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Thread: 1.3 Multiplayer impressions, suggestions This thread is 11 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 · «PREV / NEXT»
Kitten
Kitten


Known Hero
Roar
posted August 25, 2011 03:26 PM

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I know, but I have two Haven Magic heroes.

With the Blood Magic hero, I get +3 Might Defense from the Tear skill "Defender I"

But with the Tear Magic hero, I only get +1 Might Defense from it. :/


Oh I just noticed that too now =/ Same goes for Diplomat, Blood heroes gains more. I guess they reversed the gain of those skills.
I think they should also make Dark 3 give +3 spell power instead of +2. Every other element 3 gives +3 spell power but dark =/

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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted August 25, 2011 04:14 PM

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I'm not so sure if the Necro wall is THAT powerful anymore. Atleast not against Haven.
There are a few things I'd like to try against Haven with Necropolis and Inferno so if you promise not to use Retribution Aura, we can make a few games.

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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted August 25, 2011 05:21 PM
Edited by xerox at 18:08, 25 Aug 2011.

Sure, this is how I use the "OP" spells:
1. I never use Retribution Aura at all.

2. I use Petrify on myself and enemies, but I pretend that it has a 3 turn cooldown so most of the times I only use it once a battle.

3. I use Haven's Ressurection ability but I stop attacking with the ressurected creature after 2 turns.

My name is simply XeroxHC.
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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted August 25, 2011 06:30 PM

I tried to join your game several times but it either gave me "connection timed out" or when I managed to join on one occasion, it did not allow me to select my army...

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xerox
xerox


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted August 25, 2011 07:31 PM

Lame, but I guess stuff like that should be expected in a beta... >.>
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted August 25, 2011 09:39 PM

Played today game on normal map. All so baggy ... Progress bar showing progress of opponent turn not working. 150 min is too small amount of time for serious game. On day 6 game end with message - "out of sincronization". I write message to opponent with proposition to continue, but looks like he not seen my message, chat is like non existing. Someone finished normal size map game in proper way ?  
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted August 26, 2011 09:35 PM

Ive noticed some people here are saying Necro is OP.
I think they are not. May be players who dont master other factions well
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted August 26, 2011 09:42 PM

Necro on its own might not be.

Necro turtle strategy is OP.

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e3772014
e3772014


Adventuring Hero
posted August 26, 2011 09:51 PM

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Ive noticed some people here are saying Necro is OP.
I think they are not. May be players who dont master other factions well


They might not seem OP to you because all the "good" players who have discovered the broken necro strat have given up playing duels because you can win 100% of games doing the same thing over and over.

I know I got bored of it.

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conqr
conqr


Adventuring Hero
posted August 26, 2011 09:59 PM
Edited by conqr at 22:03, 26 Aug 2011.

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Necro turtle strategy is OP.

It all depends on the block though, if the wall is broken and the weaver and the lich gets blocked then necro will have a really hard time to come back. With good unit placement the non-necro player can seriously reduce the healing of the spectres.

A stronghold might hero with mass inner fire and mighty slam can own necro. Petrification spam is the undeads only hope, and it might not be enough (if it last for 3 turns on the cyclops it might be, if its only one turn, than it almost certainly will not).

With dual retribution aura sanctuary can beat necro convincingly, and haven will have a very good chance without retribution as well.

Zenofex said he's wall last long enough, if it does against good players/factions than that might change this 'analysis'.

The duel heroes arent realistic though, (and i have not played much with good players to 'feel' the balance well enough).


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e3772014
e3772014


Adventuring Hero
posted August 26, 2011 10:08 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Necro turtle strategy is OP.

It all depends on the block though, if the wall is broken and the waver and the lich gets blocked than necro will have a really hard time to come back. With good unit placement the non-necro player can seriously reduce the healing of the spectres.



Really?  I have never had trouble against someone trying to break my wall before.  Maybe we should have some games..I am curious to see this.  My ingame name is e3772014.  Purge works pretty well against retribution aura and dispel works against petrify (not as well, but even 1 hit from the weaver = 10 dead champions/70% of elite stack/80-100% of a core stack)

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Zenofex
Zenofex


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Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted August 26, 2011 10:24 PM

The only decisive way to break the wall I've seen and used so far is with Stronghold because they can open a gap in the very first round and kill almost all Liches at the same time. The Necropolis Magic hero has a really hard time against this approach. Against the rest of the factions though the wall is pretty sturdy, at least in my experience. Haven/Sanctuary with Retribution Aura however might be problematic, I agree.

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conqr
conqr


Adventuring Hero
posted August 27, 2011 12:22 AM
Edited by conqr at 00:23, 27 Aug 2011.

Quote:
My ingame name is e3772014

If you dont have the connection timeout error, than i will be more than glad to test it with you. (If you have it we cant play (i have it as well)).
Quote:
Haven/Sanctuary with Retribution Aura however might be problematic, I agree.

I did not play haven much because of resurrect bug, but after playing it some, the double glory haven army can be very strong if used well.

We should try it out sometime, im really curious about haven v. necro now. (with like 3 turn petri cooldown, and no retribution)

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Zenofex
Zenofex


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
posted August 27, 2011 10:22 AM

I'll be around after 3-4 hours, we can try then.

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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted August 27, 2011 02:54 PM

Played game vs Zamolxis today. Installed Skype both, find each other in Skype and we got normal working  chat ! Messages visible in game and in Skype, tipping message in game and same message appear in Skype. Press enter to get chat window on. I suggest to all interested in multiplayer to install Skype, it so much easier to communicate ...
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted August 28, 2011 02:50 PM

The attack of various Heroes is a big joke.
I was having a super even duel with a Tide Master, and I had a Choas Lord.
I had plenty of Mana left after I had run him dry, the problem was that his regular attack with his Hero did about 900 damage!!
whereas my tiny little crap Hero only did 300-400...

I mean I know that the Heroes have different elements, but why??
It's a hell to balance and it makes it unfair.

But then again I hate attacking Heroes anyway.
Mana should be precious, not something that can be wasted and then just use the Hero's attack...
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infinitus
infinitus


Supreme Hero
posted August 28, 2011 03:00 PM

In our last game with Zamolxis we saved at the end of our game session. Game saved. Today we tried to load the save, and omg, impossible, no option to load Why to allow to save game, and not allow to load ? Maybe we don't know how to load ?
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DIEGIS
DIEGIS


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted August 28, 2011 03:50 PM
Edited by DIEGIS at 15:54, 28 Aug 2011.

...I think the save in multi its just intended to be broken atm. Otherwise we can stay in game and finish it ...too bad its gonna take like couple days
...Also the chat is somehow working... not fully or bugged, or just too complicated to use it properly
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pacifist
pacifist


Famous Hero
posted August 28, 2011 07:49 PM
Edited by pacifist at 19:52, 28 Aug 2011.

Some duels from youtube :


duels
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted August 28, 2011 08:17 PM

Nice, gives a good idea of how a strong army fight plays out.
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