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Thread: Grave Political Abuse in Romania
LizardWarrior
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posted July 06, 2012 03:34 AM

Grave Political Abuse in Romania

It all started Monday,after getting majority in parliament,social-liberal union changed abusively the president of Senate and the president of Deputies Chamber(they were liberal democrats).This is illegal,only the party from where the presidents belong can suspend them.The president of senate is now national liberal leader,Crin Antonescu(also co-leader of the social-liberal union). The government(also of the social-liberal union) eliminated the People's Advocate(he could attack their decision and declare it illegal and non-constitutional). The same government put the Official Monitor in the suborder of government and drastically limited the abilities of Constitutional Court(illegal of course) so no one can attack their abusive decision.

Now they want to suspend the president as they have the majority in parliament.This is also illegal,the president can be suspended only if he violated the constitution or he's accused for corruption.They also changed the law(again abusively) to can suspend the president easily with only 50%+1 votes instead of 9 millions.

The social-"democrats"(part of the social-liberal union) are known for their mafia:Adrian Nastase(arrested not a long time ago,tried to commit suicide but failed,now he's in a prison's hospital),Sorin Ovidiu Vantu(also arrested recently).

I believe that these political abuses and rush for power are also because the social-democrat mafia is begin arrested and they want to control the state and the justice to stop the investigations.

The political instability costs Romania 1 million euros a day.Yesterday the national currency(leul) reached the historic minimal of 4.5 lei for an euro.That's not all,because of the violation of constitution Romania is about to be excluded from the European Union.

These events reminds me of the beginning of the 3rd Reich and of the Nazi Germany.If these abuses doesn't stop,Romania will have again dictatorship like before '89.Yesterday were held protests in capital,but I'm afraid they didn't change anything...

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Salamandre
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posted July 09, 2012 12:16 AM

A large majority of romanian are for the president suspension, according to search. The law says a president can be suspended if he violates constitution or misconduct. Politically speaking, we can't accuse him of neither one or other, but the country is ruined and life quality drastically dropped since he took the power.

Consider the following: if someone nearby is in danger and you don't help, the law will punish you. Same concept should be considered for catastrophic politics, and the sentence should be even more harsh, as there are way more than one life in danger. I see no point to keep such guy if he does not accomplish what he is supposed to.

Now, I am not living there, just talk to my family and got part of  design. You surely know better.

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posted July 09, 2012 04:46 AM

i'm so happy I live in scandinavia which seems like the only place in the world where poltiics aren't stuffed with corruption, hatred and foul play
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posted July 09, 2012 04:55 AM

Oh they are xerox, they so are.
We are just that much better at hiding it.
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LizardWarrior
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posted July 09, 2012 05:20 AM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 05:21, 09 Jul 2012.

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A large majority of romanian are for the president suspension, according to search. The law says a president can be suspended if he violates constitution or misconduct. Politically speaking, we can't accuse him of neither one or other, but the country is ruined and life quality drastically dropped since he took the power.

Consider the following: if someone nearby is in danger and you don't help, the law will punish you. Same concept should be considered for catastrophic politics, and the sentence should be even more harsh, as there are way more than one life in danger. I see no point to keep such guy if he does not accomplish what he is supposed to.

Now, I am not living there, just talk to my family and got part of  design. You surely know better.


The President didn't violated the constitution,but the government,yes.Lots of Romanians are angry on president because of the austerity measures,but without these measures the inflation would be enormous.

Life quality dropped because of the financial crises,not because of the president.If president is the cause,why his 1st mandate was good and life quality didn't dropped then?

Plus,social-liberal union uses 2 politicized tv channels to say the President is the cause,not the financial crisis.

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i'm so happy I live in scandinavia which seems like the only place in the world where poltiics aren't stuffed with corruption, hatred and foul play


Where politicians are,corruption surely is.Believe me

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Salamandre
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posted July 09, 2012 05:34 AM

The "austerity" measure is the modern excuse for hiding incompetent governments. I hear this constantly in France as well.

As for Romania, there is a long and obscure tradition of a complete lack of respect towards the people, on the other side the gov members are living like Pashas. When 99% of your people can't afford to end their month decently, asking them for austerity is shocking.

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posted July 09, 2012 03:22 PM

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Life quality dropped because of the financial crises,not because of the president

because of decisions taken by governments. and I'm not sure the financial crisis is an accident...

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LizardWarrior
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posted July 29, 2012 10:15 AM

Today is the referendum day.Let's hope the Romanian People aren't blind.

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posted July 29, 2012 03:51 PM

But they are, and rather powerless too.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted June 14, 2013 10:49 AM

Now I'm convinced that only foreign administration can save this country. It has done so in the past, from 1866 to 1947. We all know what happened afterwards...
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LizardWarrior
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posted June 15, 2013 02:43 AM

Foreign administration isn't the solution, we still have capable people within the borders, it's just the "angry mob" that it's easily hypnotized by some s****y televisions like Antena 3. At least some people woke up and started protesting against the social-liberal govern. How we say in Romania:" Au vrut USL, acum sa se spele pe cap cu el"

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Drakon-Deus
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posted June 15, 2013 02:44 AM

But the honest people will never be elected here, only the corrupt ones. Why do you think Iliescu was president for so long?
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posted June 15, 2013 02:54 AM

Iliescu was one of Ceausescu's "henchmen", but at the revolution he "washed his hands" and changed the sides and appeared like "the leader" of the revolution, this move confused people to vote him as president, not once, but twice.

We had a deputy here in my county, his name is Ion Cupa, we was a candidate from ARD, but as soon as he won the elections he moved to USL. Traitors, traitors everywhere, shame on me because I voted him.

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Drakon-Deus
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posted June 15, 2013 03:01 AM

Decent people shouldn't live here. We would be happier someplace else.
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