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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 03, 2012 07:58 PM bonus applied by Elvin on 05 Sep 2012.
Edited by Abvgd at 18:55, 04 Jul 2012.

Petition to Ubisoft and Limbic

We’re preparing a petition to Ubisoft and Limbic for improving the game “Might and Magic: Heroes VI”!

Soon, 12th of July, Ubisoft and Limbic will release patch 1.5 with long-waited townscreens, which we, fans, have asked for! And such, there’s a big chance that proposals (or requests) which are supported by majority of fans, can be taken seriously by devs and be realized for reasons of cheering up fans, improving the game and raising interest to it.

There’re some steps we must cross before sending our petition:
1st: Fans send their suggestions of improving balance, bug fixes and other. The huge list is formed. Moderators remove from this list items that didn’t met the criteria.
2nd: Players sign (technically vote) for each item/paragraph. You must sign with your Uplay account. Items which don’t have support of more than half of players are removed.
3rd: Moderators form the list of most important suggestions taking the vote into account. Then the petition text is send to publisher.

Here you can send us your suggestions: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dExSVDdNeTh0NVNaTFpFMjNXeTRFeHc6MQ
There is a tab of suggestions in English: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuJShepNj77kdExSVDdNeTh0NVNaTFpFMjNXeTRFeHc
Here you can discuss this petition: http://www.heroes6.ru/f/showthread.php?t=674 and http://forums.ag.ru/?board=heroes6&action=display&s=0&num=1341325200&start=0#8 (both in Russian),
and, of course, there: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/688236-Petition-to-Ubisoft-and-Limbic?p=8439280#post8439280,
http://www.celestialheavens.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=333802#333802

The voice of one man is the voice of no one, as well as ten's voice in our situation. Because of that we ask you to drive our numbers to the max. You can use your Twitter, Facebook or Vkontakte accounts, other social networks and Heroes VI forums.
About suggestions: first of all, they must have logic base and don’t be impossible to realize (remember, there’re 15 people from relatively new team working on Heroes VI). Secondly, try to make them as concrete as you could. For example, don’t suggest making more difference between perks and skills and variants of realization of that because even if that idea will have great support of fans, devs wouldn’t know what we want from them exactly.
“Fix bugs” also is too vague. But “fix ability X so that in situation Y it will work like Z” is more as concrete.

Thanks for your support!

Moderators of this forum: please, make this thread sticky. This is not radical petition, we're just gathering people's suggestions and proposals.
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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 04, 2012 05:40 PM
Edited by Abvgd at 17:43, 04 Jul 2012.

c'mon, guys, there is a big chance to say to game developers what do you want to be improved in the game!
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War-overlord
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posted July 04, 2012 05:50 PM

Nothing personal, but isn't this exactly what the VIP fans are for and are doing since the beginning of their invitation?

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Elvin
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posted July 04, 2012 06:02 PM

The more certain ideas are voiced the better.
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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 04, 2012 06:26 PM
Edited by Abvgd at 18:29, 04 Jul 2012.

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Nothing personal, but isn't this exactly what the VIP fans are for and are doing since the beginning of their invitation?



There is no any activity from them. Their's interest is too "pale".  But this petition can gather all fan's suggestion in short period of time!
Are you shurely not want to see the game more interesting by realizations of your good ideas? (which you can say us here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dExSVDdNeTh0NVNaTFpFMjNXeTRFeHc6MQ)
Don't bury Heroes6! Let it to be improved!
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Elvin
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posted July 04, 2012 06:29 PM

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There is no any activity from them. Their's interest is too "pale".

That, I take issue with. You are mistaken is all I can say.
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Abvgd
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posted July 04, 2012 06:31 PM

Don't hesitate to make a suggestion! All your ideas - important for the game
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yasmiel
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posted July 04, 2012 06:36 PM

While I'm always in support of anything that can benefit M&M franchise, I feel this is not the best time for this.

We can finally see some movement with game development (content and patching wise) so i feel we should give them a chance to give out what they have now. We might even end positively surprised after seeing things that they already have in the time-table.

On the other hand - If things slow down again soon, then I would feel that it's a good time for attempts to restart activity by petitions or some similar kinds of efforts.

In any case, hopefully it works out for you guys.

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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 04, 2012 06:48 PM

Yasmiel, of course developing of the game is mooving, but there is still a lot of things, that Ubisoft and Limbic don't take seriously or even unaware what wee all need in the game to be realized! We can help them by gathering all good suggestions from fans!
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demonge
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posted July 04, 2012 09:44 PM

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There is no any activity from them. Their's interest is too "pale".

That, I take issue with. You are mistaken is all I can say.

Neh, don't bother.
That's juste the usual 'I would have done it better' line.
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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 04, 2012 09:53 PM
Edited by Abvgd at 21:56, 04 Jul 2012.

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That's juste the usual 'I would have done it better' line.

Not "I", but - "We", not "would have done it better", but - "would like to see in the game"
This petition - isn't smth radikal, it's just a big and informative hint for game developers.
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Dave_Jame
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posted July 05, 2012 06:22 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 06:23, 05 Jul 2012.

Can't hurt if you share your opinions. Better to use the oportunity then brag about bad condition on forums. I stated my opinions into the petition a whyle ago when the page was new, The only thing I do not know, is if I done it in a proper way, so my contribution did not get deleted.
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posted July 05, 2012 08:43 AM

Can't hurt to give it a try, i dont think one big wishlist is a bad idea.

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Abvgd
Abvgd

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posted July 05, 2012 05:51 PM
Edited by Abvgd at 17:53, 05 Jul 2012.

Now you can also discuss this news (the petition) here: http://hommka.ru/threads/2/ (english and russian languages are available)

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abvgd
abvgd

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posted July 11, 2012 05:27 PM

The sending of suggestion will be closed on 4pm, 17th July (by Paris Time).

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hobo2
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posted July 11, 2012 07:15 PM

The problem is that Heroes VI is garbage all the way down. You can't "patch" it into being good, because every part of it is rubbish.

Let's take Luck: Luck is terribad. Every point of Luck is a lot smaller than a point of attack. It adds less damage and it's hard to plan around and it doesn't boost your warcries. It's awful. When the game released, the luck damage boosts didn't even trigger and somehow the devs thought this was OK. They fixed that. But Luck is still bad and the luck faction still sucks. You can tweak the luck faction up in various ways, but it keeps coming back to the fact that Luck being fubar isn't a programming issue (or at least, not only a programming issue), it is a design issue. The Luck attribute is garbage as designed. Anyone who had played around with the core damage equations run the basic math could have told you that Luck was horrendously underpowered even before finding out that attack skill also boosted warcries or spells. The design of the core damage equation and its interaction with the Luck attribute is fundamentally unsound.

And this is equally true about, well, everything. Darkness resistance didn't work correctly when the product shipped, but when they "fixed" it to work according to the design it was terribad and its interactions with the Necro faction and Darkness Elementals was a travesty.

Heroes VI is a bad game. Fiddling with the details will just make it a bad game that has details fiddled with. Ubisoft doesn't need to be rewarded for messing up this badly by having us buy their stuff and beg and plead to get minor fixes to tertiary problems and factions that by all rights should have been in the basic game on launch - they should be boycotted until they stop serving us fundamentally broken products held together with a thin gruel. And if they decide that enough people are boycotting them that the license isn't worth holding on to - good. Because I can't imagine that anyone else who got a hold of the license would treat their fanbase this badly. Even if another company screwed up the numbers this badly, at least they probably wouldn't have DRM that kicked you out of the game every half an hour because their servers were temperamental.

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odium


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posted July 15, 2012 01:47 AM
Edited by odium at 01:49, 15 Jul 2012.

They should start thinking about multiplayer as well. Single player is fine but after 3 months from release a game is still popular if it has good MP. Heroes 6 MP scene is dead for obvious reasons. Given the innate flows of the game it will probably never reach the level of H3, H4 or H5 but it doesn't mean that it cannot at least be ressurected.

-They badly need to introduce the option to play fan made maps in multiplayer
-They need to implement simultaneous turns
-They need to implement duel games in Hotseat mode
-They need to continue to improve balance because as of 1.5.1 the game did not reach the optimum level that is possible to achieve from it
-****ing fix the bug where the defending hero is unable to press W and D for wait and defend (this is here since the beta)
-They need to improve the map editor

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nocognize
nocognize

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posted August 04, 2012 05:58 PM

We are glad to announce that voting is ready. Please, follow this link and vote for your favourite paragraphs. Yeah, there's many of them, but the game itself is  versatile and diverse!
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Dave_Jame
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posted August 04, 2012 06:05 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 18:12, 04 Aug 2012.

Quote:
We are glad to announce that voting is ready. Please, follow this link and vote for your favourite paragraphs. Yeah, there's many of them, but the game itself is  versatile and diverse!


The Options are made in a really bad way
for 1 I can't chose two or more options in all questions. in the Town conversion question I would like to chose a combination of more features.

For 2 Answers to all questions nescesary!!! I do not think Naga Waterwalk ability is that overpowerd... and I disagree in many parts with the servy.. pleas fix this in order for all people to state their opinion....
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nocognize
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posted August 04, 2012 07:04 PM
Edited by nocognize at 19:15, 04 Aug 2012.

Quote:
Quote:
We are glad to announce that voting is ready. Please, follow this link and vote for your favourite paragraphs. Yeah, there's many of them, but the game itself is  versatile and diverse!


The Options are made in a really bad way
for 1 I can't chose two or more options in all questions. in the Town conversion question I would like to chose a combination of more features.

For 2 Answers to all questions nescesary!!! I do not think Naga Waterwalk ability is that overpowerd... and I disagree in many parts with the servy.. pleas fix this in order for all people to state their opinion....

Sorry for inconveniences, but some of the points are really contradictory so we can`t permiss to choose more then one point in such questions. The only thing that i can advice you is to choose the point which greater suits to your opinion.
And we fixed a moment with neceserry questions. On the first page you are able to skip any question you want.
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