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JimV
JimV


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Supreme Hero
posted September 17, 2012 07:10 PM

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How to get work Era on Win 7. My heroes 3 version is Complete and works witout problems, only era don't work.


Era works for me and many others under Windows 7, so my question is,  how did you get it to not work?

More seriously, read the rest of this thread for examples of installation problems, make sure you are installing Era according to the instructions, and then if are not using the HD mod, or some other known source of incompatibility, give Bersy the information he needs to investigate your problem (the same as others have done previously at this thread).

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 17, 2012 07:18 PM

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h3sprite.pac (which MMARCHIVE will open, just change the file type to "all files")


No need anymore, I bothered enough Bersy about this issues and he added extension to MMarchive. It has *pac option as well in last release.


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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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Heroes 3 Fan
posted September 17, 2012 08:17 PM

I don't know why Era don't work for me on Windows 7, before installing Win 7 era works on XP, but for now clicking on h3era.exe i have no reaction on game side.

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Bersy
Bersy


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posted September 17, 2012 08:41 PM

Do you have 2.4 version installed?

Val, it's not me who added *.pac extension to MMArchive. Chinese guy edited string using binary editor. String is a simple template.

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Salamandre
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posted September 17, 2012 09:28 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 21:29, 17 Sep 2012.

Quote:

Chinese guy


Ops, *ran to check for virus*
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Bersy
Bersy


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posted September 17, 2012 10:04 PM

No need. Already compared.

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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posted September 18, 2012 08:08 AM

Yes, i have era 2.4 and doesn't work for me, but normal wog works.

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Bersy
Bersy


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posted September 18, 2012 11:02 AM

1. Unsure that DEP (Data Execution Prevention) is off.
HowTo
2. Unsure that h3era.exe has no compatibility settings in properties.
3. Unsure that Era is installed with admin rights if you install the game in Program Files.
4. If it still fails, change heroes3.ini (Debug=1), run the game and upload eralog.txt.

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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
posted September 18, 2012 11:07 AM

For what reason they made win7 so complicate to handle? I mean, you should be able to install and play every game without several manual modifications before. This will be a no go for people not comfortable with computers.
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Bersy
Bersy


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posted September 18, 2012 02:42 PM

Usually users do some wrong steps. For instance, on Russian forum one guy uses Dracolich pack, which in its case uses dynamical 3.58 UN:C address and crash every battle. I'm asking for installation steps, logs - everything ok. He just didn't mention additional scripts he placed manually. Same with executable properties or DEP. One day I will definitely make a FAQ of 4 points.

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JimV
JimV


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posted September 18, 2012 04:46 PM

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For what reason they made win7 so complicate to handle?


I have a hypothesis, which has no foundation except for personal experience at General Electric.

Vista was a nightmare, something that no self-respecting technical organization would have released, and Windows 7 not much better, until W7 Service Pack 1 came out.

Then I read an article about "Microsoft's Lost Decade", and things became clearer.  It turns out MS management borrowed some techniques from my old nemesis, Jack Welch (former CEO of General Electric, where I worked for 35 years), including "stack ranking" (briefly, the practice of evaluating all members of each office yearly into three ranks, A, B, and C, at fixed percentages of 20%, 70%, and %10, such that the A's get bonuses, the B's don't, and the C's get fired - that's over-simplified a bit and it doesn't work that way in practice but that is the intent).  This practice, along with other of JW's management "innovations" destroys morale and team spirit, and turns good technical organizations into poor ones, who spend more effort in office politics than in technical work.

If in doubt, blame Jack Welch.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Of course I also have a Theory of Technological Equilibrium, whereby technology becomes more and more complex faster and faster until it reaches an equilibrium in which new stuff like Windows 7 becomes obsolete before all its bugs are fixed and progress ceases - but I don't think we are quite there yet.

(Sorry for the off-topic rant, which I will delete if asked to.)

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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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Heroes 3 Fan
posted September 18, 2012 05:06 PM

Ok, I find the problem, i forget delete crtrails.txt in data.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 19, 2012 11:31 AM

And why there was crtraits.txt in Data?
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zmudziak22
zmudziak22


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Heroes 3 Fan
posted September 19, 2012 03:52 PM

Becuase i tweak infrno troops for normal Heroes III game. My inferno mod changes stats of troops and their cost, so Inferno is one of best towns and cheap like stronghold. I don't change cost of dwellings, only cost of troops.

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posted September 19, 2012 11:55 PM

Hi, I've just discovered ERA today and it's amazing.
I'm trying to convert to MODS some modifications I did on wog scripts or heroes data files but there's one mod I can't make to work.
I've made a Mod that replaces SPTRAITS.TXT but it always crashes. System is Windows XP SP3 32bit
Log link - http://wikisend.com/download/500368/eralog.zip
Mod Link - http://wikisend.com/download/191478/Spells%20Rebalanced.zip
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted September 20, 2012 12:05 AM

Use C:\Program Files\3DO\Mygame\Tools\TextEdit.exe for any modifications in text files.
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Tavern Dweller
posted September 20, 2012 08:56 AM

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Use C:\Program Files\3DO\Mygame\Tools\TextEdit.exe for any modifications in text files.

I do, but even extracting the file and not modifying it makes the game crash.

Last log lines (with unmodified file extracted with MMArchive):
>> VFS: CreateFileA
  Original: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: GetFullPathNameA
  Original: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: GetFullPathNameA
  Redirected: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: GetFullPathNameA
  Result: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: FindVFSPath
  Original: DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: FindVFSPath
  Redirected: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\Mods\Spells Rebalanced\DATA\sptraits.txt

>> VFS: CreateFileA
  Redirected: I:\Games\Heroes 3 Era\Mods\Spells Rebalanced\DATA\sptraits.txt
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted September 20, 2012 09:23 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:25, 20 Sep 2012.

It is a matter of logic. If you extract sptraits from Heroes III/Data/H3bitmap.lod, the file should be in same folder and will work only with Heroes3.exe. If you extract the text file from hmm35wog.pac (which is what you should do), the file should be in MODS/WoG/Data or a custom mod. And will work with Era.
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Tavern Dweller
posted September 20, 2012 09:59 AM

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It is a matter of logic. If you extract sptraits from Heroes III/Data/H3bitmap.lod, the file should be in same folder and will work only with Heroes3.exe. If you extract the text file from hmm35wog.pac (which is what you should do), the file should be in MODS/WoG/Data or a custom mod. And will work with Era.

I don't know why they differ, I even tried with a sptraits from another wog version I modified and crashed also.
But well, for now if I extract it from hmm35wog.pac it works so I'll try from here.
Thanks for helping
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artu
artu


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Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted September 20, 2012 10:13 AM

ok here's two saved bugs, the first one is the -360 gold i was talking about.

http://www.filedropper.com/savedbug

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