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Thread: EMPIRE of the WORLD IV, play This thread is 97 pages long: 1 10 ... 11 12 13 14 15 ... 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 97 · «PREV / NEXT»
alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 03, 2012 02:10 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 14:10, 03 Mar 2012.

I put a shrine near the first Earth Node, not only to upg spell faster but also I can farm the sea area near that instantly !!!

Anyway, how do you guys farm Arena?! Since it's on Cursed Ground, you can't use resurrect. Thus the only way I find being able to do without lost is using Slow, which take several times to load and save a day to meet those without Slow Immuned (Bone Dragon, Hydra, etc). Same, any tips to fight against Galthran with minimum lost?! Should I save his liches (leave them around 1k) and attack others or just kill them instantly (I din't check that they have Cursed Ground at first, make me think that I can Armageddon the hell out of him )?!

About Emissaries, do their bonus still apply after they are dead/dismiss?! If no than they are kinda useless to me... I have also thought about using Arcane Tower to transfer all of the stat into others in case it becomes redundant !!!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 03, 2012 02:56 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 15:01, 03 Mar 2012.

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If no than they are kinda useless to me...

Let's see, a short maths challenge:

Emissary gives 1-3 spell power/week. Considering you can get them month 6-7 the latest and you still have at least 10 months of play, means they will give 40-120 additional spell power.

+1 spell power = two armageddon upgrades = 4 000 000 gold (damage speaking). Even if you are extremely unlucky and you get constantly only +1 SP bonus/week, 40x4 millions means 160 000 000 gold you spare on game length. Defeating a full cyclops CB in one hit requires Armageddon at about 20 000 power, when late game.

So if you don't care about throwing away 160 millions gold, just leave the emissaries away.
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master_learn
master_learn


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posted March 03, 2012 04:07 PM
Edited by master_learn at 16:13, 03 Mar 2012.

First try


Thank you,Salamandre,for your answer!I understood in my case Fn+Insert work to print the screen.



And my first battle turn with Wystan!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 03, 2012 06:30 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:32, 03 Mar 2012.

Hard battle, I hate it. Usually you become crazy starting with 3rd turn, when no more efreets to help, and he starts cloning the titans.
Fear ability is here the key, along with teleporting demons back, any contact with nagas is lethal.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted March 03, 2012 07:00 PM

@Salamandre: K k I'm sorry, but again I still don't need SP that much, MoE's slow (have to admit that it's awesome, cast, and they turn into 1 speed ) just solve all the problems.

@Master Learn: Eh you have 16k Demons at this time?! Through the read me I know that there are some ways to transform other mons into Demons but I still don't know how, though I can still clear most things with ADs. I'm starting to up Def now, and Piquedram is a joke (cast Prayer and they will have 2xx def after several turns), + Shield and the Phoenix can barely hurt me at all, then attack and return + resurrection like every other matches...


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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted March 03, 2012 07:04 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 19:04, 03 Mar 2012.

Good god, I have 11K demons before battle with Boragus and they are barely useful. Didn't farm them intensively, though. So far I used them only to clear full banks.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 03, 2012 07:37 PM

At Boragus I have 25k of them. You don't need to farm intensively, just a few times. But of course, familiars HP should be 16 to get 1:1. Also caves of gods may give thousands of familiars if lucky.
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


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posted March 03, 2012 08:01 PM

At last Jaegar is dead, better late than never



I lost only 2 imps, cuz no spell left.



I don't have Intelligence before battle, so spell power is limited, no special ability yet also.
Seems that I'm late Sal, even playing MoS,
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 03, 2012 08:06 PM

Interesting choice, I also used the genies in early stages to get more bonuses. Intelligence will be required in hard battles later (or maybe not?). Anyway, you know where is it, in the first university.
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


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posted March 03, 2012 08:12 PM

Yeah I know but I level up after battle...Guess what skill I get
I may go to market of time and forgot navigation to get intelligence prior fight but did't want to.
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master_learn
master_learn


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walking to the library
posted March 03, 2012 09:22 PM

Nagas

Really the nagas attack along with the titans or lords of thunder killed my 1200 Archs.(I didnt think about the teleport)

But demons with the same frenzy spell that allowed the Archs in first round to kill entire stack,did their job briliantly and saved my game from reload!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 03, 2012 09:36 PM

Added mod "secondary skills scrolling", no more need to swap skills before market of time.



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master_learn
master_learn


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walking to the library
posted March 03, 2012 09:45 PM
Edited by master_learn at 21:56, 03 Mar 2012.

:)

Thank you for the new option!
Is the option included with the download on page 1?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 03, 2012 09:57 PM

Download

Run self installer then press F12 in game. Will include it in further versions, if any. For now, available only here.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


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posted March 04, 2012 06:18 PM

Don't know if this is intended or not but Admiral Hat is kinda buggy, especially when you have Free Movement on Water. Sometime even when I have AH boarding still take all of my MS for a day, which is extremely annoying sometime...

Oh one more thing about Utopias, why do you said that 8 mil is cap when Naga CBs can have 16 mil cap !!!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 04, 2012 07:04 PM

Is not buggy, the script calculates your remaining points when you go in boat and gives them back when you land. If you sail when have almost no movement left, you will have no movement left when land.

Have no ideas why Utopias have problems. In my current game, they still give money month 14, I guess is about previous money manipulations at markets, impossible to know.
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master_learn
master_learn


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walking to the library
posted March 04, 2012 07:30 PM

Month

alisapa,which month are you now and does utopias give 8 millions as cap?Any problems with the creature banks?

Salamandre,I think alisapa just compares 16 mil cap from naga bank and 8 mil from dragon utopia.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 04, 2012 07:38 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:41, 04 Mar 2012.

Yeah, I fixed some caps for several CB to avoid crazy things. 8 mil is cap for Utopias, 16 for naga bank.

Speedy Gonzales finished with MoE!



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master_learn
master_learn


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posted March 04, 2012 08:00 PM
Edited by master_learn at 20:06, 04 Mar 2012.

:)

I dont believe it!
Even if you rush the map in insane speed and somehow you ignore movement penalty,3 months cant give you 90000 demons!Thats 30000 demons per month!7500 demons per week!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted March 04, 2012 08:12 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:14, 04 Mar 2012.

Heh, no cheat, but until now I am the only one to see this, and several times.



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