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vitorsly
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posted June 24, 2011 10:30 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 16:23, 15 Jul 2011.

MM:L Heroes goes RTS.

(Thanks to LizardWarrior for the Great Palladin, Sun crusader, Troll, War Troll ,Boar, Wagon, Assassin and Raptor images! )
This is my spin-off for the might and magic series. It is called: Might and Magic: Lords and it is an RTS. Here I am going to list the units, buildings and factions in the game as well as the gameplay like resources and how workers collect resources.
The story is set in the world of Ryfan.
First of all the game has pretty different factions ( like starcraft 1/2 or Warcraft 3 )
The factions are: Empire (heaven), Stronghold, Sylvan and Dungeon. (maybe I will add more later)

There are 6 resources:
Food: Used to create most units. Got from farms or by killing animals like boars and pigs
Wood: Used to create buildings. It is harvested from Trees.
Stone: Used to create some buildings. Collected from Rocks.
Metal: Used to create armored units and upgrades. Collected from metal mines.
Crystals:  Used to create magic and strong units. Collected from rare crystal mines.
Population: You need Population to be able to recruit more units. Bigger units use more population.

The first faction is: The empire (Heaven/castle/knight from previous games) cheap and weak in the start but powerfull and costy in the end-game.

Buildings
Town hall:  Used to create Peasants and Pikemen. Every player starts with one.
Small Farm: When a peasant works in one it gives 10 food every 30 seconds. Upgrades to Large farm.
Large farm: Same as small farm but 3 peasants can work on one at the same time.
House: Gives 6 Population points to the team.
Arrow tower: Shoots arrows to nearby enemies. Upgrades to Large arrow tower.
Ballista tower: Shoots 2 times faster and has more health than Arrow tower.
Fort: Creates footmen, archers and knights. Upgrades to Castle.
Castle:  Can also create Guardians, Crossbowmen and Champions.
Temple: Creates Monks and Paladins. Researches Holy swords, Holy armor and Priest training.   Upgrades to Holy temple.
Holy temple: Also creates Zealots, Sun Crusaders and Angels. Researches Resurrection.
Aviary: Can create Falcons and Griffins. Researches Sky eyes and Battle dive.
Blacksmith: Can research Improved Plate, Improved Leather, Animal armor, Improved swords and Improved Bows.
Mill: Drop-off point for food and wood.
Quarry: Drop-off point for stone, metal and crystals.
Units
Peasant: Useless as fighters but if it weren't for their mining, farming, building, hunting and lumbering skills there would be no more empire.
Pikeman: The empire basic fighters. Not so powerful but cheap and available from the start.
Footman: The first real warriors of the empire. Useful at early game for rushes as they are cheap.
Archer: Not so good early game ranged unit. Low health and high damage makes it a high priority for enemies to attack.
Knight: Good speed, good attack and good defense  but not so good cost. Useful at high numbers when you have a good cash flow.
Guardian: Good in the mid-game with an average price. Useful to protect against attacks while you wait for more powerful creatures.
Crossbowman: an average shooter for the empire but still lacking in health so protect them.
Champion: Like the knight but more power, more health, more speed and more cost. These are where the empire shifts into a hard to manage but powerful strategy.
Monk: The monk is a useful shooter that can use minor light spells like heal and minor bless.
Palladin: The elite troops of the empire. The paladin does additional damage against stronghold troops.
Zealot: Even more powerful then the monk. He can use heal, major bless, and resurrection.

Sun crusader: Incredibly powerful and fast but too costly for anything other than end-game. Keep them alive.
Angel: Can shoot light balls from his hand and carry a massive blade in the other even when flying. The second most powerful unit in the game but the second most costly too.
Griffin: This noble creature looks like a fusion between a lion and an eagle and is a powerful unit with a low cost.
Falcon: The falcon is the first flier available to the empire and useful for scouting.

The second faction is Stronghold
buildings:
Main tent: Can create goblins and wagons.
Pig farm: when a goblin goes to work there it gives 10 food every 30 seconds. Can also create boars.
Stick hut: gives 5 population points. upgrades to stone hut.
Stone hut: gives 10 population points.
Battle tent: creates Barbarian, Ogres and Trolls. upgrades to war tent.
War tent: Also creates Berserker, Ogre Magi and War Trolls.
Beastmen tent: creates harpies and centaurs.
Giant Cave: Creates cyclops, behemoths and Thunderbirds.
Sentry tower: Has a great line of sight. Upgrades to Spear tower.
Spear tower: Can shoot arrows far away.
Units
Goblin: Basic workers AND fighters of the stronghold. Also useful as scouts.
Wagon: Always pulled by a boar this is where the goblins look to drop-off their resources.
Boar: Cheap and useful to scout because of the good defense and great speed but very low attack.
Boar riders: Created when a goblin climbs into a Boar. Moderate power and good defense.
Barbarian: Good fighters with powerful attack and health for its price.
Ogre: Incredible health and attack power but low speed and high price. Useful in mid-game.
Troll: The first stronghold shooter and a very good one at that.
Berserker: even better in close combat than the barbarian with more health and twice the attack power.
Ogre Magi: More armor, more attack and 3 special abilities make this guy a great deal when if you are filthy rich. Can cast fireball, Fury and Stoneskin.
War Troll: Even more powerful and has the regeneration ability.
Harpy: weak flier if it wasn't for a great speed.
Centaur: the fastest shooting creature in the game and quite cheap but not very useful because of the way low defense and attack power.
Cyclops: End-game shooter with  great power against enemy buildings.
Behemoth: Stronghold's best unit with awesome attack and good defense. Why is it so cheap? It is the only super-unit that can't fly.
Thunderbird: Stronghold's best flier but not much good. Great attack but low health and high cost.

Third faction: Dungeon
Buildings
Outpost: Creates Troglodytes and Beholders.
Underground farm: If a troglodyte is working there, generates 15 food every 30 seconds.
Blood Arena: Creates Minotaurs, Manticores and Medusas.
Blood Coliseum: Also creates Minotaur Gladiators, Scorpicores and Medusa Empresses.
Assassin's guild: Creates Assassin's and Rogues. Also researches toxic darts and toxic knives.
Lizard cave: Creates Raptors, Drakes and Dragons.
Watch Tower: Can see enemy units in a long range. Upgrades to Warlock tower.
Warlock tower: Shoots Dark Lightning at the enemy units.
Underground forge: Improves armor and weapons.
Units
Troglodyte: Good attacking units and harvest resources for dungeon.
Beholder: Shoots lightning and summons dungeon buildings. Also generates population.
Minotaur: Costy but necessary for dungeon's survival.
Flier that uses a poison attack. Could use a health boost.
Medusa: The first main dungeon shooter available.
Stone gaze is quite useful.
Minotaur Gladiator: More powerful and more health than the minotaur. Useful in high numbers at the end-game.
Medusa Empress: Even more powerful shooter.
Scorpicore: Much more powerful poison and more health.
Rogue: useful as a scout due to its fast speed. Needs some health boost in normal battles. Turns invisible for some seconds.
Assassin: A useful long range attacker with a poisonous attack.
Raptor: Fast underground lizards with a great attack.
Drake: When a dragon has from 100 to 200 years it is called a drake and it has a great attack and defense but a high cost too.
Dragon: When a drakes reaches 200 years it turns into a dragon with incredible power, health and speed that can defeat any other mortal creature in battle. but his price is also the highest one.

Forth faction: Rampart
Buildings:
Tree of life: Creates Pixies and dendroids.
Forest Cabins: Gives 8 population points.
Wild farm: Generates food if a pixie is working on it.
Lodge: Creates Hunters, Blade Fighters and Tiger Riders.
Battle lodge: Creates Master hunters, Blade Masters and Tiger Knights.
Druid tents: Creates Druids, Lycantropes and Dryads.
Animal Totem: Creates Wolves, Pegasi and Bears.
Enchanted Tree: Creates Elder Dendroid, Unicron and Phoenix.
Forest tower: Shoots enchanted arrows at close enemies.


Post your ideas, likes and dislikes and I will see what I can do about it.

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posted June 25, 2011 12:56 PM

Change Arrow Tower->Large Arrow Tower into something less boring,like Arrow Tower->Ballista Tower or Watch Tower->Guard Tower.Large Arrow Tower is a boring name and is too long,generally in games names of units/buildings aren't longer than 2 words
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posted June 25, 2011 04:33 PM

another one =)

I'm waiting for to see how this will be going

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posted June 25, 2011 09:07 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 12:46, 26 Jun 2011.

@Lizard warrior
Yes good idea. I couldn't think about other names at the moment.
@jiriki9
Well I am probably going to post the rest of the empire today or tomorrow.

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posted June 26, 2011 02:27 PM

siem thigns seem have gotten in a mess in the lineup (champion looks description with the monk, f.e.)...otherwise it looks solid
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posted June 26, 2011 05:50 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 18:03, 26 Jun 2011.

The units images looks to much like h3 ones,make like me and change their colors,add/erase parts etc. to look a little original.You can keep some units as they are,but some changes will be very good

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posted June 26, 2011 06:01 PM

Quote:
The units images looks to much like h3 ones,make like me and change their colors,add/erase parts etc. to look a little original.You can keep some units as they are,but some changes will be very good

Well I ain't very good (or good at all) creating creatures ( or editing) so I used the H3 pictures because they fit well.

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posted June 26, 2011 06:02 PM

using my photoshop skills I made a picture of paladin.


You can use it as long as you give some credits to me
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posted June 26, 2011 07:36 PM

Quote:
using my photoshop skills I made a picture of paladin.


You can use it as long as you give some credits to me

OMG AWESOME! Thank you I will edit the post and list your name!

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posted June 26, 2011 09:56 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:08, 26 Jun 2011.

I made another pic for paladin,hope it's better


edit: and sun crusader

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posted June 27, 2011 01:51 PM

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I made another pic for paladin,hope it's better


edit: and sun crusader


YAY! Thank you very much. The other one was great but this one is even better!
And the sun crusader is also really good.

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posted June 29, 2011 07:54 PM

hey vit...it would be quite better to read if you grouped units which are upgrades (or so. it seems there IS a thing like that, judging by the similarity of some units)...it would make it easier and more...well nicer to read, just...^^
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posted June 29, 2011 09:04 PM

Really interesting idea.
Think I like it (or at least I give it a try)!

I noticed that you influenced strongly by the H4 unit line-up when you put centaurs and harpies in the 'barbarian' army. Frankly I always liked the original line-ups (H1 and H2) and until WoG I really missed the centaur archers...

And, sorry for this, but I think angles are boring. Try to find something else instead as these machines aren't fit into a human based town (much more into wizard faction who creates so much machines like golems and giants\titans...).
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posted June 29, 2011 10:58 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 23:22, 29 Jun 2011.

I made boar and troll for you.

Can you wrote my (nick)name in bold now

edit:and a better wagoon


for that make my name red too
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posted June 30, 2011 08:51 PM
Edited by vitorsly at 21:02, 30 Jun 2011.

Quote:
I made boar and troll for you.

Can you wrote my (nick)name in bold now

edit:and a better wagoon


for that make my name red too


LOL okay! I think it is a good deal getting images of this quality and just editing a post Make me the war troll and the 2 next creatures and I will underline the name! Armor and magma-like rock?

@ Jiriki9
Yes Some units have the same strategies applied to them with different efficiencies. but the are supposed to be grouped into buildings where they are trained.

@ Duke_Falcon

Machines? The closest to a machine here is the stronghold's wagon.
Academy WILL have the most machines.

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posted June 30, 2011 09:54 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:54, 30 Jun 2011.

For me it's very easy ok, war troll


I hope dungeon will be the next faction.
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posted July 01, 2011 02:39 PM

Quote:
For me it's very easy ok, war troll


I hope dungeon will be the next faction.


Yes dungeon is the next faction. Later it is going to be forest faction.
(who is the first one to guess why I decided it was going to be those factions?)

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posted July 04, 2011 06:22 PM

Quote:
Medusa: The first dungeon shooter available.

Isnt the beholder available earlier?!
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posted July 04, 2011 09:24 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:04, 04 Jul 2011.

You need my help.

Assassin


Raptor


move my name from the end of the post to top of the post

I hope next faction will be necropolis
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posted July 04, 2011 09:58 PM

*sigh* basebuilding ...

otherwise, nice!could use some more clarification, but i could see this being fun! don't like the overall "unoriginall boring old RTS style" i:e starcraft wanking.

yes, i think DoW II is MUCH better than Starcraft...

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