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tevez
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posted March 25, 2012 07:42 PM |
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Edited by tevez at 19:44, 25 Mar 2012.
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M2W3D6: I tried again, learned "reduce defense", and easy to defeat Dace
I had to sell other heroes's artifact to buy "reduce defense", upgrade town and take 2 Forsaken Place in M3W3
M2W4D3: take down Mutare (may be I should kill Zubin 1st, M3W3D6->M3W2D4
I only get primary skill)
M2W4D6:
I will try again, defeat Zubin 1st and Attack Ignetus in month 3  !!
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 25, 2012 08:53 PM |
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Zubin
And now comes Tazar!
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Mixxer5
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 25, 2012 10:01 PM |
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Salamandre: I think that I've defeated Your scripts somehow Maybe someone wrote here about it but I can't see anything like that. Thing is- Pasis (guardian which follows me at the beginning) just stands and don't do anything. I've defeated Damacon and Solmyr already and Pasis still stands in some witch hut. Month is 6 at least (sorry I don't remember). Only thing I can think about are gloves I took at the beginning from one pikemen- it took me all move points in closest pond- maybe same thing about Pasis? I can't come back to deal with him because portal is one-way only.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 25, 2012 10:54 PM |
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The gloves issue is correct, no bug. For Pasis, I don't know what you did.
Can you upload a save from your game please so I can check what's going with him? The only thing which could prohibit Pasis from taking the portal is some cheat giving early army to Commodus or a very low game difficulty.
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BlueOrb
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 03:01 PM |
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Edited by BlueOrb at 15:02, 26 Mar 2012.
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Bron has 7x29999 Great Basiliscs, is that normal?
If Yes I have to wait a lot before fight him.
Looks like he has 7x1250 but this...?!
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 26, 2012 03:26 PM |
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Bron
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Bron has 7x29999 Great Basiliscs, is that normal?
Yes,thats his army!
You dont have to wait a lot,just use the right spell!
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Mixxer5
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 04:17 PM |
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Quote:
The gloves issue is correct, no bug. For Pasis, I don't know what you did.
Can you upload a save from your game please so I can check what's going with him? The only thing which could prohibit Pasis from taking the portal is some cheat giving early army to Commodus or a very low game difficulty.
No cheats I swear (at least not at the beginning ). And I know that gloves are supposed to take all move points from me. Maybe it somehow "jumped" to Pasis I don't know how.
Saves (doesn't matter which one): https://rapidshare.com/files/4046955817/games.rar
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 26, 2012 07:38 PM |
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Yes Bron has a lot of basilisks, but nothing hard, you already have cast twice at that moment (doable even if once)
@Mixxer5: I specified in read me to not choose lower difficulties than 200%. As I see you play at 100%, I never tested the map with. Probably AI radius is heavily penalized and Pasis did not know where to go. I see he is stuck on the first hut, never experienced this. This is annoying because he has statue of legion, and you will not get it.
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BlueOrb
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 07:43 PM |
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 My army is 403AD at the moment, no such a awesome spells, my blessed AD kill about 400 GB. I will not ask if I have all that troops
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 26, 2012 07:46 PM |
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You are already at Bron? I fought him month 8 with MoS and had about 1998 devils, just checked save.
Anyway, Bron can be fought with 1 devil also (would take days still). Once the battlefield is covered by quick sands, he can do nothing but move 1 hex at once, he has not dispel.
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 07:48 PM |
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Isn't that Rust Dragon summoned by The Combo?! Don't remember having it at that fight!!!
For Bron I don't remember much, in my first play I met him too late so I just Implosion'ed him to oblivion without much thinking (several mil dmg already).
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BlueOrb
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 08:26 PM |
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Edited by BlueOrb at 20:29, 26 Mar 2012.
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That's my game.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 26, 2012 08:28 PM |
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Just checked map and Blue Orb is right, there is an error in mapmaking. Bron can be reached by monolith early, my bad, can't believe I did not see it earlier, thanks. Just ignore him, his turn is much later, after Piquedram etc.
The path where is the arrow should be closed.
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BlueOrb
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posted March 26, 2012 08:32 PM |
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I have saves before monolith so no much problem, I know that may kill him after one zillion rounds just asked if that's the way it should be.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 26, 2012 08:37 PM |
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Of course not, my BIG error, sorry. As Phoenixes blocked the path, I guess I did not move mouse enough to see if path is blocked. Bron is reachable on the other side, much later.
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tevez
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 26, 2012 09:28 PM |
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Edited by tevez at 21:29, 26 Mar 2012.
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update progess MOS:
M3W4D3: Zubin
M3W4D3: Mutare
M3W4D5: Ignatius
M3W4D6: Daremyth
Now, I have a trouble: figting with Risa, have to learn rebird and cast addition spell, 400 mithrill is to high at the moment  . AD hasn't got clone yet !!!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 26, 2012 10:20 PM |
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Insanely fast, I could not do same. Excellent play, Tevez, I am curious how will you handle Serena and Wistan when going at this rate. I found Wistan impossible to pass without at least 40% frenzy or luck+death blow every battle turn, which would require thousand loads. And 40% frenzy is impossible to get before month 7, except if EVERY cave visit gave resources, hard.
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BlueOrb
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 27, 2012 02:16 AM |
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Salamandre, is it possible that equation for ability Death Blow is somehow spoiled. I notice 2 things:
*it states at Ace level ADs will have chance 75% for Death Blow or in other words 3 out of 4 attack - in my game that is more like 20-25% or 1 out of 4/5 attacks
*when eventually ADs do Death Blow upon enemy troops damage is not double but only a bit more than normal, for example if they normally do 10-13k damage with Death Blow they do only 14k instead 20-26k.
Please could you check this?
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted March 27, 2012 02:29 AM |
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I was just reading JimV tests of death blow in Dragon Slaughter, and he confirms it is 50% at best (when scripted to occur 100%). I have no influence on this ability, it is hardcoded in WoG settings. I also think it doubles base damage (without experience bonus) but did not test it closely to check real values, because it can not be changed anyway without editing the executable.
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One thing I have tested, for another project, is the effect of the percent probability setting for Death Blow. In my tests, setting the value to 100% did not produce 100% Death Blows, in fact, the maximum rate of occurrence was more like 50%. I don't think any of the creatures who are programmed to learn Death Blow with experience (Swordsmen, Demons) have programmed values greater than 50%. Woodmelon's scripts apply a 100% value with EA:B, but I don't think it works (it did not for me, in my tests, and I had to use a different ERM method to gain control over the probability). It makes some sense to me that not every strike should be a Death Blow - to do double damage at every strike, why not just double the Damage parameters? A Death Blow should be a random, lucky event, I think.
See page 32 TDS thread.
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BlueOrb
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posted March 27, 2012 02:51 AM |
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That sounds fair enough to me, but it is rather misleading when you read description of this ability, don't you think 
I'm more than confident that you have nothing to do with this issue of WOG coders but asked for more observation.
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