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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 20, 2015 03:15 PM |
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fred79 said:
oh, ok. i know exactly the file you mean(it was Feanor's Forge, which is VCMI work). not sure where i downloaded it from(either HC, Acidcave, or df2), and since i can't seem to find it online( ), i'll upload it for you.
here it is
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 20, 2015 03:25 PM |
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salubri said:
What's with brain suckers and juggernauts? A non upgraded version has no forge features. Why would this faction use monsters that have no mechanical agumentations or futuristic weapons? And why brain suckers? Are there no larger creatures in Deiya than tiny brain suckers?
i think of the brain suckers like a mutant/radiated version of the serpent/dragonfly from Fortress. i'm using mutated/radiated trees for my Forge, and they are like a different version of the dendroids from Rampart. mutations fit very well in the Forge theme, in my opinion(radiation can do that).
though, damned if i know what the VCMI juggernauts are spawns of. maybe dabbling with genetic mutations? sounds about right. regardless, they fit too. 
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Haregar
Famous Hero
of destruction
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posted September 20, 2015 03:33 PM |
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fred79 said:
oh, ok. i know exactly the file you mean(it was Feanor's Forge, which is VCMI work). not sure where i downloaded it from(either HC, Acidcave, or df2), and since i can't seem to find it online(), i'll upload it for you.
I saw the link, thank you, although I can't use it right now and tell if it's the thing I was talking about. I forgot even how to install it (we had a small tutorial made by Sower long ago on our old forum), so for now I must relay on your relations. 
First of all I have no idea why is it called "Feanor's Forge". If it really have our graphics inside (I mean units, buildings, small sprites, portraits, music etc.), then it should be called rather "Haregar's Forge" (as for I was a leader with short break when Manigoldo took the leadership) or better: "The Heavenly Forge Team's Forge"... I don't mind as we have this town released in more original, better version, but still. If the guy called Feanor gathered all files we had in our alpha, added some of his work and created town that could ascend past our alpha in terms of quality, then it's okay as long as my old team's members (their nicks) are mentioned).
But as I said, I can't check it right now so I can't say if it's our alpha or not. Would you be so kind and add some screenshots, if you can? They'd be helpful. I'd appreciate to see 3 of them: on the battlefield, town screen and on adventure map. 
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 20, 2015 03:36 PM |
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i don't think it's actually called "feanor's forge". i think it was released by him, which is why i named it as such, for better categorization. i do that to keep track, in case i get a virus from somebodys upload. i have no idea who put what together with that, other than members of the VCMI team(and i only assume that, because the upload was made for VCMI).
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Haregar
Famous Hero
of destruction
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posted September 20, 2015 04:42 PM |
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To be frank I don't remember on which version our alpha was made, ERA or VCMI. Maybe Sower remembers as he was the main author of it as programmist.
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salubri
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 22, 2015 10:17 AM |
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fred79 said:
salubri said:
What's with brain suckers and juggernauts? A non upgraded version has no forge features. Why would this faction use monsters that have no mechanical agumentations or futuristic weapons? And why brain suckers? Are there no larger creatures in Deiya than tiny brain suckers?
i think of the brain suckers like a mutant/radiated version of the serpent/dragonfly from Fortress. i'm using mutated/radiated trees for my Forge, and they are like a different version of the dendroids from Rampart. mutations fit very well in the Forge theme, in my opinion(radiation can do that).
though, damned if i know what the VCMI juggernauts are spawns of. maybe dabbling with genetic mutations? sounds about right. regardless, they fit too.
So what does forge get from mutants? If a non mutated version with blaster or mechanical agumentations would be much stronger. Mutants feel pain and iron is thougher than muscle. Even the weakest goblins get a blaster. The whole theme of this town was to get advanced weapons and even make purely mechanical units. Now a brain sucker with a blaster in his body that would be believable and very dangerous cause of his speed and fire power. Imagine suddenly a rain of blasters from the sky.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted September 23, 2015 04:21 PM |
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fred79 said:
"he was 98 pounds of solid nerd until he became..." now, doesn't THAT dude look like he could snow snow up? not a sissy 98 pounds no more, is he? 
/offtopic
Now that is a movie I enjoyed Troma Entertainment at it's best
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 24, 2015 04:23 AM |
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is this thread ok to talk about my Forge/Stronghold replacement, or should i post it elsewhere? i just realized that this isn't a generic Forge thread(is there one?)...
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Haregar
Famous Hero
of destruction
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posted September 24, 2015 05:53 PM |
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Edited by Haregar at 17:55, 24 Sep 2015.
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fred79 said:
is this thread ok to talk about my Forge/Stronghold replacement, or should i post it elsewhere? i just realized that this isn't a generic Forge thread(is there one?)...
Sure, why not? This thread is like general thread for the Heavenly Forge. There was another thread in the past, but that chapter was "closed" (as well as the thread). This one begun when Manigoldo posted some materials made by my old team when I was absent (although he had my permission). Later other people posted their work, so basically after our project fell, another was rose (and as you can easily notice it succeeded - one of many teams menaged to finish Forge town and it is now availble for download).
It's good to have one place to post things related with certain topic, so I don't think You should create a separate thread for your project if you are okay with posting your works or ideas here.
I'm glad this thread's name was modified; if there is be more finished Forge towns, then maybe we'll have to have two separate threads for VCMI and Era versions? Who knows, future is gonna tell us one day for sure. For now we can only say a lot of "ifs".
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 24, 2015 08:12 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 14:32, 30 Sep 2015.
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as far as i know, there's only 2 more Forge towns in the making atm: mine(which started out as being different team's work thrown together; but now it will only be using the creatures they made, and a few buildings perhaps. i'll do my best to make my version my own, but i have limited resources. one thing that i'll have to make on my own, is the mutant tree dwellings for the townscreen and map editor, which will be a toxic waste dump site next to a forest), and the HotA team's.
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Neraus
Promising
Legendary Hero
Pain relief cream seller
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posted September 24, 2015 10:38 PM |
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There is also mine, which is linked to a bigger project, so I don't know exactly whether to release anything...
There's also the fact that I took parts from the other projects so...
I do have Cyber Nagash and cyber Axis though, the reason why I did that? If ever I complete the mod you'll understand.
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ANTUDO
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fred79
Disgraceful
Undefeatable Hero
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posted September 24, 2015 11:51 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 14:33, 30 Sep 2015.
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@ neraus: why wouldn't you? the more resources are out there, the better.
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Macron1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 07:20 AM |
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fred79 said:
@ neraus: why wouldn't you? the more resources are out there, the better.
speaking of resources, does anyone have this oil pump isolated?
i know someone does, because it's not original. and from what i've heard, no one is going to use it, as it is possibly outdated. i want to use it to replace the Stronghold waterfall for my Forge.
(i have the oil pump animated, but it's on a background that will not match with the original i'm using; because of it's placement. i'd have to cut each animation frame out, if i wanted it. some awesome person could save me a good chunk of time, by sharing the isolated version)
In Feanor Forge townscreen (published) there is a oil pimp with transparency.
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salubri
Adventuring Hero
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posted September 25, 2015 09:58 PM |
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fred79 said:
salubri said:
So what does forge get from mutants?
so, you don't think mutants can be strong? i guess you never heard of the Hulk? or Fantastic Four's Thing? or, more closely related, the Toxic Avenger?
"he was 98 pounds of solid nerd until he became..." now, doesn't THAT dude look like he could snow snow up? not a sissy 98 pounds no more, is he?
Yeah they can be strong, but it just doesn't fit there. It's like if necropolis decided to replace vampires with necromancers. It's ok with town theme, but they are living and not dead (thats why they have liches and not necromancers). So what is the point of Forge copying blasters and other weapons and not giving them to a certain creatures.
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Dairy
Known Hero
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posted September 26, 2015 04:07 PM |
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1st of all, congrats on making full new town guys ! :-) Seems like it's the golden age for H3 Modding now.
I tryed it but it lacked some parts for me, like some sounds or the explosion for the rocketeer. 
On the other hand, is Fred anyhow related to this project or something. Seems like he is infiltrating all sorts of topics and talking mindlessly about his work and what he is releasing in those topics. Just a question tho.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted September 26, 2015 04:12 PM |
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fred79 said:
in my search, i found a cool cover of the gilligan theme song, regarding NWC's Forge(don't know who to attribute as the author, but it was on df2):
that's from Armageddon's Blade mate, it's the message you get at the end of the Foolhardy Waywardness campaign lol
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torrasque
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 26, 2015 05:13 PM |
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fred79]so, you don't think mutants can be strong? i guess you never heard of the Hulk? or Fantastic Four's Thing? or, more closely related, the Toxic Avenger?
/quote said:
In reality, they just get cancer.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted September 26, 2015 05:18 PM |
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torrasque said:
fred79]so, you don't think mutants can be strong? i guess you never heard of the Hulk? or Fantastic Four's Thing? or, more closely related, the Toxic Avenger?
/quote said:
In reality, they just get cancer.
Guys, we are talking about sci-fi faction in high-fantasy world, not medicine.
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torrasque
Tavern Dweller
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posted September 26, 2015 05:25 PM |
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Warmonger said:
torrasque said:
fred79]so, you don't think mutants can be strong? i guess you never heard of the Hulk? or Fantastic Four's Thing? or, more closely related, the Toxic Avenger?
/quote said:
In reality, they just get cancer.
Guys, we are talking about sci-fi faction in high-fantasy world, not medicine.
What I'm trying to say is, if I have to choose between
1. "Creatures got stronger because they got hi-tech armor and weapons" makes sense.
2. "Creatures got stronger because they've been exposed to radiation and toxic waste".
I'd go with #1. People who created the original Forge went with #1. Polish forge team though went with "it's not creative enough, so let's go with #2", which is not a good argument because all of a sudden, you go from Star Wars to Spider-Man.
Heavenly Forge makes sense to me, within the world of MM. No need to bring Marvel's crackpot science (mutation = super powers) into that though. Sure, both are fiction, but they're totally different and I don't think they mix well.
Personally, I'd prefer steampunk Cyber zombies and Naga tanks.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted September 26, 2015 05:40 PM |
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Having all the units the same is just boring. Insects and mutants are nice addition to humanoid line-up of Forge.
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