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Dexter
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posted May 12, 2012 11:43 AM |
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What I did like better, though, was the art direction. There are some obvious holes, but on the whole it's clear that the artists for H6 were more skilled than the ones for H5.
I have to strongly disagree with you on this one Aosaw. The art team that worked on Heroes V consisted of really talented and experienced people (actually a lot more experienced and renowned that those who worked on Heroes VI). Of course, you have the full right to dislike the art direction that Ubisoft choose for the game (i.e. the Warcraftish look) but it has nothing to do with the artists who created the concepts and their skills.
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JollyJoker
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posted May 12, 2012 01:27 PM |
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SKPRIMUS, it seems we talk past each other, it seems.
I brought up the resource reduction as an example for a very simple change - that has a lot of consequences. You can't just "erase" three resources and that's it. The game changes accordingly. The pace gets different, building feels different, decisions switch focus ... buildings, in this case the Market, suddenly have no value anymore the way they are.
Changes, as simple as they may seem, will set chain reactions of other changes into motion - IF the necessity for that is seen. And that means that you will have a lot more work to do than you may think.
Here it is important to be able to change things fast, so your programming must be accordinly flexible and open, so that you can test many things...
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El_Chita
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Actually, my name is El Chita
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posted May 12, 2012 01:31 PM |
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I want to vote for 3DO, why is it not an option?
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Zenofex
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Kreegan-atheist
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posted May 12, 2012 02:04 PM |
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted May 15, 2012 08:51 AM |
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I want to vote for 3DO, why is it not an option?
Because they held the same role with Heroes 1-4 that Ubisoft holds with this one.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted May 15, 2012 09:01 AM |
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Ha, I wish! Unfortunately, I won't get to see ubisoft go bankrupt anytime soon.
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SirLoccOtHaN
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posted April 20, 2013 02:20 PM |
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 Nival has done a tremendous job with the HoMM V TotE especialy !
There is lot of fun even today  And i think is the best HoMM EVER 
I wish they will do some of the HoMM saga in the near future with a lot of Castles real RMG and so on 
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olorin
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posted April 24, 2013 06:06 PM |
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Do not mess yourselves, my dear fellows. Ubisoft is the right answer. Nivals or Black holes are merely someone else's gardeners (as somebody pointed out above). If a company such Bethesda, Blizzard or Triumph Studios have picked up the project in a due time, a different result cames out, that's for sure... 
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Zenofex
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posted April 25, 2013 08:15 AM |
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don_komandorr
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posted April 25, 2013 08:57 PM |
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afaik BH had nothing to do with H6 art. The work on models were made buy 3 mages studio, so... BH's work was code.... Nival was better, BH did awful job.
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IbnWaliBarad
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posted April 25, 2013 10:12 PM |
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If the terrible Art direction is entirely Black Hole's fault, then it's by far the worst.
Original doesn't necessarily mean better than generic. In this case, everything is grotesque, overly ornamental and just plain ugly in most case.
The Necropolis was the biggest shock for me. They went from some generic, But kind of classy Neo gothic style, to a putrid, decaying egypto-babylonian style. From classiness to grotesqueness.
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted April 25, 2013 10:16 PM |
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If the terrible Art direction is entirely Black Hole's fault, then it's by far the worst.
I agree with your post, but AFAIK, H6's art were done by some random dude on deviantArt, contracted by Ubisoft.
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Vindicator
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Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted April 25, 2013 10:39 PM |
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But H6 has the best art out of any of the games....
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted April 25, 2013 10:40 PM |
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I will have to disagree sooo much.
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foxxxer
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posted April 25, 2013 10:54 PM |
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Edited by foxxxer at 22:56, 25 Apr 2013.
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But H6 has the best art out of any of the games....
Are you sarcastic or something
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted April 25, 2013 10:58 PM |
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Most detailed yes, best is highly debatable. The appeal of the H2 cartoonish and the H3 classic medieval style lies in their taste and simplicity. They did not desperately try to tell you they were awesome, they just were. While the H6 style is beautiful in its own way, I do not like the way it is overcompensating.
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SepSpring
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posted April 25, 2013 11:01 PM |
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But H6 has the best art out of any of the games....
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This one is the best in the series. Moreover, loading screens in the original "Heroes VI" are masterpieces.
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IbnWaliBarad
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posted April 25, 2013 11:03 PM |
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If the terrible Art direction is entirely Black Hole's fault, then it's by far the worst.
I agree with your post, but AFAIK, H6's art were done by some random dude on deviantArt, contracted by Ubisoft.
They were that cheap ? o_0
It really seems this game was made on a shoestring budget.
It did had that actually ''generic'' Deviant art feeling. That of an amateur graphic artist that tried too hard to look outlandish (yet end up doing the same style of designs than most of his peers).
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted April 25, 2013 11:09 PM |
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It is obviously subjective, but I personally dislike all of the art save for H5 (which was good save for the cartoonish part of it) and H6, which I find amazing.
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Avirosb
Promising
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No longer on vacation
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posted April 25, 2013 11:21 PM |
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It really seems this game was made on a shoestring budget.
Consider this; Most of the heroes have copy/paste armor, the artist was too lazy (or time-constrained) to come up with original designs for the Heroes (which led to the celebrity look-alike incident) and the town screens have obvious artistic flaws in regards to layouts and light sources.
The artist may or may not be an amateur with no past experience (deviantArt should not be used as an indicator here).
Judging by the art of H6, he (or she) is capable, but the art style is oh so generic.
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