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Thread: Another unreleased town... I dunno which is worse... This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 24, 2017 11:49 AM
Edited by Baronus at 11:52, 24 Jun 2017.

Rather I think about his personality than about my pleasant :-) If someone is here one time, only to put this words he has a problem. He dont break my heart:-)
1. First very good surrealistic lineup of Court is Tirith not mine :-)
2. Regna good idea is not mine but group of modders.
3. Dungeon ecran is very good NWC concept. I think better than final.
I only correct and finish this projects.
He hate this people. I think to be in true, its not real rating of this cities but only aggresion. I dont know why? Aggresive words are not a critic. Gives nothing to think creators. Only can stop his work.


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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted June 24, 2017 05:10 PM

That was supposed to be a mirror-recognition thing. How you saw it as a wall is beyond me.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 24, 2017 05:36 PM

All forum and community sholud help one another not destroy his work. Critics should help. Its good for all of us.

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verriker
verriker


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Legendary Hero
Erwin Goes To Space
posted June 24, 2017 05:41 PM

Baronus said:
3. Dungeon ecran


hey mate just a handy hint but it is screen in english not ecran, I had seen you say ecran a lot when you could say screen, ecran or ekran or whatnot is used in other languages such as polish but in english one tends to say screen instead cheerio mate lol
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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 24, 2017 06:14 PM

ecran...
Your right there is no word :-) I have in head:
ecranisation
And I thougt you have from this ecran:-) for cinema screen :-)
Thanks! If you correct me you learn me English! I want to know how is correct! :-)


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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted June 24, 2017 10:48 PM

Baronus said:
All forum and community sholud help one another not destroy his work. Critics should help. Its good for all of us.


i've heard this said before, and i'll point you back to----> conflux, and the collapse of 3do/nwc. the release of forge could have prevented all of that(WE'LL NEVER KNOW NOW, WILL WE???). we could have had greater heroes games, by the original company. but no, you naysayers and your opinions snowed that all up. thanks for that. early ubi fans, i think.

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AncientDruids
AncientDruids


Known Hero
BEware THe DRuids
posted June 24, 2017 11:09 PM

@Baronus That's true that my earlier post was hurtful and uncivil. There wasn't anything that warranted such unpleasand reply and I hope you'll accept my apology. That said, allow me to write again what I meant, this time without needless ill tone.

Baronus said:
New lineup? Old is good.

It really wasn't. Old lineup was in odds with everything present in Heroes III aesthetic. It was different from units in the game and even from each other. The statue thing doesn't even have texture, looks like a raw 3d model. New line-up is polished and fits Heroes III units' style. In my opinion, Cockatrice is the only unit that currently needs improving.

Baronus said:
6 and 7 lvl dodo? Its mistake. Clonning is not good.

If I understand correctly, you point at Dodo and Cockatrice being too similar. True, they are two birds, but they are completely different creatures with different potential abilities. Besides, Rampart line-up has 3 horse-like creatures (4 if you count hero's mount) and Fortress has 4 lizards (5 if you count the heroes).

Baronus said:
1. First very good surrealistic lineup of Court is Tirith not mine :-)
2. Regna good idea is not mine but group of modders.
3. Dungeon ecran is very good NWC concept. I think better than final.
I only correct and finish this projects.

You aren't making any service to those resources, their original authors, players and really, anyone. They are discarded, outdated and flawed assets, that look jarring next to the units and buildings from the original game. Making them playable doesn't change that and won't produce any valuable content.

I understand this is your fancy and no one can stop or judge you, but do you really think anybody would play Regna with sloppily cobbled town screen and units from 3 different games when they could play HotA's Cove? Would anyone play old Courtyard with a burning pig, a cannon on legs and crawling pile of dirt when they could play Courtyard with polished town screen and more attractive and cooler units? I applaud your efforts, but can't commend your approach and very low standards.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 25, 2017 09:22 AM
Edited by Baronus at 09:53, 25 Jun 2017.

Now I can answer.
But if you wrote:
Regna with sloppily cobbled town screen and units from 3 different games
???
Regna is not cobbled but grass rather and units are from Regna not from 3 games? What city you mean? Its not mine.
I like this city screen and its the reason I worked on.

They are discarded, outdated and flawed assets, that look jarring next to the units and buildings from the original game.
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Its only your subjective opinion. Other can say that castle or rampart is discarded, outdated and flawed ... About own preferences there is not a discussion.

when they could play HotA's Cove?
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Ok its very good city. But it dont works like you said. A lot players are boring still the same 9 cities plus Cove. And they search something new. And for this group we do it... People want new cities. And its biggest group of mod players. All other are small. "Only HotA" players I think is very small... Some people dont want WoG only HotA because its easiest to play new city than learn complicated WoG options. But we give city not options... It dont work. Who like Cove not "options", like another new city too. Because he is open for new. Only 9 city players group is biggest but they dont play mods so there is no problem

Making them playable doesn't change that and won't produce any valuable content.
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Next time your subjective opinion based on nothing. May be used in all situations. Eg. Conflux won't produce any valuable content. Conflux haters told it. Absolutly not! ALL PLAYERS MOD GIVES VALUABLE CONTENT! EVEN VERY AMATEUR! Its game development. And I can only say: DO MODS!

I understand this is your fancy and no one can stop or judge you
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Of course emotional non reconsiderd words dont stop me. Nothing stop me to do good. But beware you can hurt someone and stop his project and we all will lose something good. Hating is very destructive. People are not so hard like me :-) Easy to discouraged person. Its great evil.

But Im happy you apologize. Its great good and hard to do it. You give me more good this words than evil by first post :-) Im surprised. Good surprised :-):-) Its most important than all others :-)

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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted June 25, 2017 03:00 PM

I think theres a big language barrier here.

As for the town, well, the town screen is amazing. Units are also of high quality, but I think (knowing trith's earlier work) can be much better.

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AncientDruids
AncientDruids


Known Hero
BEware THe DRuids
posted June 25, 2017 04:53 PM

Just a word of clarification:
Baronus said:

Its only your subjective opinion. Other can say that castle or rampart is discarded, outdated and flawed ... About own preferences there is not a discussion.

You know what all those words mean? You can't really say that castle or rampart are discarded if they wound up in the final release of Heroes III. You can't say they are outdated if no newer versions were released. And if you say something is flawed, you are talking about a specific issue. There is nothing subjective about that. You can't just say "subjective" to rebut every argument.

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Dj
Dj


Promising
Supreme Hero
Always loyal to HC
posted June 25, 2017 05:41 PM

If you guys take any suggestions, the dodo bird could fit well as a mount (of the hero of a humanoid creature) and without the helmet :-D ; high speed and 2x attack

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 25, 2017 07:30 PM
Edited by Baronus at 19:33, 25 Jun 2017.

I dont see objective reason why for some people conflux is mistake. The same your rating players made cities. Its not constructive and I dont see sense in cintinuation. Because how is target of it? Stopping mod creation because are outdated?

So I can do something helpful. I can write about new lineup.

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Tirith give very good new screen but lineup is weak.
1,2 lvl are the same style. One from inferno? Second from haeven? Both the same model. Man with staff.
Next musceteer? From France?
Next vegetable looking woman
And forge mutant?
6,7 too similiar two hens/gasee
Units have good design and look but why are together? How is idea? I dont understand?
To compare Eg. Plane of the Earth my design:
1. Ooze
2. Dark Dwarf
3. Earth elemental
4. Weremole
5. Stone elemental
6. Stone Juggernaut
7. Underground dragon no wings non flying!
All they lives in ground. ALL HAVE ANOTHER VERY DIFFERENT LOOK!!! All fit to theme but there are no clones! Its the idea.
...

New single units design is very good but how is whole idea? I dont uderstand.
First pack of units idea was very clean. Mad laboratory products. Walking guns, dodo with helmet, walking statue, etc. Very good surrealistic lineup. New one is how? Harm to breaking concept by random jumble.
Musceteer especialy is painfull because its copy paste from Dumas book ecranisations. We all know it and all if we see him we think about  Dartagnan.
Tirith is not here and dont tell about project. Maybe he can redesign it and will use very good spries to some cities?

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2017 03:07 PM

Court update. Corrections and better town screen.
court2 upd

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Erwin Goes To Space
posted June 26, 2017 03:18 PM

Baronus said:
To compare Eg. Plane of the Earth my design:
1. Ooze
2. Dark Dwarf
3. Earth elemental
4. Weremole
5. Stone elemental
6. Stone Juggernaut
7. Underground dragon no wings non flying!
All they lives in ground. ALL HAVE ANOTHER VERY DIFFERENT LOOK!!! All fit to theme but there are no clones! Its the idea.


to be honest mate the Earth Elemental, Stone Elemental and Stone Juggernaut do sound a bit like clones to me lol
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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2017 04:28 PM




Clones! Why I didnt see that! They are completly identical!
clone

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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted June 26, 2017 06:09 PM
Edited by revolut1oN at 18:11, 26 Jun 2017.

This lineup full of stone creatures without any theme other than "underground" and lackluster graphics is puny at best. Not to mention earth elemental which is alredy in conflux lmao

Baronus, why do you spam Court topic with your nonsence town content? Go to your own thread.

As for the lineup suggestion, I'd like to see at least one more human creature - alchemist maybe?


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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2017 07:17 PM

Next hater... I woudnt answer if I see only hate a nonsenses...

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2017 07:28 PM

Baronus said:
Next hater... I woudnt answer if I see only hate a nonsenses...


Keep strong. They are only consumers. They are unable to create anything, so they are raging against someone so able as you.

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Baronus
Baronus


Supreme Hero
posted June 26, 2017 07:38 PM
Edited by Baronus at 19:39, 26 Jun 2017.

Satan push possesed to hate, want stop good. All talents are from God to use it for other people. Not for my own business. I do it free for all and I dont want money or other material profits.  But hate stop me. Im like stone... elemental :-) Stonewall.

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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Erwin Goes To Space
posted June 26, 2017 07:48 PM

hey I am sorry mate I for sure did not want to come across as a hater of you or your work or someone who is nasty and vicious, not at all mate keep it up, I merely thought it was funny curiosity to mention because at least on paper for an Earth Elemental and a Stone Elemental there is no difference cheers lol
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