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posted May 25, 2011 04:27 PM |
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Justin Beiber = John Lennon = Elvis Presley = Richard Wagner = Wolfgang Mozart. They're all basically made of the same stuff and have the same intellectual brilliance and incredible talent for music. If anything, people like Beiber, Spears, and Gaga are actually a little higher standard than people like Mozart since they've had far more competition and have risen in spite of it.
Except that most modern pop "artists" don't write their own songs.
Wait, did you actually just compare Mozart to Justin Bieber?
Double wait, is this thread actually for real?
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posted May 25, 2011 04:28 PM |
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Justin Beiber = John Lennon = Elvis Presley = Richard Wagner = Wolfgang Mozart
Except that Bieber doesn't make his own music and is just a pretty boy that was fished straight out of youtube, while Mozart could write his own symphonies before he could read. 
Gaga is just madonna + manson, but she'll probably be remembered, mostly because of the violent counter reactions or nasty criticism she gets, while still being showered in rewards. (Though, I still hope she'll be forgotten or people will have a moment of "what were we thinking?" like they'll have with Dan Brown and Meyer in a couple of years (at least, if humanity has any chance of redeeming itself))
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posted May 25, 2011 04:28 PM |
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Listen, Blizzy, Bieber is fangirl bubblegum pop at BEST. AT BEST.
Lennon? He's somewhat overrated, but his wrote songs with a true MESSAGE, which have more personality in one chord than all Bieber's songs have COMBINED.
who else? Mozart? A slightly better comparison, because Mozarts music is light and somewhat shallow (but hey, Little Wolfie WAS a child after all), but that's where it ends. Unlike Beiber, Mozart's music was actually pleasant to listen to. Secundo, Mozart actually was talented. Another travesty on your part.
Wagner? *VOMIT* I won't even start on this one... but Wagner's genius was, and to this day still is unmatched by any other composer after him. He is imo the second best composer of classical music of all time... second after only Beethoven himself.
Blizz... just stop talking about present day music, right? You'll only continue to embarrass yourself.
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posted May 25, 2011 04:29 PM |
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Well alright, I'll go and make a few threads about my favourite artists. ELO, Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Judas Priest etc. I think you get the point that it'd be just stupid. Why can't you discuss this in the listening to thread in the VW? Why even have this thread? Was it actually even needed? And no, the forums aren't drowning in it at the moment but if this one is allowed I'll quickly go make hundreds of threads about my favourite artists and you'll see how ridiculous this is. I also bet if I was to make a Gaga bashing thread that it'd get sent to the VW very quickly. There's just so many threads you could have posted this into, why have this? That's my point, something which you're missing.
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posted May 25, 2011 04:32 PM |
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Well alright, I'll go and make a few threads about my favourite artists. ELO, Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Judas Priest etc. I think you get the point that it'd be just stupid.
Copycat. 
Just making threads to prove that they are pointless will not earn you QP's. Clearly this thread was merited, just look at all the quality discussion already going on here, thread has reached 3 pages in less than a day, and someone should award Blizzie a QP for his contribution. 
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posted May 25, 2011 04:36 PM |
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Yes... that totally makes a whole lot of sense.
Come, Will, let us depart from this wacky factory before the crazy spreads.
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posted May 25, 2011 04:40 PM |
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I think if you dig deeper you'll find that Bieber plays a surprisingly large role in the production of his art. Also, the references to how Mozart and others were producing masterpieces on a whim at a very young age are largely believed to be exaggerations from the court in order to boast about their latest toy. His mentors still played a substantial role in guiding some of his very early work, and similar accounts can be said for other Baroque and classical musicians. Alas I don't have that material handy and read about it in my textbook years back, but it's out there if you're curious. Not to say that they weren't great musicians, but I wouldn't put Mozart quite on the same level as Gaga, however I might put him on par with Beiber.
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posted May 25, 2011 04:49 PM |
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Listen, Blizzy, Bieber is fangirl bubblegum pop at its BEST. AT ITS VERY BEST.
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posted May 25, 2011 04:52 PM |
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Haha wow.
Your replies alone just tells me, you really dont understand the artists or who they really were at all Blizzard.
Especially if you you compare Elvis to Lennon HAHA.
Better yet Bieber to Lennon lol.
No no wait Bieber to Mozart LOL.
You would be surprised how many loved the music of Beethoven
People knew about him quick.
Even when he lost his hearing, he created some of the most beautiful music you would ever hear.
Comparing him or Mozart to Bieber is like comparing Attila the Hun to Michael Jackson!
Mozart created music very young, more popular then Beethoven at the time.
I mean he even played for royalty at a very young age.
I can really get deep on both their history, yea it was not perfect, but you make it like it was all bad.
Ok now lets compare Genghis Khan to Chaka Kahn LOL
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posted May 25, 2011 05:32 PM |
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I love her, first of all. I have her albums and will buy Born This Way asap.
But I am completely against that cross-genre comparisons you people made above. Music and cinema are the main elements in my life, PC games starting to become in these recent years. I have a very wide music taste and knowledge and that is why I find it quite bizarre to compare Mozart, Beatles, Gaga in a single sentence. When you attempt this wierdness of course this unnecessary debates will happen.
And Bliz, did you really have to say:
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Justin Beiber = John Lennon = Elvis Presley = Richard Wagner = Wolfgang Mozart. They're all basically made of the same stuff and have the same intellectual brilliance and incredible talent for music. If anything, people like Beiber, Spears, and Gaga are actually a little higher standard than people like Mozart since they've had far more competition and have risen in spite of it.
Come on mate! Seriously? That's what the word "nonsense" means in the dictionary. Don't do that.
Also I'm irritated to see Bieber boy and Gaga in the same place as Bieber is cheap as hell and Gaga creates her own quality.
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posted May 25, 2011 08:08 PM |
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Lol, The Beatles still relevant? xD
Go to a random school and compare how many people that likes the Beatles compared to Lady Gaga, Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry and Justin Bieber.
Lady Gaga is amazing. She has made music fun to listen too. She is interesting and creative. Watch her interviews and live performances. Please watch the MYV 2009 VMA Paparazzi performance. It's amazing and literally lethal.
Lady Gaga is the Queen of Pop today. There is no doubts.
And she will come into history as the greatest performer in the 2010s.
Bad Romance is one of the best songs in the 2000s so far and several songs from her new album such as Governemnt Hooker, Bloody Mary, Americano and Electric Chapel are amazing though I felt that the Fame Monster was better overall.
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posted May 25, 2011 08:20 PM |
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Who gives a **** about what random school people say about Gaga? You ask people in the music business, you also ask people who KNOW a thing or two about music and they will all say the same that The Beatles and other such bands are so much more influential and without them paving the way for future music, you would never have any of this music we have today. Keep that in mind mate.
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posted May 25, 2011 08:38 PM |
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Bad Romance is one of the best songs in the 2000s so far and several songs from her new album such as Governemnt Hooker, Bloody Mary, Americano and Electric Chapel are amazing though I felt that the Fame Monster was better overall.
I must admit I find Government Hooker to be quite annoying. XD Bloody Mary and Electric Chapel are absolutely amazing, though. And Highway Unicorn has hit written all over it.
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posted May 25, 2011 08:56 PM |
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Lady Gaga is the Queen of Pop today. There is no doubts.
She is NOT, there is no doubt. Madonna and Kylie Minogue still live. Former being the Queen, later is the Princess. Gaga is more popular these days, that's just it. But she cannot even compare to these two. Madonna is the pop music. And her later albums are even better than the early ones, so don't start "her early albums were good, now she sucks" thing, as everyone says about every artist everyday. It became a trend of somekind.
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Go to a random school and compare how many people that likes the Beatles compared to Lady Gaga, Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry and Justin Bieber.
That does not prove anything other than they are more popular. Being popular is not being good as it does not mean "popular is bad". This sentence is pure childish Xerox, sorry but that's why people said "just get more mature" to you when you said you want to be a mod in HC.
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She has made music fun to listen too.
So you hadn't get any fun from listening to music until Gaga became famous? That's sad, really.
Hell, I simply hate Beatles and I like Gaga but your arguments are so silly that I have to defend the opposing one. Don't go declaring a woman with 3 albums so far the Queen of pop. Wtf? She is very good. And that's that.
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posted May 25, 2011 09:18 PM |
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Lady Gaga is the Queen of Pop today. There is no doubts.
She is NOT, there is no doubt. Madonna and Kylie Minogue still live. Former being the Queen, later is the Princess. Gaga is more popular these days, that's just it. But she cannot even compare to these two. Madonna is the pop music. And her later albums are even better than the early ones, so don't start "her early albums were good, now she sucks" thing, as everyone says about every artist everyday. It became a trend of somekind.
*cough*American Life*cough* But yeah, that glitch aside, she's made some good albums (Music was excellent even). I actually think her best outing in years was the Confessions Tour DVD ... I made a CD of live cuts from that (different choice than the official CD) and it's amazing.
Same goes for Kylie. Aphrodite was just plain horrible, All The Lovers was the only redeming moment on that. But I really liked X and Light Years, and Fever had some great cuts, although overall it was hit and miss. Again, I love her live DVDs.
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posted May 25, 2011 09:18 PM |
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Justin Beiber = Richard Wagner = Wolfgang Mozart.
Hmm, one thing is sure, you ignore what music is. I will refrain to make a boring thread about, still, it is not my business to critic what people enjoy.
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posted May 25, 2011 09:22 PM |
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Popular often equals good, because people become popular for a reason.
In Gaga's case, she has grown popular because she is something new and original and has successfully built a massive and loyal fanbase of litle monsters.
When did Madonnas last album come? 40 years ago? Has she been touring for like two years straight all over the world like Lady Gaga?
Kyie? Who? I barely know who she is.
Sorry, but Madonna may have been a very good Queen of Pop, but her time is out. Gaga has succeded her now. Madonna was great I guess (before my time) but today and in the future, she will be little compared to Queen Gaga.
While Gaga will contiune to release several numer one hits each year, tour the world and win tons of awards, Madonna will not in the future.
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posted May 25, 2011 09:24 PM |
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So Rebecca Black is good is she because everybody knows her. Stupid logic.
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posted May 25, 2011 09:36 PM |
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*cough*American Life*cough*
Same goes for Kylie. Aphrodite was just plain horrible, All The Lovers was the only redeming moment on that.
American Life is a great album. Aphrodite on the other hand is one of the best albums of Minogue except for the song All The Lovers. We are just opposite of each other in these it seems.
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Popular often equals good, because people become popular for a reason.
In Gaga's case, she has grown popular because she is something new and original and has successfully built a massive and loyal fanbase of litle monsters.
When did Madonnas last album come? 40 years ago? Has she been touring for like two years straight all over the world like Lady Gaga?
Kyie? Who? I barely know who she is.
Sorry, but Madonna may have been a very good Queen of Pop, but her time is out. Gaga has succeded her now. Madonna was great I guess (before my time) but today and in the future, she will be little compared to Queen Gaga.
While Gaga will contiune to release several numer one hits each year, tour the world and win tons of awards, Madonna will not in the future.
Wow... Sorry. You really are just a child, I now realise the full extend :/ Every sentence in that quote is totally wrong and I won't tire myself explaining those to you. But know that you are not even funny doing these claims you know absolutely nothing about. 5 years later you will delete these posts probably. Or just want to change your nickname altogether for the shame. I just quoted your whole post as you can delete your post when that time comes but you can't delete it from my post.
OK, this tread also ends for me here. I won't listen to an ignorant 15 year old boy's humiliations to living legends. Patience to everyone who does.
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posted May 25, 2011 10:03 PM |
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@Noc: give way to the idiots. They won't find it anyway.
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