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Thread: EMPIRE of the WORLD IV, play This thread is 97 pages long: 1 10 20 30 ... 31 32 33 34 35 ... 40 50 60 70 80 90 97 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 08, 2012 11:56 AM

Yona is a mod released by default with ERA, and it changes the damage display in battle-as seen in your screens-. Only visual change, and was disabled for TEW 2.0.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 08, 2012 05:33 PM

Just finished the fight against Halon, while his Phoenixes are jokes and can barely hurt ADs at all, his Fairie Dragons are just sickening. One Chain Lightning blows off 900 ADs instantly... And they resurrect for like... at least 5-6 times. Have to reload several times until they don't cast CL in the whole match (or at least till their numbers are lower).


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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 02:46 AM

I don't see any problem with Halon. He is late game and double cast should be used: frenzy then antimagic on devils. What is the purpose of adding faeries in a fight if the player reloads until they don't cast any destructive spell?
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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted April 09, 2012 03:03 AM

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I don't see any problem with Halon. He is late game and double cast should be used: frenzy then antimagic on devils. What is the purpose of adding faeries in a fight if the player reloads until they don't cast any destructive spell?

I cant unlock double cast when I attack Halon even Earth bonus !!! only 120 spell upgraded!!!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 03:17 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 03:33, 09 Apr 2012.

You must unlock earth bonus as fast as you can, because it is the Master of Speed special bonus. You will receive after each battle 1/3 more resources than other factions, thus will be able faster to unlock fire. Are you sure you upgraded all you can? In your last resources screen I see 16 possible upgrades, and not done.  Upgrade anything, not only useful spells, anything until you can unlock bonus.

On the other side, you play extremely fast, and AI is much weaker than in normal speed games, therefore you don't absolutely need double cast.
AI armies grow with time but month six they are weak, no speed bonus yet added.

Tevez, can you please upload your commodus.erm so I can check which version you are playing? It may need a few fixes for freelancer if ERA beta still. You need correct freelancer script for the four cavaliers quest.
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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted April 09, 2012 06:20 AM

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You must unlock earth bonus as fast as you can, because it is the Master of Speed special bonus. You will receive after each battle 1/3 more resources than other factions, thus will be able faster to unlock fire. Are you sure you upgraded all you can? In your last resources screen I see 16 possible upgrades, and not done.  Upgrade anything, not only useful spells, anything until you can unlock bonus.

On the other side, you play extremely fast, and AI is much weaker than in normal speed games, therefore you don't absolutely need double cast.
AI armies grow with time but month six they are weak, no speed bonus yet added.

Tevez, can you please upload your commodus.erm so I can check which version you are playing? It may need a few fixes for freelancer if ERA beta still. You need correct freelancer script for the four cavaliers quest.

I upgrade all spells as fast as possible. But know, about 4K resource per spell. So, I dont upgrade now. I downloaded last comodus.erp that u uploaded previous post, but I will upload when I come back home.
i will meet Halon in month 6, I hope can defeat him without double cast. I tested, four cavaliers quest is OK, only swordsman vs Peasant is difficult!!!

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 09, 2012 10:16 AM

Boragus

I am curious is Boragus a specialist in something as were the other five before him?
He began to fight without empty threats,directly,but he had very few spell points and didnt cast any spell.
I admit that I underestimated his darkness dragons and had to reload once.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 12:05 PM

He is ghost behemots master, level 4000+. Did not give him any spell, he is enough annoying without.
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revolut1oN
revolut1oN


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 12:09 PM

Kristjan, slow them, wait&hit, teleport far away, repeat many times. Easy as a piece of cake.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 09, 2012 01:15 PM

Cave

tevez,when you visited Cave of gods for the first time with MoS?
Do you remember when you manage to visit it with the other factions for the first time?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 01:20 PM

The randomness in caves makes approximative first visit time unpredictable.
If you get blood dragons or supreme phoenix, they can be visited early, if ghost behemots or archangels, you'll have to delay. Titans are the hardest.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 01:21 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 13:22, 09 Apr 2012.

@tev: Which version do you play?! Do you have Cornucopia upgrades?! After Thunar each Cornucopis give 400 resources per day, should be able to get Earth bonus at this point.

@Salamandre: Why only 1/3 bonus?! What about double ?! And the reason why I didn't use Anti Magic is because I keep forgetting that it can be Dispelled !!!

@ML: I don't have any troubles against Borgarius, Frenzy and take down one stack, Clone every round, use Efreet to shield and destroy him easily.

Anyway, MoW faction with 4 full up Cornucopias (Heroes are around lvl 50):


Hope there are some options in Cave of God to avoid getting resources, they are very redundant now !!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 09, 2012 01:25 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:35, 09 Apr 2012.

Probably Tevez is playing the version without cornucopia bonus. That's why I would need his erm file to fix this, so he can finish it fast.

Caves: see next post

I see that still no one likes horned demons. It is a pity because in the end, they get more powerful than devils, much more.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 01:28 PM

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Caves: to avoid any other bonus except creatures, attack them when your hero has one of stats >99. The reward will turn automatically into creatures. Did not work?

Well I remember using this way and still received bonus resources or something, could be wrong though...

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 01:30 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:35, 09 Apr 2012.

I just checked script. If one of stats is >99 you will get only creatures as bonus, never resources.

!!HE-1:F?y5/?y6/?y7/?y8; check hero stats
!!VRx4|y5=>99/y6=>99/y7=>99/y8=>99:S0; set x4 to zero if one of stats >99
!!if&x4=0:;  If Monster reward
[...]

x4 is holding random reward value (0-3). It will be reset to 0 and you get monsters.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 01:35 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 13:35, 09 Apr 2012.

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I see that still no one likes horned demons. It is a pity because in the end, they get more powerful than devils, much more.


The thing is I haven't fully upgraded them (speed very low). I'm also lazy to train them (use Mithrils to upgrade the town requiring 5000 Mithrils already but still not upgrade them), and now I have reached Magic Shop... Still can advance easily though.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted April 09, 2012 01:35 PM

Antimagic

alisapa,I keep forgetiing that too,thanks for reminding about dispel antimagic!!!
And if you get too much resources,you can always trade them in the mithril market!

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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 01:36 PM
Edited by alisapa1211 at 13:38, 09 Apr 2012.

Quote:
alisapa,I keep forgetiing that too,thanks for reminding about dispel antimagic!!!
And if you get too much resources,you can always trade them in the mithril market!


The point is, Caves of Gods give about 7-10k resources or something, which or take about 2-3 days of MoW faction to get !! Can't really compare to getting creatures here....

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted April 09, 2012 01:36 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 13:37, 09 Apr 2012.

By that time, you should have the medal of "bravery?" which disable dispel on your creatures. It comes from the four cavaliers quest.
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted April 09, 2012 01:38 PM

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By that time, you should have the medal of "something" which disable dispel on your creatures. It comes from the four cavaliers quest.


I still have no idea what four cavaliers quest is, I checked and know where Medal of Immunity is but can't reach it. Can you show me how to do it?

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