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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 05, 2012 09:11 PM

I take down him 3/2/6, but you are right it last years and years for me to find a proper strategy against him. The best way was a combo from some good spells from MG, imp steal spell power(didn't have Inteligeance), ES will take the damege from his archers while devils destroy them, in that time I lost some devils and many ES but as I have Balistic he will not come out, he blind
devils and turrets shoot at ES, but I managed to hypnotize his remaining few trogs, then he started to cast clone at harpies and I steal 20% spell power every turn while trogs keep killing his Clone until he runs out of spell points, next devils wake up and kill them all one by one....wow it was nasty!
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 05, 2012 09:18 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 00:35, 07 Mar 2012.

Yeah definitely a fight for MoE or MoW, one has already ability earlier, the other has resurrect x 2 power. Or MoD but girls fight do not count here, between true men. Defeated him 3/4/2 then 3/4/4 I already have 3 abilities on Devils, from artificer. A/R, immune fire and immune 1-3. MoS is hard early, but once I will buy 20 tiles for main will improve. Expensive.

Olema : 4/3/4. 1 month earlier than other factions. Maybe I beat my record after all, if pass Wystan also.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 06, 2012 04:55 AM

Does increasing Demon's HP reduce the ratios when you farm them?!!

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 06, 2012 07:21 AM

No

alisapa,no

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 06, 2012 08:45 AM

No, but if you don't get ratio 1:1 means you have too few pitlords. Example : 1000 pitlords can't farm 5000 familiars into 5000 demons. Check the farming result, and if lower, reload battle and split familiars to have exactly that number in some slot.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 06, 2012 09:30 AM
Edited by Cepheus at 14:19, 09 Mar 2012.

Where can I find the ratio then?! Also, should I farm Efreet?! Their number is too small too farm anyway...

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 06, 2012 09:33 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 09:46, 06 Mar 2012.

The formula must be somewhere in library thread. Pitlords ability is similar to archangels, 100 archangels will resurrect more than 10 archangels. However they can not summon more than the number of dead creatures.

Efreets: do as you wish. Myself I farm them all except 25 of them, used to protect others because rebirth. End game we can have <>10 000 demons from efreets, not bad.

I found the formula:

Quote:

9 pit-lords can raise a maximum of 12 demons per battle.  7 can raise up to 9 or 10.
the number of demons you get is proportional to the # of HP in converting army, also limited to # of pitlords * 1.4.

here's a little conversion table.  All these creatures the cpu will attack before your demons/ pit-lords/ efreet first:
9 imps = 1 demon (36 HP) ... cost per demon = 450 gold
3 gogs = 1 demon (39 HP) ... 375 gold.
3 hell hounds = 2 demons (37.5 HP) ... 300 gold

7 pikemen = 2 demons (35 HP) ... 210 gold
7 archers = 2 demons (35 HP) ... 300 gold
3 griffins = 2 demons (37.5 HP) ... 300 gold

9 centaurs = 2 demons (36 HP) ... 315 gold
7 dwarves = 4 demons (35 HP) ... 210 gold
7 elves = 3 demons (35 HP) ... 433 gold
7 pegasi = 6 demons (35 HP) ... 292 gold

can't convert necro, gargoyles, or golems.
9 gremlins = 1 demon (36 HP) ... 270 gold

7 trogs = 1 demon (35 HP) ... 350 gold
5 harpies = 2 demons (35 HP) ... 325 gold
5 beholders = 3 demons (36.7 HP) ... 417 gold

7 goblins = 1 demon (35 HP) ... 280 gold
7 wolves = 2 demons (35 HP) ... 300 gold
7 orcs = 3 demons (35 HP) ... 350 gold

6 gnolls = 1 demon (36 HP) ... 300 gold
5 lizards = 2 demons (35 HP) ... 275 gold
7 flies = 4 demons (35 HP) ... 385 gold
1 basilisk = 1 demon (35 HP) ... 325 gold

all these numbers change if you have a ring of health, etc.


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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 06, 2012 04:46 PM

Ok, I have a question.
I download 'Secondary skills scrolling', put it in Mods folder.
Start the game, load save, press F12 to update erm.
In hero screen I have arrows(up&down), but they are not clickable.
I try to change 'load only these scripts' file by adding era - secondary skills scrolling.erm and saving but nothing was changed.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
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Bersy
Bersy


Honorable
Supreme Hero
posted March 06, 2012 05:14 PM

Quote:
I try to change 'load only these scripts' file by adding era - secondary skills scrolling.erm and saving but nothing was changed.

F12 after changing this txt.

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 06, 2012 05:18 PM

My bad Bersy,
I forgot to mention that F12 was done after change of text file also.
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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 06, 2012 05:25 PM

Guess

BlueOrb,dont you need to install it in the heroes folder instead of putting it in the mod folder without installing?

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 06, 2012 05:31 PM

Yep ML.
Quote:
Download

Run self installer then press F12 in game. Will include it in further versions, if any. For now, available only here.


I try this one also, anyway same result, but would ask about what self installer Salamadre means and where is it?
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 06, 2012 06:43 PM

Do you have more than 8 skills?

Look in MODS/TEW IV/DATA/s/load_only_these_scripts.txt

Should be (after installing the update)

54 wog - enhanced dwelling hint text.erm
69 wog - market of time.erm
era - quick savings.erm
commodus.erm
era - secondary skills scrolling.erm

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 06, 2012 07:40 PM

The subject

To close the subject about Tazar-what really impresses me is the thought that if Tazar is enemy of Maximus and attacks him,
then if the catapult of Tazar not destroyed or he has teleport in order for his hidras to get inside,then when implosion not available for Maximus,Tazar wins!!!

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 06, 2012 08:24 PM

OK.
Hey Sal, was waiting for your help somehow.
It seems that I managed to mess up files and folders.
Now they are sorted and I have this handy Mod working.
Thanks.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted March 06, 2012 08:27 PM

yes, all you had to do is run the update self installer from the link you quoted. It installs the mod and adds to the txt file reference to it.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2012 03:40 PM

*Fought Gondula
*Found that his Behemoth doesn't have immunity
*...
*One shotted him with Armageddon

Anyway, how long will it take more to complete the map after fighting him?! Now I have so many CBs that my head hurt trying to remember them, then after I have nearly finished them, they respawn...

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 07, 2012 04:31 PM

Rest

alisapa,maybe you should fight and rest,fight and rest and fight and rest!
How powerful your armagedon is now-how much times you have to cast it to get resources from a CB?

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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 07, 2012 04:54 PM
Edited by Cepheus at 14:19, 09 Mar 2012.

7000 power, with double cast, MoE Faction, I usually one shot them. But even then, when I change into quick combat, AI just goes dumb (they seem to not know how to use double cast) and fail to do so. Not to mention Utopias take some freaking long time to fight...

Also I put one Teleport Shrine near an Arcane Tower, transfer all my sup Heroes' Atk and Def into SP, to make sure things go down instantly.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 07, 2012 05:02 PM

Dragons

If I remember correctly,green and red dragons are not immune to armagedon...If that is so,then you have to take care of gold and black ones.

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