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Elodin
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posted July 03, 2012 11:21 PM |
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Egypt: The next sponser of Islamic terrorism?
As most of you probably know, the Muslim Brotherhood candidate won the presidency of Egypt. The MB is a terrorist organization.
During the new leader's inauguration speech he has called for the US to release a cleric who masterminded the mass murderer of US citizens. This does not bode well.
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Egypt's new government is sparking growing outrage in the U.S. for its attempts to win the release of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind cleric behind the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.
In Cairo, President-elect Mohamed Morsi proclaimed to hundreds of thousands of supporters in Tahir Square on Friday that he will gain the release of Rahman, who is in a federal prison in North Carolina after having been convicted of masterminding the bombing that killed six and unsuccessfully plotting to blow up other landmarks, including the United Nations.
Although a U.S. official told FoxNews.com the sheik will never be freed, the fact that Egypt's newly-installed Muslim Brotherhood government is asking has top elected officials here seething.
“It’s disgusting for a head of government to state in his inaugural speech that a man who attempted to commit mass murder should be freed,” Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told FoxNews.com. “The fact that he said this in his first speech says to me that this is from the heart, and the Muslim Brotherhood has been trying to convince us that they have changed.
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Salamandre
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posted July 03, 2012 11:31 PM |
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It is a pity, Egypt was on a safe way of mass healing from fanaticism, and now is gone. Muslims, either they will take the world or they will end being nuked by Israel, I have no faith in that side of the world.
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blizzardboy
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posted July 04, 2012 02:21 AM |
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The MB is not classified as a terrorist organization. It consists of a very large tent of people that spans across nations. Individuals that identify themselves with the MB that also happen to be proponents of terrorism does not mean the MB is a terrorist organization.
About statements like these: patience is a virtue. Figureheads are first and foremost - perhaps before even their executive responsibilities - gargantuan PR agents. They say a lot of **** in the course of holding their post. A lot. What really matters is what they actually end up pursuing. I'm reminded of another recent example with how the president of Argentina gave a pep talk about how the Falklands belongs to them and that it's their inheritance, blah blah blah, yet they haven't done anything rash, nor almost surely will they do anything rash.
You just need to wait and see how this ends up panning out, but it does indeed seem pretty evident that Egypt isn't going to be abundantly cooperative with Israel.
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Seraphim
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posted July 05, 2012 01:50 PM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 14:13, 05 Jul 2012.
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It is a pity, Egypt was on a safe way of mass healing from fanaticism, and now is gone. Muslims, either they will take the world or they will end being nuked by Israel, I have no faith in that side of the world.
Haha, just wait for extensive sharia laws, jihad on israel and the west.
Seriously, the word "Brotherhood" cries for women bigotry and fanaticism.
If anything, it will be the six day war all over again, except this time it might last way shorter.
Sadly, I never visited egypt and those pyramids. I once heard that MB will demolish the pyramids because they are evidence of the false gods!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2077964/The-Salafist-partys-plan-Pyramids--cover-wax.html
I really hope israel invades the place,seriously I grow tired of Islamofascists spewing crap that their religion is the truth.
The best these crackpots can come up with is the release of a wannabe mass murderer.
This reminds me of this:
Murphy's law "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong"
My version "Everything will go wrong!".
So, what was the point of supporting the arab spring again? Establishing theocracies?
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del_diablo
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posted July 05, 2012 04:05 PM |
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Because Western Indirect Democracy with 18+ dempgraphic voting age: is a holy cow, with almost 100 years of glorious history.
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xerox
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posted July 05, 2012 07:02 PM |
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I'm MUCH MUCH more worried about Elodin's Republican Party seizing power than the Muslim Brotherhood's Moderate Islam.
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Elodin
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posted July 06, 2012 01:04 AM |
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I'm MUCH MUCH more worried about Elodin's Republican Party seizing power than the Muslim Brotherhood's Moderate Islam.
I'm an independent conservative, not a Republican.  But there is no reason to think the Republican party would seek to seize power. On the other hand, the dems......
The Muslim Brotherhood has a history of supporting terrorism. and the inaugural speech certainly indicates that they still do in fact support terrorism.
FBI Chief: Muslim Brotherhood Supports Terrorism
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xerox
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posted July 06, 2012 01:41 AM |
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Wow, really? They are NOT terrorists. Do you have any evidence at all supporting that? Also, the Muslim Brotherhood isn't one big collective group. I can assure you that neither the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt nor 99% of all muslims approve of al-Qaeda and groups like that. Now I don't like political groups that are based on religion and I think its a pity that the moderate-religious parties have won in these countries, but its important to not be intolerant and prejudiced.
I would suggest that you read up on the egyptian organisation with an objective perspective and also read up on who Mohamed Mursi is.
And yeah, I think that the next American president being a Republican is a much, much greater threat to world security than the Muslim Brotherhood winning democratic elections in Egypt.
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Seraphim
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posted July 06, 2012 10:18 AM |
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And yeah, I think that the next American president being a Republican is a much, much greater threat to world security than the Muslim Brotherhood winning democratic elections in Egypt.
Why are you so afraid of republicans? You think they will cause problems worldwide because of Iran and such? In fact they have many good points against Obama and obamacare and the foreign policy of the US does not change that much, or so I believe, party to party.
The irony and the dilemma of Egypt is that they are given the oppurtunity to run democratic elections and the best they can support is a theocratic terrorist party and they say Mubarak was bad...
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Doomforge
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posted July 06, 2012 10:29 AM |
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As long as it's not McCain or warmongers like him, it shouldn't be that bad.
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Zenofex
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posted July 06, 2012 10:39 AM |
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The US is already preparing for a strike against Iran, Obama or no Obama. I'm actually curious what will happen if the war starts. Iran is not the internally divided Iraq or the backwater Afghanistan.
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xerox
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posted July 06, 2012 10:40 AM |
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Just because it is an islamic party doesn't mean it's terrorist.
Is Angela Merkel a terrorist because she leads a christian democratic party?
Are the american Republican party religious fundamentalists too?
The last republican president kept talking about the christian god favoring the US and forces of evil and crazy stuff like that. I'd say that the things he is responible for, are way worse than anything the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has done.
I doubt very much that a war in Iran would happen. It would be a hundred times the scale of the lost conflicts in Afghanistan. Plus, this time - the world including China and Russia isn't going to approve of it.
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Seraphim
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posted July 07, 2012 10:54 AM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 11:36, 07 Jul 2012.
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Just because it is an islamic party doesn't mean it's terrorist.
Most of the times, yes.
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Is Angela Merkel a terrorist because she leads a christian democratic party?
Angela Merkel is a christian conservative. She is no better than the republicans or MB for that regard. The only difference is the level of standards we have here. Obviously, Merkel cant go into the public and declare to "Burn people at stake" if they work on Sundays. In egypt, islamic laws can make that happen, obviously for islamic "Transgressions".
Dunno about america, but the patriot act sounds awfully similar to this.
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Are the american Republican party religious fundamentalists too?
The last republican president kept talking about the christian god favoring the US and forces of evil and crazy stuff like that. I'd say that the things he is responible for, are way worse than anything the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt has done.
Yes, most republicans are just the same fanatics, believing in creationism, satan and bloody marry. The difference is that america has secular laws,or so I believe, and a separation of church and state.
As for MB,they are new so just wait. Crap like sharia, jihad and new terrorists are coming.
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I doubt very much that a war in Iran would happen. It would be a hundred times the scale of the lost conflicts in Afghanistan. Plus, this time - the world including China and Russia isn't going to approve of it.
You would be surprised. A less guerrilla based army is easier to defeat.Russia and China are no factor at all. They are just like biased media outlets, screaming about injustice while having no problem performing crimes themselves. If you believe Russia or China a real powers, then think in this way,they are not going to go on a military confrontation with a nuclear state. They can only whine when a nuclear state does something just like a nuclear state whines when they do something.
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