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Heroes Community > Heroes 6 - The New Beginning > Thread: Is "Reap what you Sow" achievement even possible?
Thread: Is "Reap what you Sow" achievement even possible?
Dark-Whisperer
Dark-Whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted January 12, 2012 04:41 PM
Edited by Dark-Whisperer at 17:12, 12 Jan 2012.

*POSSIBLE SPOILER*

So what is "Reap what you Sow" achievement all about?
For this achievement we need to kill at least seven stack of creatures in single combat.

I was asking on multiple forums is there a sure way to do this achievement.
Nobody answered.
That could mean that nobody knows or there is no way to do it. And I think that for now its impossible. Here is why.

I have tried to attack Michael at the end of prologue mission with different heroes and factions, I was using creatures with unlimited retaliations, I was using sword of griffin that gives creature of your choice multiple retaliations and just couldn't kill any creature beside Michael because my creatures simply do not retaliate on Michael's guards even if there is no ability that gives them no retaliations in their skills description.

Then I taught I will just attack fort, town or hero with seven units, but shooters simply do not attack in melee even when cornered and without hero.
I was trying with "taunt" and "frenzy" skills but they do not cause retaliation after creature affected by them attack you.
I have also tried skill "storm winds" that impaires enemy ranged attacks but they still won't attack in melee.

So whats left? To find seven creature stack without shooters and "no-retaliations" creatures (glory, sun rider, harpy) among them? Impossible.

Did anybody made this achievement without being insanely lucky? How many of you have this achievement done?

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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
posted January 12, 2012 05:23 PM

If gated stacks count, you could probably do it against Inferno without too much headache. Also you can pin a ranged shooter to make sure they won't walk away.
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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Supreme Hero
posted January 12, 2012 05:30 PM

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Then I taught I will just attack fort, town or hero with seven units, but shooters simply do not attack in melee even when cornered and without hero.


That is the strange thing here. All the rangers in the game, when you block their ranged with a unit, first waits, then does a melee attack on a unit. That was always the case for me without exception.

So what do yours do? Just defend with an enemy near them? What difficulty are you playing at? If the difference is due to that, I play at normal. So this achievement is pretty possible for me as the ranged units do melee attacks, I just didn't work on it. You have to kill every unit in the enemy army with your retaliation.

I wish this was a general "achievements" thread, cause it would be good to have one and I have many questions regarding them; but now it will be locked as your question is answered
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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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Nerf Herder
posted January 12, 2012 05:33 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 17:33, 12 Jan 2012.

A few ranged units will move on their turn once they're engaged. I've noticed, for example, that fire elementals and goblins will often move on their turn instead of attacking. Occasionally I've seen other units do it too.
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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posted January 12, 2012 05:45 PM

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A few ranged units will move on their turn once they're engaged. I've noticed, for example, that fire elementals and goblins will often move on their turn instead of attacking. Occasionally I've seen other units do it too.


Then I think I turn the AI berserk Cause I've never seen that. I especially block Fire Elementals with Life Drain casted Ghouls. And they melee them or anyone close to them.
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Dark-Whisperer
Dark-Whisperer


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Darkness feels no mercy
posted January 12, 2012 06:01 PM

I have every shooter pined down so it cannot move, surrounded by my units and edge of battlefield. They just keep defending regardless if they are led by hero or not.

I was playing campaign on normal, skirmishes on hard and when I have realized that I have only this achievement left I was playing on easy, just because I wanted to speed up the game to the point where I can safely destroy enemy just with retaliations.

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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


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Nerf Herder
posted January 12, 2012 06:04 PM

Do you have AI turned to aggressive?
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Dark-Whisperer
Dark-Whisperer


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Darkness feels no mercy
posted January 12, 2012 06:21 PM

OK, Ill try on hard with AI turned on aggressive.
Ill let you people know when I encounter first seven stack enemy.

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freespirit
freespirit

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posted January 12, 2012 06:41 PM

Here is an easy way to get the achievement. Play Inferno Campaign, Map1. At the end when you play with Azkaal you can get this achievement pretty easy. Just decimate the troops as much as you can and then let Azkaal get attacked and he will kill one stack with his massive retaliation. Rince and repeat. Have fun with your new achievement.
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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posted January 12, 2012 06:42 PM

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when I have realized that I have only this achievement left


WHAT?! Please tell me how you unlocked "Some Rotten Forever"! Hcm or here. I've done what it asks, but it didn't get unlocked. Maybe I missed a point :/
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hobo2
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posted January 12, 2012 09:22 PM

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when I have realized that I have only this achievement left


WHAT?! Please tell me how you unlocked "Some Rotten Forever"! Hcm or here. I've done what it asks, but it didn't get unlocked. Maybe I missed a point :/


I had absolutely no problem unlocking Some Rotten Forever. I just had it trigger while I was going through the Necro campaign during an ordinary fight. I used Necromancy (emptying the gauge), then I killed the last stack and it triggered.
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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posted January 12, 2012 09:32 PM

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when I have realized that I have only this achievement left


WHAT?! Please tell me how you unlocked "Some Rotten Forever"! Hcm or here. I've done what it asks, but it didn't get unlocked. Maybe I missed a point :/


I had absolutely no problem unlocking Some Rotten Forever. I just had it trigger while I was going through the Necro campaign during an ordinary fight. I used Necromancy (emptying the gauge), then I killed the last stack and it triggered.


Did the same thing, it didn't trigger. I also tried due to the achievement's name to let some stacks stay dead and emptied the necromancy on another unit, but it didn't also work.
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Dark-Whisperer
Dark-Whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted January 12, 2012 11:57 PM

I've made it!!!

I have tried one more time on same map as before out of pure despair. This time I have attacked fort with seven stacks and no hero inside. I have killed all creatures except shooters and then I have positioned my creatures in such pattern that shooters could move but they couldn't shoot (I made a corridor with my creatures as walls) and that made them attack me in melee.
Big thanks to everybody that gave me and other players great ideas how to complete this achievement.

And for "Some rotten forever" - I also got it during necro campaign. Im pretty sure I used ability and then killed last creature. No idea why its not working for you.

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deodrass
deodrass

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posted January 13, 2012 08:39 AM

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when I have realized that I have only this achievement left


WHAT?! Please tell me how you unlocked "Some Rotten Forever"! Hcm or here. I've done what it asks, but it didn't get unlocked. Maybe I missed a point :/


I had absolutely no problem unlocking Some Rotten Forever. I just had it trigger while I was going through the Necro campaign during an ordinary fight. I used Necromancy (emptying the gauge), then I killed the last stack and it triggered.


Did the same thing, it didn't trigger. I also tried due to the achievement's name to let some stacks stay dead and emptied the necromancy on another unit, but it didn't also work.


Try fighting cyclops. Thats how it worked for me. You pummel a cyclops so much health then use Necromancy so its empty. When the cyclops turn comes around it dies without any of the gauge filling up.

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Dark-Whisperer
Dark-Whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted January 13, 2012 01:28 PM

When I think about it its quite possible that I got that achievement after cyclopes that guard Soulreaver Staff on Necro 1 map... Anyway its great idea.

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towelrazer
towelrazer

Tavern Dweller
posted March 02, 2012 08:46 PM

Hi all:

Just wondering if anyone has any other ideas for the Some Rotten Forever achievement.  I've beat up literally dozens of cyclops trying to get this to go off and it just won't.  I've even reloaded the campaign and tried again with no luck.  I've played deeper into the campaign until I got ghosts (with higher initiative than the cyclops) so that I could double back and use necromancy during the ghosts turn in final round of combat, as opposed to the previous round of combat but with no luck.  Thoughts, ideas?
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krs
krs


Famous Hero
posted March 03, 2012 10:39 AM

Azkaal did it for me if I remember it correctly.

Achievements are for me no more than... well some text that appears from time to time upon which I seem to have no influence. I treat it like a counter for how many creatures I've killed. That is why I was surprised to see someone on the forums trying hard to achieve something that I thought I did without even knowing.

They could improve a lot the whole system. I got 2 screens of meaningless achievements in the Azkaal fight .

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted March 06, 2012 11:33 AM

Managed this achievment today in the bossbattel ageinst Malassas daughter.
whenever she summoned shadow elementals they attacked all my units, most of them killd them in retaliation, two shadow elemental summons and the achievment was as good as mine
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deer92
deer92

Tavern Dweller
posted March 07, 2012 07:05 AM

The easiest way to get this achievement is in the epilogue fight with (spoilers) Michael.

Play inferno with might oriented hero, get counterstrike 3, get a massive stack of cereberus, charge or better, teleport them to the middle of the battleground so every minion can reach it.  watch as the cereberus slaughter every unit that tries to attack it, you can easily get this otherwise agonising achievement with little to no effort.

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