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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 28, 2011 10:55 PM |
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Important - For those who play Online
To whom it may concern and giving a heads up to people in general.
Initially I was annoyed by people who would join my game when I had created for a friend I had arranged a game with. Alright, the chat is problematic so to an extent I can understand if one does not realize at first.
But after cancelling and creating the game 4-5 freaking times to kick you out how would one not get a hint? That borders on sheer stupidity.
Or when I even name the game 'for x only' and they still join. Case of poor eyesight or a mental indeficiency? Or lack of respect?
Then there's the people who quit the game in the middle of the fight. Sure some of those may be disconnections.. Even when they are losing 
Then there are those silly abusers who use an broken spell/ability such as resurrection or turtling necro to win games. Given that there isn't direct communication(or at least I don't know how after you start a battle, not that it would help with the chat being bugged or lacking a sound that notifies you of messages) there can be misunderstandings but using well-known abuses doesn't leave a lot of room for that. Someone who uses the class that regenerates units that die by draining nearby stacks(to preserve the unit wall), focuses on healing/defensive spells, counterstrike III and archery III with necro turtling isn't a random build try, you have used it before, enjoyed it and will use it again. Which begs the question. Why would you bother to do that? To statistically test if it is as good as they say? Uh huh.
And now someone using this very strategy, decides to stop playing in the middle of the game after he sees that I block his plans step by step. Weavers continuously petrified, liches severely weakened, skelies blocked, mana soon to run out. Did he just decide to take a 15' mins break or wanted me to quit first? Either way that's like giving me the finger.
(Yes my graphics card is below minimum  )
Which brings us to why I made this topic. I would like to ask everyone to treat their opponents with respect, whether he knows them or not. Not everyone may be from HC but those of us who play online should at the very least treat people in a civil manner, give them a game worth remembering. Not born of annoyance but of excitement. It doesn't matter if those games are not rated, it is a simple thing to ensure that the heroes community stays strong, united and fun. Let us avoid those mistakes and cultivate a good environment upon which future tournaments can blossom.
Thank you.
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Pitlord
Known Hero
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posted August 28, 2011 11:13 PM |
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 i think i know this guy! he's active on a german heroes community site xD
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 28, 2011 11:26 PM |
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Give them a game worth remembering
Isn't that Ubihole's job? 
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted August 29, 2011 08:06 AM |
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Elvin don't tell me that this is how you see every duel???
anyway this crap strategy with everyone in the corner is done by many noobs that think if they win a duel in demo with a broken faction, they are the kings of the world
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted August 29, 2011 08:35 AM |
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reminds me of some H5 random duel games where a Disconnect happens during battle without much explanation when my opponent might appear to be losing; but next time suddenly no disconnect when they are winning ...as if winning matters to them so much.
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too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus 
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 08:47 AM |
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the game's still in Beta, right?
So if someone abuses certain broken game mechanics, it's still technically the developer's fault, right?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 29, 2011 08:57 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 08:58, 29 Aug 2011.
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No, it's called being an @ss. It is a matter of plain decency. And if you fail to see why then you have missed the whole point of the thread.
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 09:10 AM |
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Nah, I get the point. It's one of the reasons I don't play vs. online,
which is why their focus on multiplayer is so infuriating to me.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2011 09:10 AM |
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To whom it may concern and giving a heads up to people in general.
Initially I was annoyed by people who would join my game when I had created for a friend I had arranged a game with. Alright, the chat is problematic so to an extent I can understand if one does not realize at first.
But after cancelling and creating the game 4-5 freaking times to kick you out how would one not get a hint? That borders on sheer stupidity.
Or when I even name the game 'for x only' and they still join. Case of poor eyesight or a mental indeficiency? Or lack of respect?
Are the passwords not working ?
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Nah, I get the point. It's one of the reasons I don't play vs. online,
which is why their focus on multiplayer is so infuriating to me.
Yeah let's make a solo game that everyone will throw away once finished ... It's people who think that the solo game is more important than the multi who are irritating me
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Jabanoss
Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
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posted August 29, 2011 09:12 AM |
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Edited by Jabanoss at 09:21, 29 Aug 2011.
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I case I haven't missed anything, I don't think there's anyplace where you can enter the password. :/
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- Meroe
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 09:13 AM |
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Edited by Avirosb at 09:13, 29 Aug 2011.
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It's people who think that the solo game is more important than the multi who are irritating me
Gee, sorry for not being competitive by nature, I guess
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 29, 2011 09:24 AM |
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Guys let us not argue  The point is that you can have a delightful experience online, all it takes is a proper code of conduct and a positive outlook. Online doesn't equal competitive, there are lots and lots of players out there, each seeking something different. Would you prefer the AI over a player that you know and trust? Whom player wouldn't necessarily sweep the floor with your remains in each game, those imba guys can be annoying But think about it, plenty of people just like you that have a more relaxed mindset and are looking for a simple fun game.
As far as passwords go, they didn't work for me. Opponent gets a wrong password message when he tries to join, without even being asked to insert a pass.
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted August 29, 2011 09:38 AM |
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TO sum up!
1) passwords do not work
2) people that enter your duel even when it is obviouos that you do not want them are *****
3) exploiting bugs in a beta/ demo game is just a sign of how pathetic some people are
4) if the game had no multiplayer it would die in a few months. Which serious gamer plays only single player mode?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted August 29, 2011 09:46 AM |
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4) if the game had no multiplayer it would die in a few months. Which serious gamer plays only single player mode?
That's pretty polemic and incorrect too. Not everyone plays multiplayer and comments like these push people further away. Besides.. Do you have any idea how many heroes players there are since H2 or H3 came out that have never ever played multiplayer?
Generation gap, young whippersnapper with your modern multiplayer ways 
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 10:12 AM |
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I've only played LAN/Hot-seat.
Even then it was mostly coop against the cpu, which (sad as it may sound) still outclasses me on 'Normal'.
So while I grew up playing H2, I'm still technically a 'noob', I guess.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted August 29, 2011 10:17 AM |
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I case I haven't missed anything, I don't think there's anyplace where you can enter the password. :/
There is but it's "grayed out" so you can't enter anything.
As for the on-line abuses - I can't agree more, certain people just don't get the idea of the beta and play solely to win with something bugged/broken. Childish at the very least.
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Nelgirith
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted August 29, 2011 10:24 AM |
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It's people who think that the solo game is more important than the multi who are irritating me
Gee, sorry for not being competitive by nature, I guess
It's not a matter of being competitive or not, it's more about not accepting that there's a part of the community who doesn't care about the solo game and saying that Ubisoft is focusing too much on multiplayer is terribly wrong.
Ubisoft has added so many solo-based features that it already makes the multiplayer fans angry : reputation, RPG aspect and all these streamlined features (retreat button, lower resources amounts, copy-pasted building trees, copy-pasted skilltrees, control zones, etc...).
Focusing too much on solo game at the expense of multi will make H6 as bad as H5. The vast majority will stop playing in a few monthes, then come back with an expansion and leave again, etc... But well, that's all Ubisoft cares about ... people coming back and buying the expansion = big success in their dictionnary.
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted August 29, 2011 10:57 AM |
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How are my not liking multiplayer synonymous with not accepting that others do?
I like some MP games, it's just that the heroes games have always been a little slow paced for my taste.
I don't want to stick around for some 40+ minutes waiting for someone to utterly annihilate me (if I even survive that long).
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted August 29, 2011 11:13 AM |
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Edited by Zenofex at 11:16, 29 Aug 2011.
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I don't want to stick around for some 40+ minutes waiting for someone to utterly annihilate me (if I even survive that long).
Erm... a good MP game should be at least several hours long in my opinion, the balance between the factions during the different stages of the game has never been among the strong sides of the series but if the final encounter between the main heroes takes place after about 2.5 - 3 months or more, the power of the respective armies is somewhat even.
Other than that, I agree that Heroes is more of a SP game but it's also true that the AI is hardly a challenge, except when it cheats too much. A human opponent is another story but then comes the issue with the balance and the bugs. It just sucks to lose against someone who is not a better player but just exploits something overpowered or bugged. The worst such case I remember is a Heroes III game between Dungeon (me) and Conflux (the opponent). The other guy had Armageddon and I had Orb of Vulnerability, thinking that it will make him kill himself (my army was a bit bigger). However, there is a bug with the said artifact which renders your otherwise invulnerable creatures (the Black Dragons in this case) susceptible to magic but not the opponent's (I'm not sure but I think it happens only against Conlux AND when you are carrying the artifact and not the Conflux player). Hence - the spell slaughtered my army without harming his. I wanted a re-match because of this but the opponent refused, claiming that it was a fair victory.
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Vangelis21
Supreme Hero
Manchild
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posted August 29, 2011 12:08 PM |
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4) if the game had no multiplayer it would die in a few months. Which serious gamer plays only single player mode?
That's pretty polemic and incorrect too. Not everyone plays multiplayer and comments like these push people further away. Besides.. Do you have any idea how many heroes players there are since H2 or H3 came out that have never ever played multiplayer?
Generation gap, young whippersnapper with your modern multiplayer ways
Oh my God little elvin... I have NO idea why someone like you that gets tired of each part of the game and moves on so fast would write something like that. Maybe his friends like single player and he doesn't want to be bad to them? I don't know.
Bottom line. NO serious gamer sticks with the single player when multiplayer exists. the AI is at MOST half as good as normally decent players you can find in multiplayer. There is nothing you can say to change my mind for two reasons:
1) Even if it is demo I have played all possible ways against the AI and I am bored already (after a month only)
2) I am more stubborn than you even if you are trying to get my place
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