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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 04, 2012 08:25 PM

okay in the long run the error window always pops up. i tried replacing the toby script file too. none works. if you really play and do not skip weeks by just ending turns it gives you the error window and once it starts it keeps to pop up again and again real fast. i'm really trying to figure out how hard this can be to detect. i mean v2.3 was here just a week ago and the number of changes are a handful. since i've played v2.3 with the exact same settings, only wog/yona/new objects patch activated and my standart wogification, the thing that causes this mustn't be too hard find. i mean you're the guys who code this thing from scratch right, dont you have any ideas? i sent screenshots and the error window is pretty long and full of explanations, doesnt it help? and is there a link to full v2.3 to download?

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Salamandre
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posted September 04, 2012 08:31 PM

As far as I know, there are no changes to the warfare script regardless WoG 3.58. And I can't reproduce your error in my test, started with warfare and sec skills disabled, played one week, battles, level up, I have no problems. WoG 3.58 were not modified, only a few obvious bugs were fixed.

I have a custom map using warfare script all the game, I will give it a test next week and see.
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Bersy
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posted September 04, 2012 08:36 PM

Yes
http://bers.heroes35.net/Era%20II.exe
http://bers.heroes35.net/Era%202.1.exe
http://bers.heroes35.net/Era%202.2.exe
http://bers.heroes35.net/Era%202.3.exe
http://bers.heroes35.net/Era%202.4.exe

Anyway, only 2.4+ will be supported for obvious reasons. I don't see any reason why warfare would not work if SS mod is off. You can delete Data\s folder and use the one from 2.3. Perhaps Jim's scripts were extracted not completely. But for a future update I need to know what to leave and what to delete.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 04, 2012 08:48 PM

well as i told before, i tried replacing the whole data/s file too, it is the test with the worst results. now i will try the opposite i will extract v2.3 and then simply add v2.4 features to it one by one, replacing new yona with old etc. i'll tell you how it goes.

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Bersy
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posted September 04, 2012 08:55 PM

How did you replace it? Because you replaced existing files, while Jim's changes now got separate script 80.erm, so I'd suggest to delete old folder, then copy the new one from 2.3 fully.

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Salamandre
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posted September 04, 2012 09:00 PM

Artu, can you upload the settings.dat you used for your map? I just tested warfare WITH SS activated, and I have no errors, all fine. It may be some combination you used, the problem.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 04, 2012 10:05 PM
Edited by artu at 22:08, 04 Sep 2012.

bersy, i tried so many combinations always backing things up and i reported everything here in detail, most of the time with screenshots. but after so many combinations please dont expect me to remember all of them accurately, i am trying to help as best as i can to solve this. they are all in the previous posts.

salamandre,
http://www.filedropper.com/randommapstandartnowaterminimalwogify

btw, latest report: i downloaded full v2.3 extracted to clean h3. no bugs, i replaced 2.3 wog/data/s with v2.4 data/s. Still no bugs as long as i played and i played a while. i also replaced yona folder with new one from 2.4, still no bugs. so what we are looking for is probably not in data/s or yona. maybe it's something simple as this: the old version used to keep unactivated mods in a folder called -off- the 2.4 version doesnt so maybe it still affects game play in a buggy way. or maybe it has something to with 0 (0) bug and warfare damage calculations. i really dont know but v2.4 data/s works perfectly fine under v2.3 (not the other way around though: v2.3 data/s folder under v2.4 era, the bugs still remain.)



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Bersy
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posted September 04, 2012 10:13 PM

era.dll, compatible with other simple interceptors like antiviruses/firewalls/spies, etc are used to install.

artu, try continuing playing your save in 2.4 with SS being off. I'm sure nothing will change.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 04, 2012 10:39 PM

btw this is a little off the topic but here's a saved game with the castle run bug salamandre was asking about. note that this is not about era 2 and i used to have this under classic wog too.

just attack with gelu to the castle named gateway and the imps and pikeman defending it, will run through the castle walls if not killed in the first round or two.

http://wikisend.com/download/367254/castlewallrun.GM1

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 04, 2012 10:54 PM

nope, the era.dll download doesnt work too. i got all my skills disappear in day one when i got advanced warfare:

http://www.filedropper.com/day1_1

look the only problem i had with 2.3 left, was the 0 (0) bug and it was not a game killer like this one, untill this is solved i will play 2.3 and if there is a single file from 2.4 that i can copy to 2.3 to solve 0 (0) bug i can have the name of it. other than that there is obviously something wrong with v2.4 that we cant figure out yet. i dont know why you guys havent had the same error messages, maybe it's a windows 7/ windows xp difference. but there IS a bug, it's not a rare bug, it's a game killer and i am very sure i've done all my installation right. so all i can do is let you know it is there for now.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 05, 2012 12:41 AM

okay, here's one last thing i discovered. i think v2.4 and warfare skill has some kind of incompatibility in HD mod. the reason i never considered this before was, in my tests the game gave the same error displays when i opened it normally, but i guess once the HD mod was on and the game is saved, it doesnt matter anymore. however if hd mod is never turned on things go quite normal. i am not really sure about this because i am now too tired to test the game for a long time, so maybe you can check it out sometime. if it is really that maybe contacting HD mod programmer for adapting his work to v2.4 would come in handy. there are also some other bugs i reported in his own page.

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Salamandre
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posted September 05, 2012 01:11 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 01:32, 05 Sep 2012.

AHA! HD mod. I never play with it therefore can't say about bugs. I tested one week levels up and fights until level 15 with warfare and SS on, using your settings.dat. I have no problem with except one minor glitch when click on warfare, it changes place with the last skill in the list, but probably it was intended to do so.

Your save, no bug about flying creatures: you play with heroes specialization boost, don't be surprised if unusual things occur.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 05, 2012 04:20 AM
Edited by artu at 04:23, 05 Sep 2012.

Quote:
I have no problem with except one minor glitch when click on warfare, it changes place with the last skill in the list, but probably it was intended to do so.


i never even mentioned that because that's what warfare does. before 2.4, before 2.3, even in classical wog, if you use warfare it always displays as your last skill. are you telling me that's the first time it does it to you?

and yes, i play with hs boost for years now and it never caused any single problem for me. except when meteor shower guys fire auto magic arrow they wake blinded foes up but that's not a bug, it's something they haven't thought of carefully in design. if castle wall run throughs are caused by that, guess it can be easily fixed. when you load the game, does the same thing happen to you?

and salamandre please keep in mind that when i report these bugs my settings are exactly the same as in v2.3 and before that classical wog and i've been playing many many games with that in more than one machine. so this thing is new. whatever it is it wasnt a problem before v2.4. i am using my saved wog options data file from classical wog. (so are you when you test my saves).i guess i'll test under windows 7 now, let's see if the problem is specific to XP.

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Salamandre
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posted September 05, 2012 04:33 AM

Creatures flying through walls is NOT a bug. It is part of heroes specialization boost. Right-right on the AI hero to display his abilities.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 05, 2012 05:17 AM
Edited by artu at 06:51, 05 Sep 2012.

ah, okay then. back to the real problem. i tested under windows 7, i still get the same errors. so, it's not an XP thing. here's a 5 minute video of what happens in a flv file. even if it's about hd mod compatibility i will keep on sticking to 2.3 for now. once you get used to HD mod, playing without it is like playing with a magnifier.

here's the video, hope it helps, i'm back to 2.3 for now...

http://www.filedropper.com/warfarebug

and the screenshot of the hd settings:
http://www.filedropper.com/hdsettings

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Khadras
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posted September 05, 2012 07:41 PM

Hi, Bersy! I want to thank you for last dll that you gave me because since then the game works with no bug at all. I played 15 maps with diffrent options and no bugs. Thanks!
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Bersy
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posted September 05, 2012 08:44 PM

artu, I'll try to write some ERM solution for warfare script and SS mod.
Khadras, welcome, and thanks to you for help.

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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 05, 2012 08:50 PM
Edited by artu at 21:08, 05 Sep 2012.

thanks a lot. will it be compatible with hd mod then? maybe just to make it compatible with hd like 2.3 will be easier? the problematic hd settings are on the previous posts' screenshots. it may be about "InterfaceExtensions" which is the best part of hd mod. i also posted about the issue on HD mod thread but the creator doesnt seem to be around these days. if you guys are friends or know each other it would be practical to let each other know about what you code.

edit: even with interface extensions turned off 2.4 and hd mode is still buggy. i tested it.

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Salamandre
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posted September 06, 2012 05:53 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 06:21, 06 Sep 2012.

Quote:
artu, I'll try to write some ERM solution for warfare script and SS mod.



I tested:

HD off:
Warfare and SS on/off, no problem

HD on (ouch, that was hard to handle, not gonna touch it again):
-1360x768
-improved gameplay not checked (because no idea what it does, the "?" send to russian link, would be nice to have a translation someday)
-HD version: 3.01, from artu pics, I see he has older one

Warfare and SS on/off, no problem.

My guess: more players to test are needed because right now is artu vs me, and we get opposed results. I use XP.
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solitaire345
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posted September 06, 2012 06:48 AM

Quote:
because no idea what it does, the "?" send to russian link, would be nice to have a translation someday


What link? I guess I could translate that tomorrow.
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