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posted July 08, 2011 06:56 PM

PICK ME OMEGA PICK ME OVER HERE!!
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posted July 08, 2011 06:59 PM

Sure, haven't played overmuch, but I could give it a spin.
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posted July 08, 2011 10:21 PM
Edited by khalbrae at 22:26, 08 Jul 2011.

I have an Eldar army I still haven't finished painting.

I originally wanted to play Tyranid, but they were 100% metal at the time and way, wayyy too expensive.

I sometimes wish I had picked space marines because of how little detail they have on them and how big and broad their smooth armour is.

It takes me hours to paint a single Guardian.

Anyway, my Eldar army unfortunately doesn't have any aspect warriors in it (yet) because back then they were all metal (super expensive).

I do have:

A farseer.

Many, many guardians.

A couple of warlocks to lead them.

1 Wraithlord (I think I picked the starcannon? the multi-shot one good for killing space marines? That's a starcannon right?)

3 normal jetbikes and 2 shrieker jetbikes (need 1 more jetbike to make it legal to use the second shrieker)

1 Vyper Jetbike.

1 Falcon Grav Tank

1 Fire Prism Grav Tank

If only I could really find the time to finish painting my army up. Moreso to actually be able to play a game with somebody.

Edit: Ooooooh. I forgot. Somewhere I have some old, old harlequins and a Death Jester given to me by an older work colleague who in exchange, only ask me not to laugh at his paint job. (And they're finally usable in the game again too)



I also have a Fantasy Empire army.

I have the model of the Emperor himself. (Fantasy Emperor, not 40k emperor)

Mostly jsut chose them because everybody else I knew was anything else I'd want to be.

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posted July 08, 2011 10:27 PM

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If only I could really find the time to finish painting my army up. Moreso to actually be able to play a game with somebody.


Good luck with that
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posted July 08, 2011 10:29 PM
Edited by khalbrae at 22:30, 08 Jul 2011.

Oooooh!

The new Eldar Battleforce has some actual Dire Avengers in it, and a war walker and wave serpent! all models I don't have... and a heavy support weapon to make guardians actually useful vs stuff! (Okay, maybe I'm a little hard on them, at least they can shoot twice while moving or use their eldar abilities to run away faster or something)

*looks in wallet*

Hm... I know. Good luck with that too.

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posted July 08, 2011 11:06 PM

Ok... The lithuanian hobbyshop clerks are retards. And the tabletop wargame market in here is practically nonexistant.
I went to one hoping to find a birthday gift to my dad(he's an airplane modelist) and since he bought a valkyrie model when we were in UK, I figured he'd like another Wh40k aircraft. I asked the saleslady if they have anything of WH40K. She replied that "we don't sell the separate parts of the games"
I was like WTF, and feeling extremely pissed left the store.
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posted July 09, 2011 08:38 AM
Edited by Darkshadow at 08:39, 09 Jul 2011.

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So Taus sh**ing bricks if they face with Khorne Berserkers or f**king Nids?

Oh, are they good against Necrons? 'Cause most of the 40k armies sucks against those techno-undeads. Necrons are way to powerfull and strong...


Nothing is good against the necrons.

You could consider them weak at close range, that is if they don't have a C'tan and if they do it's time to abaddon ship.


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posted July 20, 2011 12:44 PM

The Hivemind is a creature of such ingraspable power not due to some source of lore but simply due to the fact that it is THE HIVEMIND. It wields an everevolving army with the strength to consume the galxy how exactly can you not atleast be on par with a comparibly minor player in the C'Tan pantheon?
Not to mention that any C'Tan won't manipulate anything to exterminate a specific faction the Necrons and their gods are opposed to all life in the galaxy making the Tau every bit as despicable and hated a foe as Mankind, Orcs, The Eldar and what have you.
So why would the few still existing C'Tan use their efforts to further a race that they will want to kill eventually. And don't give me the whole "My enemies enemy is my friend stuff" the C'Tan are beyond such concerns. They will end the Galaxy for they are Legion there is no doubt in their minds.

While the whole pitting X against Y seems like a very "Deceiver-esque" thing to do I severely doubt he'd use his efforts to advance the Tau, not to mention how completely different Tau and Necro tech are.

And how exactly are the Necrons more advanced on a level that truely matters to warfare? Yes they have a body of living Metal which lets them regenerate but apart from that there really is little difference whether you're hit by a gauss flayer or a Plasma Rifle don't you think?
Don't get me wrong the Necrons are waaaaay beyond anyone techwise as far as I know but the Tau are already quite efficient at what they do.
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posted July 20, 2011 12:56 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 12:57, 20 Jul 2011.

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The Hivemind is a creature of such ingraspable power not due to some source of lore but simply due to the fact that it is THE HIVEMIND. It wields an everevolving army with the strength to consume the galxy how exactly can you not atleast be on par with a comparibly minor player in the C'Tan pantheon?
Not to mention that any C'Tan won't manipulate anything to exterminate a specific faction the Necrons and their gods are opposed to all life in the galaxy making the Tau every bit as despicable and hated a foe as Mankind, Orcs, The Eldar and what have you.
So why would the few still existing C'Tan use their efforts to further a race that they will want to kill eventually. And don't give me the whole "My enemies enemy is my friend stuff" the C'Tan are beyond such concerns. They will end the Galaxy for they are Legion there is no doubt in their minds.

While the whole pitting X against Y seems like a very "Deceiver-esque" thing to do I severely doubt he'd use his efforts to advance the Tau, not to mention how completely different Tau and Necro tech are.

And how exactly are the Necrons more advanced on a level that truely matters to warfare? Yes they have a body of living Metal which lets them regenerate but apart from that there really is little difference whether you're hit by a gauss flayer or a Plasma Rifle don't you think?
Don't get me wrong the Necrons are waaaaay beyond anyone techwise as far as I know but the Tau are already quite efficient at what they do


Do we even know that the hivemind is an actual creature rather than just a link between all the tyranids?

And actually the C'tan don't "hate" life, that is a necron thing. C'tan only concern themselves with harvesting life.And can you claim to understand the Deceiver? It's plots are as insane as Tzeench's

On ground warfare I can't say since we don't know even a remote estimate of the necron's total firepower, after all, it has been said that the necrons currently active are just harvesting and scout forces.But you have to admit that their gauss guns pack some serious punch, and there is the fact that you can't really kill a necron.

On space they are FAR ahead of everyone else. Their ships are more agile than any other ships in the galaxy, their firepower rivals the heaviest guns in the imperium, their armor is next to impossible to destory, they don't use warp to travel.

And lets not forget they can create world engines that take an entire SM chapter to destroy
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posted July 20, 2011 01:28 PM

Well noone knows what the Hivemind is or what form it has but what we do know for certain however is that the Hivemind has a sentinence ergo it is a creature/entity of some sort. Tyranids are linked with the Hivemind via different ways but it's not like a call center Tyranids use they communicate. The Hivemind imposes its will on it's creatures it is the guiding force behind the swarm which is why Tyranids are pretty much useless if you can sever the connection.

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And actually the C'tan don't "hate" life, that is a necron thing. C'tan only concern themselves with harvesting life.

Pretty much the same thing in the end if you ask me. Whether you killed all life in Galaxy simply to get rid of anything non-mechanical or to sate your appetite makes little difference to all living things in the Galaxy don't you think?

And no I don't say I get the Deceiver lol I'm just saying that "The Deceiver is probably involved" is a kinda invalid argument since you said it yourself noone understands the Deceiver. You can basically use him to explain anything. And Dude I respect the C'Tan and all but come on it's Tzeentch he's the master of plotting while the Deceiver may be older he's got nothing on Tzeentch he knows everything there is to know in the Universe. He's frikkin Tzeentch. But yeah comparing gods is kinda weird since there is little facts to base a comparison on.

And well the fact the Necrons are Legion isn't exactly unknown but that's just Quantity over quality. The are legion but they're not a cohesive fighting unit they're automatons in the end and need their Overlords to guide them similar to the Tyranid swarm. Without them they just fall back on easy to predict pre-programmned response patterns (read "The Fall of Damnos"). And yeah a Gauss Riffle packs a ridicolous punch but so does about every other weapon except for a Lass Carabine in these times, no?

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And lets not forget they can create world engines that take an entire SM chapter to destroy

Where do you have that from? Also the whole Starship thing you're refering to that is a lot of lost technology. We know the Necrons had it at some point in time but by now a lot of it is either lost, hidden, still dormant, abused by other races or destroyed/disfunctional. So yeah the Necrons are powerful and technologically advanced but they're not the end all be all of the WH40k universe. That's the cool thing the scales very rarely tip in favour of any of the factions in the grand scheme of things.
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posted July 20, 2011 01:47 PM
Edited by Adrius at 13:51, 20 Jul 2011.

Continued from Blizz' thread

@Azzie: I get most of mah lore from the Lexicanum. You're probably a lot more knowledgable than me with your books and everything but I'll try anyway.

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It is also true that the Tau are a race bereft of psykers. Whether it is due to their limited Warp interaction or something distinct about the Tau mind it means that they are unique amongst the dominant races of the galaxy. For while it does mean that the Tau do not possess the significant advantages that having psykers brings, it is also worthy to note that not one Tau has ever fallen to Chaos. In fact, as a species, the Tau register as barely more than a blip in the Warp and it may well be that this has been their saving grace, protecting the altruism and idealism their race shares from the destructive tendencies of Chaos.


So yeah, seems like the Tau are at least very hard to corrupt.

As for C'tan manipulating the Tyrandis... why not? Do we really know that much about the Hivemind? It's powerful yes, but can it not be manipulated?

The C'tan using the Tyranids in order to keep the other races occupied while the Necrons sleep sounds plausible to me. Also ehh... the C'tan eat sentient life, Tyranids convert other life to sentient life, moar sentient life = moar food for C'tan. The Necrons want to obliterate all life yes, but the C'tan just want to eat souls. If all life in the galaxy was converted into the sentient being called the Hivemind, and a C'tan then ate that one... it'd be one awesome feast.

However... considering how insanely strong the Hivemind's Psyker powers are it'd take a pretty badass C'tan to dare mess with it... it could probably kill the C'tan just by staring at it ^^ There might be some plan involved though.
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posted July 25, 2011 07:27 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 19:27, 25 Jul 2011.

Strange new rumors abound.

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Here's a doozy. Fluff changes. (prepare for heavy summary) We're moving on from the 41st millenium into the 42nd. Yup. Here's the rumor: mankind's days are really waning. They're heading down the crapper fast and xenos, especially Necrons, are coming into quite the threat. Well, mankind just doesn't have the power, and now Necrons are threatening Chaos, and the Chaos forces are like 'well wtf guyz'. So, Chaos has to fight across the galaxy against the enemies that mankind were fighting against, perhaps even allying with loyalist forces against a common foe. This will be expanded on in the coming Codices, including Necron and Chaos Legions, which should set up for the big fluff change in 6th edition. Some of the rest sounded more like wish, opinion, and extrapolation; Void Dragon coming up, Primarchs coming back, Emperor's descendants being found by an unnamed portion of the Imperium in order to fight the Void Dragon, etc etc...

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posted July 25, 2011 07:44 PM

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So, Chaos has to fight across the galaxy against the enemies that mankind were fighting against, perhaps even allying with loyalist forces against a common foe.

NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!! NEVER!! They'd rape their entire lore up until this point.
NEVER! I'd be so dissapointed.... Still many of the primarchs are only semi-dead like The Lion ("Sleeping" beneath the Rock), Guilleman (it's a persistant rumor/belief that he is healing in the Stasisfield he's being hold in despite it technically being impossible), Dorn is also in a Stasisfield if I remember correctly, Jaghatai Khan and Leman Russ being missing and not confirmed dead and well all of the Chaos Primarchs being alive and kicking in the Eye of Terror except for Horus as far as I know so seeing some of them return isn't too implausible especially for Chaos if they are under as much pressure as this suggests. Also it would make sense that the Emperor would return in the Imperiums darkest hour.

This sounds really exciting though!!
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posted July 25, 2011 07:51 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 19:52, 25 Jul 2011.

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Also it would make sense that the Emperor would return in the Imperiums darkest hour


And then have the gods of the physical universe completely decimate him?

Im all up for it

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So, Chaos has to fight across the galaxy against the enemies that mankind were fighting against, perhaps even allying with loyalist forces against a common foe.


Not very likely since chaos has the attention span of a 3 year old and they can't even properly concentrate on the black crusades
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posted July 25, 2011 07:53 PM

So Necrons invade the Eye of Terror?
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posted July 25, 2011 07:54 PM

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So Necrons invade the Eye of Terror?


Necrons are after souls, chaos followers souls are already in the hands of the chaos gods so no.
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posted July 25, 2011 07:58 PM

...of the "physical" universe? You mean Chaos? I doubt it. Also yeah yeah I know you don't like the Emperor but he is a being of such singular power that he defeated and imprisioned a C'Tan (as close to a physical god as things get) and the Pantheon of Chaos stoped their Great Game decided to join forces to bring him down and they only barely succeded. If the Emperor should really return (and I hope he does he is like a walking Supernova he will bring some pain!!) he won't be easy to bring down.
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posted July 25, 2011 08:05 PM
Edited by OmegaDestroyer at 20:06, 25 Jul 2011.

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Jaghatai Khan and Leman Russ

Vulkan is missing as well.  

The C'tan are out for souls.  The Necrons are out to exterminate all life in the galaxy.  
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posted July 25, 2011 08:11 PM

Right forgot about the Salamandres they're so low profile. And Rogal Dorn is dead I mixed him up with Guileman. Hmm what about Corax? Lexicanum says he left his Chapter on course for the Eye of Terror... anyone know something more specific?
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posted July 25, 2011 08:13 PM

Probably went nuts and wouldn't be very good to anyone.  Then again...
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