifon had heard the prayer of the winegrower, and that come autumn there would be grapes. The stems were woven into a wreath which the vine-dresser put on his cap.  

After this ritual, the winegrowers gathered round a lavish feast, laid out with roast chicken, delicious pies and wine, to choose their "King of the Vineyards". The "King" was usually the best ' wine-grower, whose vineyards had yielded the largest crop in the past year and whose wine was generally accepted as the best. The King, also called Triton, was elected for one year: for the honor done him, it was the King's duty to give a feast to the entire village. Then, encouraged by him, all would start taking swigs from their buklitsas.  

Elated by the good wine and the festive mood, the peasants took their King and carried him off in their arms all the way to the village. In some regions the King would be lifted in a buggy that was pulled by the others.  

Reaching the village, the group would stop at every house to taste the wine of the master of the house and to give a benediction for health, happiness and well-being to the family. After making a complete round of the village, the men, led by the King, would repair to his home where the merrymaking would start. Young and old would come and sit at the festive board set up in the courtyard. A calf or a ram was sacrificed and then cooked as an offering to St Trifon, the patron saint of wine-growers.  

The merry singing, the spirited dancing and the free drinking continued till late in the night. Everyone had to drink wine on this day so that there be a good harvest in autumn.  

The specific Triton Zarezan customs are probably rooted in the ancient cult of the Thracian god Sabazius, also known in Greek mythology as Dionysus, the god of wine, revelry and vineyards. It was believed that wherever his foot had stepped, people learnt to cultivate vines and to make wine. The Dionysia were festivals in his honor, characterized by wild merrymaking. Trifon Zarezan probably comes as a Thracian heritage which, thanks to tradition, has been preserved to date as the Day of Winegrowers.  


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malkia
malkia


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posted February 14, 2002 09:13 PM

Just to explain why it's February 1 and for some other February 14

Because our Orthodox Calendar is a bit off because Orthodox church seems to be still using the Jualian calendar, which the other churches left out centuries ago by adopting the Gregorian. But our govermnet some time ago (century or more I dunno) adopted the Gregorian, but still church - or parts of it (it's kind of splitted our church) is still using the Julian... Thus the differnece February 1 -> February 14 - the 13 omitted days by Gregorian calendar.

So actually I'm not sure - but as comunistic country time ago, people stopped probably caring about Orthodox dates - and just used the fact that there is a tradition (older than Jesus Christ & Co.) which have to be kept safe....
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Aculias
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posted February 15, 2002 12:39 AM

Valintines is the worst holiday.
Hmmm wine drink till I drop but wine is to sour, I will stick with my usuals to get plastered lol.
Kisses hmmmm naa kind of nasty with someone elses blaaahhhhh.
But breath mint & maybe lol
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batvanio
batvanio


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posted February 15, 2002 08:10 AM

Wow malkia,

Where did you find all this info!
Cheers to you buddy!

Now you must find the "Pelin" receipt in English and
all the others could celebrate our way.

By the way last night the wine was very, very good.
But there is no more of it. So till the next 14 February then.
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Wyvern
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posted February 15, 2002 06:16 PM

Sorry, but I hate all kinds of alcohol... except boza. This is a very strange drink which is supposed to be soft but people say you can get drunk from it. There are rumours that there are 4% alcohol in it. By the way, I don't know whether boza is a Bulgarian drink. The name sounds Turkish and I suppose we have taken it from the Turks while they were here for only five centuries...
And now for another day. There is a person (I think no one knows who he is) called Michael Jackson, who suggests that there should be an International Day of the Child. There is a day for the mother, a day for the father... and there isn't a day for the child, says Mr. Jackson. Isn't that unfair?
But this is not so. In Bulgaria June 1st is the Day of the Child. I thought that it's the same all over the world. Am I wrong? If I am, it looks like Michael has taken his idea from Bulgaria's traditions! Very good!

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Celfious
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posted February 16, 2002 08:55 PM

I'd like to add..

I think snow's are good. Go to a few bar's, drink, and see the show's.. go to a new bar, get drunker, and say "YOU!!!" Night's to remember

EL Celfious

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Batvanio
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posted February 18, 2002 08:54 AM

@Wyvern: Yep, "boza" is a Turkish word, but the drink is Albanian!,it is made of barley? and has a brownish colour and is kind of sticky. It has a small quantity of alcohol but it gets bigger when it ferments, but on this point the drink is sour and undrinkable. The alcohol is because of the farina in the barley and the farina and the sugar are close chemically. Nevertheless here in Bulgaria we drink many "boza" along with the breakfast.

@Celfious: Hey I am married! So no strip-bars for me.
(My wife is a Homm3 fan and regulary reads HC posts, sorry)    

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insatiable
insatiable


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posted February 17, 2003 09:20 PM

hey!

im not bulgarian either!lets get married
btw,you look alot like melissa
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evitaaa_1
evitaaa_1

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posted February 18, 2003 01:37 AM

Hey Batvanio its such a great idea to show foreigners how we celebrate in Bulgaria ... oh and btw i love wine....kisses....and hugs as well
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Kuma
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posted February 18, 2003 11:29 AM

So I walk into the bar and I say: "tonight I want to kill myself on women and wine."
This girl walks up to me and starts kissing me.
I look at her and say: "Yeah, you're right, first some wine"


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