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Corribus
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posted May 11, 2013 10:58 PM

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Aesthetic is also subject to interpretations. For example, I find that Fnord erm codes are beautiful (organized, explained), so as compliment I would call him an artist. It is meant as compliment, not as statement. Same thing for soccer players, we often call them artists, but only as compliment.

Is any application of creativity artistic, do you think?
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Salamandre
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posted May 11, 2013 11:51 PM

Maybe, when you get a trivial tool then achieve an outstanding result with, you can call it art. By outstanding I mean outstanding, not our every day cup of tea, the thing in front of which professionals say: woah, wish I could!
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Hobbit
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posted May 11, 2013 11:57 PM

Hey, modern art is a mix of "I could do that" and "But I didn't".
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artu
artu


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posted May 12, 2013 12:04 AM

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Aesthetic is also subject to interpretations. For example, I find that Fnord erm codes are beautiful (organized, explained), so as compliment I would call him an artist. It is meant as compliment, not as statement. Same thing for soccer players, we often call them artists, but only as compliment.

Is any application of creativity artistic, do you think?


I think he emphasizes that the word has more than one meaning. The usage of the word in A Brief History of 18th century Art and the Art of Olive Oil Cooking refers to very different concepts.

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posted May 12, 2013 12:21 AM

Well, ERM is a very trivial and ugly thing. I spent months of my life reading others ugly and incomprehensible codes, but every time I read Fnord ones, I forget it is so ugly by default. He did not code only, he draw them.
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Corribus
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posted May 12, 2013 02:01 AM

Example:  A physicist uses a highly creative solution to solve a difficult problem.  Art?  
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Salamandre
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posted May 12, 2013 02:06 AM

If he used other intuitive capacities than simple intelligence and memory, could be an artist. As compliment of course
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artu
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posted May 12, 2013 05:02 AM

Aren't intuitive capacities a result of our intelligence and memory. The difference is they are experience based rather than analysis.

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posted May 15, 2013 08:09 PM

Not sure if this is the right topic, but...

... refer to the exhibit:



Look at it for at least 2-3 minutes, then read this.

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fauch
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posted May 15, 2013 08:39 PM

I've just realized I can become a millionaire too

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Hobbit
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posted May 15, 2013 08:48 PM

Again - "I could become a millionaire, but I didn't know how".

Actually while staring at this picture I realised I was seeing:

1. Two blue rectangles
2. Two blue rectangular lakes
3. A bridge
4. A dam
5. Two monsters
6. Sky behind a white pipe
7. Some guy staring at this white pipe.

Huh.
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posted May 15, 2013 08:50 PM

Actually, I've always been thinking that ART was the ability to convey part of the personality or "soul" of the artist - that a piece of art would be a WINDOW into the soul (mind and emotional self) of the artist. That as such a piece of art is a very personal view of a specific issue.

I still think that.

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fauch
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posted May 15, 2013 08:54 PM

oh, so that's a window?

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Hobbit
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posted May 15, 2013 08:58 PM

Maybe.
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Salamandre
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posted May 16, 2013 03:58 AM

It is a subliminal message from Microsoft. Art is corrupted
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artu
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posted August 14, 2013 05:08 AM

I loved this one. Girl with Bike by Aron Wiesenfeld, 2003:


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posted September 21, 2013 05:40 PM

I very much believe a video game is a work of art, more than a work of entertainment. I believe so due to the creativity required to make a masterpiece, it's not a clear process what to do, but the coding itself can be masterfully effectively done, which is not art, while the idea behind the games, that's where the art comes in.

That's decision making can be a form of art in my opinion.

Then again, anyone can claim what art is, and the pro's will probably disagree with most (and therefore likely me too), but to be called a pro merely means you can live off it, and to be able to live off it, merely means that your art has something else than the strictly artistic.

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posted September 21, 2013 05:45 PM

I think maybe we should stop calling things art and just have everything be classified as entertainment. I mean people wouldn't go look at art if they didn't find it entertaining, right?
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artu
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posted September 21, 2013 05:50 PM

Wrong. They usually intersect but they are not the same.

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Salamandre
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posted September 21, 2013 06:09 PM

There are various levels of art and various levels of comprehension, as well as various level of humans. Some will find a metalica band artistic, others will find a Bach cantata boring. However if you start calling everything "entertaining" and refute the educational dimension of the art, then you negate any responsibility of the spectator. Therefore the logical conclusion will be: I don't find it fun, then must be bad.

While the truth could be somewhere around "it is outside my comprehension, let's not critic it if I don't have the brains for".

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