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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Pit Fiends
Thread: Pit Fiends
RedSoxFan3
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posted February 21, 2002 06:49 AM
Edited By: RedSoxFan3 on 21 Feb 2002

Creature Abilites

This is great question for all you vets.

What determines how many demons are summoned from a dead ally? Does having more pit fiends make more demons? Does the heroes spell power affect anything? Is it the number of creatures or the orginal health of the creatures? What affect the number of demons?
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DVZ
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posted February 21, 2002 07:06 AM

I think it's the total health of the destroyed units divided by demon's health. This number cannot be greater than the number of Pit Lords (Pit Fiend cannot do this) performing the demon resurrection. This ability's also considered as a spell -- so it won't work on cursed ground or under the effect of orb of inhibition.

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Sir_Stiven
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posted February 21, 2002 09:43 AM

facts: one pit lord can summon one demon/battle.
To be able to resurrect demons one of your stacks must die. then they divide that dead HP/demons HP

So if u have 2 pit lords in one stack in a fight, and one stack with 7 halberdies in your command die. You can summon 2 demons: 70hp(halberdies)/35hp(demons)=2.
If there are 60 halberdies in the dead stack its. 60hp/35hp=1.7. Which means only one demon will be summoned.
If u have 11 halberdies its 110/35=3,2 but u will only summon 2 demons since u have only 2 pitlords . If u had 3 pit lords u would have summoned 3.

So to summon alot of demons there are alot of maths to do, split stacks and so on for most possible demons. youll learn how to do it.

I hope that helps.
/Stefan

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ShadowLord
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posted February 21, 2002 08:56 PM

I sometimes find Pit Lords effective troop  against 7th level creatures. They are durable and has great attack and damage. When summoning demons that's also one of their kick ass ability. If you're battling them as opponents with hords or throngs of creature stacks then for example imps perished. Ewww... I wonder how your face looks like once they raised demons from their casualties! I hate to admit it but Inferno wouldn't be complete without them!
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Thunder
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posted February 21, 2002 09:50 PM

I actually have found that 6 Pit Lords were able to resurrect 8 Demons. It might have been bug or something, but it was in SoD and it haven't been long since I noticed it. Their special needs further testing as I reckon that I have had situations like that before.
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StormWarning
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posted February 21, 2002 10:27 PM

Quote:
I actually have found that 6 Pit Lords were able to resurrect 8 Demons. It might have been bug or something, but it was in SoD and it haven't been long since I noticed it. Their special needs further testing as I reckon that I have had situations like that before.


Hmm ... maybe Pit Lords can summon up to an equal number of hit points (i.e. 6 Pit Lords = 270 hp = 8 Demons, with the first one having only 25 hp) rather than just an equal number.
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sos
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posted February 21, 2002 11:37 PM

I think its like this:

Devide the total HP of completely dead friendly stack by 35 and get the integer part - this is the maximum possible number of demons you can raise. There are 2 constrains:
1. Number of demons cant be more than the dead troops (that is for 1 devil you will get only 1 demon)
2. Number of demons cant be more than 10/7 the number of pitlords (that is 7 lords can bring upto 10 demons).

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DVZ
DVZ


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posted February 21, 2002 11:52 PM

It must be a trick of the eye that you saw, hehe.

Just try a game having a single Pit Lord trying to make demons out of 1000 Imps. The result will just be 1 Demon.

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ShadowLord
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posted February 22, 2002 01:22 AM

doesn't it have anything to do with your spell power? it's like summoning elementals, the higher your spell power the more also something with an expert secondary skill!
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DVZ
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posted February 22, 2002 04:15 AM

No, the Pit Lord's demon calling's not based on hero's spell power. Just their number and the number of destroyed units divided by the health of Demons.


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ShadowLord
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posted February 22, 2002 06:39 PM

How about archangels? their resurection effectiveness I find based on how high your spell power is!
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DVZ
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posted February 22, 2002 06:47 PM

Quote:
How about archangels? their resurection effectiveness I find based on how high your spell power is!


Ha! You must have not played too many titanic battle to say that Archangels' resurrection's based on the hero's spell power.
Each Archangel can resurrect as per advanced resurrection with power of 3 independent of your hero's spell power.
The more Archangels you have the more troops you can resurrect. Your hero doesn't even begin to compare! Not even the resurrection specialist.
Cast Clone on them and you have double the power of resurrection! No wonder Archangels are just the mightiest of level 7 troops.

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ShadowLord
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posted February 22, 2002 06:54 PM

Well, I am not too familiar about AA's I only like them when I go to the griffin conservatory to get them for free then I upgrade them. I play Tower/Dungeon in most occassion.

Thanks for the tip!
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Thunder
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posted February 22, 2002 09:43 PM

I tested it. 6 Pit Lords are able to resurrect 8 Demons, while 7 are able to resurrect 10. Resurrected demons need to always have their hitpoints in maximum. Thus, 1 Pit Lord can't resurrect 2 Demons.

1 Arch Angel can resurrect 100 health, which is less than hero with 3 spell power and advanced Earth Magic (3*50+80=230).
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bjorn190
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posted February 23, 2002 11:13 AM

Quote:
I tested it. 6 Pit Lords are able to resurrect 8 Demons, while 7 are able to resurrect 10. Resurrected demons need to always have their hitpoints in maximum. Thus, 1 Pit Lord can't resurrect 2 Demons.

1 Arch Angel can resurrect 100 health, which is less than hero with 3 spell power and advanced Earth Magic (3*50+80=230).


They can res about 1.42 demons per pitlord.


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Leondegrance...
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posted February 24, 2002 05:49 PM

Hmm...Demons, 35 hp, Pit Lords, 45 hp. Might be a hp thing after all, bjorn.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted February 25, 2002 03:22 AM

Diplomacy must be the best with inferno. I know since with double inferno I had well over 100 demons by week 3. Then upgrade into regular after battle, since imps and familiars are fairly useless.
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