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blob2
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posted November 01, 2019 08:55 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 21:04, 01 Nov 2019.
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Ok I really must hand it to Blizzard, they tried to lessen the bad impressions they were giving off recently. I still don't trust them, but this opening ceremony gave me a shimmer of hope things can still be fixed. They apologized, they had a more open approach, there was a lot of making jokes of themselves. We didn't see a lot of those over-blown "we love our community" snippets/montages they usually do, it was more natural, more direct. But most importantly they showed that they still listen.
Diablo 4 - no surprise courtesy of the leaks (they joked about the leaks through the entire ceremony, Kaplan was the best). But boy oh boy, I wasn't even hyped for this game, but as Stevie mentioned it looks sick: the heavy atmosphere and a lot of celtic/arthurian/early-medieval settings and Druid is back! Cinematic was great and didn't shy from blood and the occult.
WoW Shadowlands - I'm not interested in WoW, but I'm interested in the story. And the whole afterlife/veil of the Azeroth looks interesting.
Hearthstone: Descent of Dragons - to say that I love Dragons in Hearthstone is like saying it all, and we're getting a lot of them: Dragon Legendary for each class and Galakrond for everyone? Count me in! New mode, Battlegrounds, seems interesting but I'm not a multiplayer so not interested...
Overwatch 2 - they really outdid themselves with the cinematic. Story mode will finally give me a reason to get into the game for good.
My only gripe with this ceremony was that there wasn't anything new on W3 Reforged, not even a date. And yeah, no Warcraft IV 
EDIT: Lol, I just realized there was not even a word mentioning Diablo Immortal
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Stevie
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posted November 01, 2019 09:44 PM |
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 02, 2019 01:10 AM |
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blob2 said:
Diablo 4 - no surprise courtesy of the leaks (they joked about the leaks through the entire ceremony, Kaplan was the best). But boy oh boy, I wasn't even hyped for this game, but as Stevie mentioned it looks sick: the heavy atmosphere and a lot of celtic/arthurian/early-medieval settings and Druid is back! Cinematic was great and didn't shy from blood and the occult.
Ok, I am hyped for Diablo 4! Blizzard finally seemed to remember that Diablo is for adults. Like that cinematic actually creeped me out a little which is what I wanted. I hope the Great Evils return. I'd love to see a power struggle between the 7 and Lilith or Prime Diablo vs Lilith.
blob2 said:
WoW Shadowlands - I'm not interested in WoW, but I'm interested in the story. And the whole afterlife/veil of the Azeroth looks interesting.
I am exactly the same way. I stopped playing at the end of WoD/beginning of Legion. And while this expansion looks great, I'm tired of Garrosh 2.0 Slyvanas. Like what about N'Zoth? Spent millennium scheming for this moment and being freed and he gets one-shot in BFA's final patch? Like what bs! This is and Old God! One who enslaved Azshara and corrupted Neltharion/Deathwing. Like Deathwing got an entire Expansion to himself and N'Zoth gets a patch. A patch! The new expansion could have been about the return of the Old Gods. But noooooooooooooooooo.
Also like Slyvanas vs. Bolvar? More bs. Slyvanas just casually beats the Lich King like he's nothing? There was no suspense in that cinematic. Friendly reminder that Slyvanas was no match for Death Knight Arthas, let alone Lich King Arthas. Oh and she can just pull the Helm of Domination apart just like that? Like okay sure. The helm was literally forged by demons but sure, Sylvanas can just yeet it apart.
Might as well just call it World of Sylvanas  .
The only way I'm gonna forgive Blizzard for this is if either A) the shadowy figure we see in the features video is the true Lich King (Ner'zhul) and he kills Slyvanas, or B) We repair the Helm of Domination and fish Arthas's soul outta the afterlife and use him to kill Sylvanas. Either way, the Lich King returns and Slyvanas dies. Then I forgive Blizzard.
Also, like what happened to "there must always be a Lich King". Who and/or what is now stopping the Scourge from running rampant and consuming the world? I guess that may be Sylvanas' plan.
Sorry, rant over.
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Stevie
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 02, 2019 09:16 AM |
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Yea, that was a stupid move from Blizzard. They just took a giant dump on the Lich King lore. Arthas was one of the best villains in WoW and WotLK was the best expansion for me. They might've thought they could reconnect with that in the new expansion, but so far it's just a far cry and a middle finger. Sylvanas is ****ing annoying. Couldn't care less what happens next.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 02, 2019 10:46 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 10:50, 02 Nov 2019.
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While the move with Lich King really seems to be bad (although we still don't know the actual outcome - there is a lot of stuff related to Lich King look on the designs of mobs etc), and from what I can gather writing was bad since BoA (or even earlier), I'm really buffled but why so many people seem to be surprised with uber Sylvanas. In her fight with Saurfang Thrall is already suspicious of her power (there's something in the lines of "where did she get such power?"). It's easy to understand there's some bigger power behind her, and that her "idiocies" (burning Teldrasill drama etc) were part of a bigger whole... suddenly her actions might make sense? She wanted to break the veil of Azeroth maybe? And I can see that much without even playing the game in recent years.
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Oddball13579
Supreme Hero
Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 02, 2019 07:39 PM |
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Odds are the true Lich King is gone now, with the helm in two pieces. Ner'zhul has likely been destroyed or banished or something. Although he might reside in the Shadowlands now.
Also I really thought it was N'Zoth empowering Slyvanas. We know that when compared to mortals, the Old Gods literally held sway over almost all forces on Azeroth. But no, it really is just Slyvanas is OP.
And we go from Slyvanas being terrified of death that she went so far as to seek immortality and try to cheat death multiple times, to her now wanting to kill every living thing? She's all over the map. Also if she really wanted to kill everything, why didn't she just claim the helm for herself and become the new Lich King Queen?
And how did she find out there even was a Lich King? Bolvar's last words were "Tell the world that the Lich King is dead and that Bolvar Fordragon died with him"
The big dump over the Lich King lore is really really what pisses me off.
And poor N'Zoth.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 02, 2019 07:52 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:53, 02 Nov 2019.
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We still don't know who's actually "empowering" her. But if she's simply OP then yeah, it's bad writing
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 02, 2019 08:05 PM |
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Exactly.
Like in BFA, she led the Horde and Alliance to Azshara. Because that knife that was made from N'Zoth guided her there. Azshara then completed her pact with N'Zoth and freed him. It really lead us to believe that Sylvanas was just another pawn of N'Zoth. And was working with him, either because she was corrupted by him or otherwise.
But now, bad writing just seems to make her OP. Like her pet Nathanos. Who survived a battle with both Tyrande and Malfurion, two of the oldest and most powerful Night Elves on Azeroth literally right up there with Azshara.
Bad writing is everywhere. It's like they hired the writers for GoT season 8 to write their story now.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 02, 2019 10:52 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 01:06, 03 Nov 2019.
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 03, 2019 02:33 AM |
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Damn this makes things interesting.
Also Diablo 4 looks pretty decent right now
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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
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posted November 03, 2019 09:11 AM |
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It looks like Diablo III trying to squeeze some nostalgia credit from Diablo I and II. I'm not really impressed, except with the cinematic quality of course.
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Blake00
Known Hero
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posted November 03, 2019 10:02 AM |
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Edited by Blake00 at 10:02, 03 Nov 2019.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 03, 2019 11:15 AM |
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Edited by blob2 at 11:22, 03 Nov 2019.
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I like how they mention "deep loot system inspired by games like Diablo", even in a game like Everspace 2. Shows how groundbraking the games were and it's sad that one of the most criticized elements of D3 was its initial loot system.
Here's a official Diablo 4 blog entry which highlights some of the machanics. The bit about loot system is especially interesting (less sets, powerful Mythic items which change you're gameplay style). They say they want to streamline it. By the look of comments opinions are varied, I personally don't like all this "stat" stuff, but some die-hard players that like to experiment seem to be worried...
It probably won't happen as it seems D4 worldbuilding goes rural, but I would love to see a Bloodborne like setting, gothic style cityscape, with all those twisted monsters/bosses (Westmarch was ma favourite act). It would so be at place within Diablo 4.
PS: Bonus, a 25th WoW anniversary montage that gives me all the nostalgia feels: "For Azeroth".
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Supreme Hero
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posted November 11, 2019 11:24 PM |
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Hey ,
thinking of trying Wolcen ! question is, do you keep your old builds ( lvl 20 for now, I think ) or do you need to start a new when the full game comes out - anyone knows ?
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NimoStar
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Modding the Unmoddable
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posted November 13, 2019 09:20 AM |
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Edited by NimoStar at 09:24, 13 Nov 2019.
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Diablo 4 gameplay looks totally normal, uneventful, non innovative.
Of course, par for expectation with the fourth iteration of a game...
In WoW:
According to what I read, Sylvana's power comes from The Jailer...
And nothing Starcraft related?
Speaking of which, the whole Sylvanas thing is just Kerrigan 2.0 ... from elf, to undead (zerg), to world-changing god/ess...
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 13, 2019 05:50 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:26, 13 Nov 2019.
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NimoStar said:
Diablo 4 gameplay looks totally normal, uneventful, non innovative.
Like it always was (we're not talking about innovative mechanics). Yet it doesn't change the fact that from all hack n' slashes the series always captivated me the most.
NimoStar said:
And nothing Starcraft related?
Speaking of which, the whole Sylvanas thing is just Kerrigan 2.0 ... from elf, to undead (zerg), to world-changing god/ess...
Yeah it's very Blizzardish. But even if they do change their storytelling in future (highly doubtful, but possible), the whole Sylvanas arc seems to be something they were cooking up since long ago so they need to go with it (it was hinted long time ago, and yet it seems they still managed tu surprise the WoW crowd).
With Diablo 4 I'm hoping they will go back to making each of their games more unique. Last couple of years was a time when it seems Blizzard wanted to streamline their style, that's why all games artistic directions seem really similar. The same style unification is what probably diminished players reception of Diablo 3.
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 15, 2019 05:45 AM |
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I'm surprised that no one is talking about Jedi Fallen Order
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted November 15, 2019 06:13 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 18:14, 15 Nov 2019.
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Oddball13579 said:
I'm surprised that no one is talking about Jedi Fallen Order
I lost my interest in Star Wars games since Pod Racer and Phantom Menace the action game  (played some Battlegrounds in-between).
But yeah, judging by the reviews fans have something to look forward to.
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Stevie
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posted November 15, 2019 06:36 PM |
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Oddball13579
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Grandmaster of the Hunt
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posted November 15, 2019 10:18 PM |
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blob2 said:
Oddball13579 said:
I'm surprised that no one is talking about Jedi Fallen Order
I lost my interest in Star Wars games since Pod Racer and Phantom Menace the action game (played some Battlegrounds in-between).
But yeah, judging by the reviews fans have something to look forward to.
Actually some of the people on one of the Discord servers I'm in, have the game right now and so far the game has received so-so reviews from them.
"I bought origin access to play Fallen Order, played a decent chunk of it. Game is fun, but nothing amazing. Basically a cross between Sekiro and Uncharted. Combat is timing based parry spam like Sekiro, exploration is climb on everything like Uncharted." Is what one said.
So far it doesn't really seem like I am missing anything. Especially seeing as Jedi Fallen Order is a "story about a jedi" and has no Dark Side options or Dark Side Force powers. No Lightning or Choking. So that's a rather big strike against the game from me.
Like you are playing as a Jedi who survived Order 66. How can you not struggle with the Dark Side? No inner struggle? No desperation to become stronger to continue to live so you turn to the darkness? No anger? No urge to lash out? Like come on! The struggle between Light and Dark has been the very crux of Star Wars since its conception. Almost all games where you play as a Force sensitive give you the ability to choose your side. KOTOR 1 & 2, the Jedi Knight series.
So far Fallen Order looks lack luster.
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