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somebody613
somebody613


Hired Hero
posted February 27, 2012 02:41 PM

Huh???

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Warmonger
Warmonger


Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
posted February 27, 2012 05:48 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 20:12, 27 Feb 2012.

Just please don't play any games. Ever.

I have no idea how is Piquedram possible. Similiar to Rashka, but army about five times bigger. Breath is very hard to stop, especially since he has tactics and extreme initiative. Phoenixes can kill my AD in two hits and I can barely scratch them at same time, despite having damage maxed.

EDIT: Nevermind, I did it. Used the fact that Commodus doesn't have tactics, which made Piq move all his Phoenixes out of castle in tactic phase. Then just protect ADs inside until they grow big with Bless & Prayer, then go melee.
I AM INVINCIBLE!
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted February 27, 2012 08:10 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:28, 27 Feb 2012.

He is not so hard, all you need is to plan well position, and anticipate his moves, make him move where you want to.

Steps

1) turn , cast prayer and haste, as his supreme have 30 speed, you need more


At the end of first turn, you can create this puzzle for him:


Second turn, shield + resurrect hen concentrate your attacks on those two stacks, until they deal less damage than you can resurrect. At start of battle, you will lose more than can resurrect, but after a few turns, the balance is made. Cast bless as soon as you can, the battle will be long:


All I have now, while my attack/damage increase every turn, is attack return on big external stacks. But I don't know how your devils are developed etc. Mine had maximum life but not so much damage, which is not so important because continuous bless will raise my damage to 400-500 until battle ends.


@Edit: congrats, you are now better player then before Piquedram


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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted February 27, 2012 09:03 PM

Nothing but trouble...
Just started month 15. My ADs (after spending all mithril) have 125 defense, while wandering Darkness Dragons have 170 attack. A single stack four times smaller than my ADs can kill them in one attack if lucky.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted February 27, 2012 09:13 PM

That's why the devils must (almost) never get hit. It is possible.
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted February 27, 2012 11:20 PM

Greetings Gentlemans.
I have a little question to you Sal if you don't mind.
I'm way behind on the map than other guys here, playing MoS,end M2.
I must kill now that pesky hero Damacon, but no way to avoid big losses. I have spells up to 2 level as you know well, so what is acceptable loss ratio in that battle?
As usually, TIA.
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Salamandre
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posted February 27, 2012 11:31 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 23:47, 27 Feb 2012.

I would choose for a start wealth or elements, master of speed has its bonus unlocked only late game (spoils of war) and he goes very fast thus will really have to know map well and visit everything. It also does not allow errors, because no battle bonuses to recover. With wealth we have huge income, with elements, our spells much stronger. Master of devils is for girlies only, so forget it.
I use it mainly for beat score record, when I know exactly how battles will be, what I need etc.

Now for Damacon, he is indeed the only battle where we do not have resurrect, and you will lose some. You already played the best maps out (SoD/WoG, no difference in battles) so you know better what can be done. Myself I don't bring shooters inside because they will all die. Usually I lose the cerberies, some efreets and devils, because no attack/return yet, so we must go inside.

It depends also if you have resistance, armorer or offense. Also ballistic helps a lot in. AI will have a priority on cerberies if no shooters, and we don't need them later. if you move them near the gate, they will be the target.
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted February 28, 2012 12:15 AM

Thanks for your qiuick response Salamandre!
You must be right about the fact-play MoS for the first try on the map is little careless from my side...but HEY...I like the challenges
Fortunately I have Balistics, so who knows...in anyway I will keep you informed about how it goes.



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Johnystorm
Johnystorm

Tavern Dweller
posted February 28, 2012 08:12 AM

thanks for hard work. Do you have Chinese version£¿

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted February 28, 2012 08:19 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:21, 28 Feb 2012.

Sure, planning to release it in 80 languages, right now I am learning all in same time for only this purpose. I only have a problem with human normal life length expectancy. After deep calculations it seems I will not live enough for this project.

@Blue Orb: just checked my save with wealth, against Damacon, and I already had attack/return, month 2. Wealth very strong early, middle and late. With elements, I did not have it, but optimized cerberies casualties by farming them into demons at battle end. Keep pits safe for this purpose.
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T2_2112
T2_2112


Supreme Hero
posted February 28, 2012 10:49 AM

Quote:
Sure, planning to release it in 80 languages, right now I am learning all in same time for only this purpose. I only have a problem with human normal life length expectancy. After deep calculations it seems I will not live enough for this project.




can you make mod play on any maps and can choice lords like this map ?

BTW, may be i will help you translate in to my mother language, if you want to

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted February 28, 2012 12:17 PM

Nope, is not suitable for any map. This needs careful balance and testing.
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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted February 28, 2012 12:42 PM

Would

I would really like to chop some of the trees down to gather those pit fiends that want to join me!

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T2_2112
T2_2112


Supreme Hero
posted February 28, 2012 02:11 PM

Quote:
Nope, is not suitable for any map. This needs careful balance and testing.


But have a way to do that right ? I always dream about choice lords like disciples in heroes III

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted February 28, 2012 02:15 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 14:17, 28 Feb 2012.

Why people always want a different thing that the one is proposed, and this before even trying it?
Here is map, available for play. I am not interested in global mods, they are the fastest way to fail on balance or other.
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Warmonger
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posted February 28, 2012 05:49 PM

Ok, how do I start this Gabriel quest?
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted February 28, 2012 05:51 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 17:55, 28 Feb 2012.

The area he is in will be available after you defeat Malekith and his trees (nearby there is brown tent). Then search for brown gate, pass through, ignore the guardian and sail until you meet Gabriel. Don't forget to bring admiral hat with you, it is required.

Then  go back at tower with saphires, take the bow from, go kill the guardian now (need 50 archers max) then visit the tower where the monolith behind the guardian leads. Get the eden key, back to Gabriel, voila.
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T2_2112
T2_2112


Supreme Hero
posted February 29, 2012 09:09 AM

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Why people always want a different thing that the one is proposed, and this before even trying it?
Here is map, available for play. I am not interested in global mods, they are the fastest way to fail on balance or other.


I still playing this map, but also want to learn how to make mod can choice lords,

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meganix
meganix

Tavern Dweller
posted February 29, 2012 07:41 PM
Edited by meganix at 19:56, 29 Feb 2012.

is it on porpoise that my units can't evolve in rank? I have waited over 3 month and i still get beated by Damacon! ACE units are insane!




i still have no chance

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted February 29, 2012 08:27 PM

Read

Meganix,read the Commodus read me file and check the ingame menu for info!And read again page 1 of this thread.

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