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Seraphim
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posted July 17, 2012 12:47 AM bonus applied by Corribus on 17 Jul 2012.
Edited by Seraphim at 03:26, 17 Jul 2012.

Anyone suffering from mental disorders?

The title says it all actually.
This question comes from the fact that as a child and up untill in the highschool I had the "Pleasure" to experince what OCD is. In case you dont know, OCD(Obsessive compulsive disorder) is a mental disorder associated with repetition of a specific behavior. The reason why that behavior is made is because the sufferer thinks that it prevents a major bad thing from happening, like failure, death of a loved one etc.

Its like if you dont repeat a specific behavior a specific ammount of time, somebody or your will suffer something bad.
In that case, the sufferer lives in a mind prison reflected onto the real world. The same has happened to me.

One of my obsessions was switches like lamp switches. If I had a good day, I would think that because of the specific switch position ON-OFF, I entered the right "Dimension" where I am sucessful.
I thought I was something special, I thought only I understand what dimensions are and they affect only me.
"Dimensions" were the same reality I lived in but with different "Luck or success rules" for me and only me. If I was in a bad dimension, that meant eternal failure,suicidal thoughts and bad luck for me.

When things went bad, I immediately changed my "dimension" by  pushing a switch. That was not everything, not only switches changed dimensions, but touching anything did aswell. So the only way to stay in a specific dimension was to touch everything two times.
Again,this is not everything. My dimensions irreversibly changed when I went to through a specific road. Say, if I went to school through another road, that changed my dimension and thus I had to go back home onto the same road.

Now imagine having to explain my behavior to all other people through  reasoning. "I was late because I wanted to buy a choclate" (If that road had a market) or "I touched it two times because I thought it was broken" or "I switched the computer on because I wanted to look into something but forgot to close it!".

I was alone with this,nobody was on my side.
One day, I came across the wikipedia article of OCD. I read through it and found out that most of the symptomes are related to me.
I began to question my behaviour. I asked "Why the hell am I cursed with this?" "Why should everything I do be dependent on these?"
It took me 6 months to experiment with different dimensions and thus finding out they had no effect whatsoever.

After the six months,I was free from the terror of the disease.
I found out I was suffering from an uncurable mental disease and that the only way to treat it is to not "Believe" in it.
Its still manifesting itself but very rarely. I know the truth and thus I am not suffering from the disease.
I find it interesting that I all of this happened without a psychologist and that as a teenager.


Sadly,I dont think it really ends there. As I grew and became intellectually more capable I found out alot more about some other behavioral problems. Apparently, mental diseases are rarely singular. We are not talking about one but maybe 2 or 3. However,I firmly believe that I am mentally healthy.

Lastly,I wasted to share my story because its something I have not shared with anybody because of the stigma this would cause. People are quick to laugh and use anything to lubricate their dopamine receptors.
One more thing, I can guarantee that mental disorders can be as damaging if not even more than physical ones.

Thanks.

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DarkShadow
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posted July 17, 2012 08:05 AM

Schizoid personality disorder

Tendencies to Antisocial personality disorder

So, uhm, yeah. I don't know what more to say here since I answered the question.

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Adrius
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posted July 17, 2012 08:46 AM

I bet I have at least a few, the fact that I'm considered "normal" right now is just because science just hasn't evolved enough yet.

Like earlier, kids with ADHD were just considered "wild", now they have a diagnosis and everything.

If I was born in the future I might've had like, JXTI diagnosis or something, I dunno.
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posted July 17, 2012 08:50 AM

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ADHD


Amphetamines help.. Norwegian share of amphetamines for ADHD patients.. The initial weight loss drug, people buy too much..
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Adrius
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posted July 17, 2012 08:54 AM

Yeah I don't have ADHD man.
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posted July 17, 2012 08:56 AM

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Yeah I don't have ADHD man.


What's to worry?
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Elvin
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posted July 17, 2012 09:42 AM

Thanks for sharing, this is an interesting look into mental illness psychology. You might find the following quote interesting.

The mind, according to Eckhart Tolle, "creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgements and definitions." These mental constructs are the currency with which the mind operates, and the ego relates to these constructs rather than directly to the realities they represent. And so he says that this "opaque screen" both "blocks all true relationships" and "creates the illusion of separateness." We no longer feel at one with all that is (even if we believe we are); we feel separated, as if "there is you and a totally separate other." Reality is frequently at odds with how the mind believes things ought to be. As a result the ego has to counter constant challenges to its identity and its hopes for fulfilment. This gives rise to the ego's defence mechanisms, and becomes a "habitual resistance to or denial of what is."

More here, it is a book I'd recommend to anyone.

In short, the mind tends to shape things so as to establish and relate to what it perceives your own identity: You are that man, with those values, with this taste in clothes, with a hatred or love for those people. And I have every reason to believe that we subconsciously project our own desires, fears, wishes and expectations on things or people, to classify them according to our ego. That can give a very distorted idea of what something truly is and what we perceive it to be. Then again reality is subjective It is good that you saw through and broke free from yours, that is never an easy thing to do.
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Doomforge
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posted July 17, 2012 09:44 AM

Antisocial personality disorder, some elements of psychopathy.

Yeah I'm fun.
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Xerox
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posted July 17, 2012 10:19 AM

yeah im pretty convinced I have a severe psychological disorder even today.

I was being bullied when I was 10 to 12 years old. It completly broke me down and turned me into an extremly lonely (still pretty lonely), suicidal, sociophobic person. Only now, 5 years after it ended, I'm fully starting to recover. It certainly completly changed me though. Both for the worse, and for the better (because I'm a much stronger person now). I remember crying every day to sleep and I constantly fantisized about ways to kill myself. It's a miracle I survived it, but I guess I knew things would change for the better. What angers me today, is that NOBODY seemed to notice that I was being bullied.

Sure, I never really said anything because I didn't want to talk about the mean things they said to me. Instead they thought I, who was the victim, had a mental disorder. They never ever told me, but I've always been an intelligent, aware kid and could put the pieces together. I remember that once, my teacher asked me to leave class and we went to a room in the basement. There, they wanted me to play with toys. Toys. I had played HoMM3 since I was 4 years old. I did not play wih toys. I was in school to work and study, not to play. I thought it was absolutely ridiculous and refused to play their game.

I also remember finding hidden notes at home which my teacher had given to my father and it said things like "No cats" (I liked cats - a lot and got bullied for it, rumors that I find to be absolutely ridiculous today spread like that I licked my cat to wash her). My teacher also wanted me to write a diary. She knew I was a very, very good writer for that age (I wrote 100-page WoW fanfics when I was 12) and I guess she wanted to know my feelings since I never said anything because I felt so ashamed to be called stuff like a snow all the time (which is hilarious today, considering that I DID turn out to become a snow a few years later). What I remember writing is feeling very lonely and that I considered a guy named Martin to be my best friend. One day, he visisted us and he found it. I tried desperatly to keep it from him, but he locked himself into the bathroom and read it. But he was understanding and we have always been friends.

To this day, I wonder what they thought of me back then. Did they really think that I had a mental disorder instead of noticing that I had a mental breakdown because of two years of bulliying?
I did attempt to do a suicide once so maybe that had something to do with it. I think I'm gonna ask my mum about it now. I have heard her saying that I "turned completly crazy and nuts for a while", so I actually don't think anybody knew how bad and incredibly depressed I felt. I was 10 years old and my highest wish was to die.

Today, I got an eight year old half-sister who I am CONVINCED of that she has ADHD or aspberger or both but mum says she already checked her lol. She's eight years old, yells a lot and abuses me, can't take critiscm, gets pissed off really fast, is extremly melodramatic and doesn't know when to stop.
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Doomforge
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posted July 17, 2012 10:23 AM

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I remember that once, my teacher asked me to leave class and we went to a room in the basement.


I decided not to read the rest for the sake of my sanity
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted July 17, 2012 10:24 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 12:39, 17 Jul 2012.

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Antisocial personality disorder, some elements of psychopathy.

Yeah I'm fun.


Well your avatar represents you rather well.
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Elvin
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posted July 17, 2012 11:42 AM

That reminds me, I was bullied in highschool myself and it felt incredibly frustrating. No surprise given that I wasn't much of a social person in that I didn't fit in as well as others and I was too calm and reserved for my own good - a boring good boy. In retrospect it helped me toughen up and learn a few things about people so it was probably for the best. Thankfully it did not scar me in any way and I never kept any hard feelings. For long ^^
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posted July 17, 2012 02:52 PM

I've already fallen in love. you know, when you can't stop thinking about a specific girl. well, I'm quite sure it's a mental disorder.

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Lord_Woock
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posted July 17, 2012 03:47 PM

Wow, that's quite a bunch of loons here! I've been repeatedly told I probably have Asperger's syndrome and should get diagnosed, but apparently that isn't even a real thing and I needn't worry. So yeah, my mind is perfectly healthy despite some people claiming otherwise.
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posted July 17, 2012 04:24 PM

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And so he says that this "opaque screen" both "blocks all true relationships" and "creates the illusion of separateness." We no longer feel at one with all that is (even if we believe we are); we feel separated, as if "there is you and a totally separate other."
What can I expect from a book called "The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment" but nonsense like this? I'm not surprised Oprah has recommended it. It's the same holistic New Age junk that's been peddled to gullible people for years.
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posted July 17, 2012 05:00 PM

There are no normal people, only different levels of crazy.
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Meroe
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posted July 17, 2012 05:04 PM

Ahh I know how you feel (well mostly), Seraphim.  Typical child of the 90's here.  Medicated for ADHD (in order for me to be allowed to attend a 'normal' school and not a 'special' one ... wow gee thanks).  Some OCD (although I'm much much better now lol).  

The problem is when you say 'mental disorders' people automatically tend to think you mean that you are crazy.  So you tend to clam up and not tell people unless it becomes an issue.  

I will come clean and admit I have been medicated for severe depression and insomnia for almost 10 years now.  So while most kids were happily going to school and getting worn out, I was drugged up to my eyeballs during the day (semi comatose) and then unable to sleep at night.  Being 12 years old and on ritalin and valium quite frankly should be illegal.  And while you eventually grow out of the more hyperactive stages with ADHD (most do), the long term effects still mess things up.  I've never needed to take drugs for a high, because I can assure you that after 4 days of no sleep, you trip like you wouldn't believe.

Its a long hard haul battling depression.  The rational side of you berates yourself "what are you upset/panicked/stressed about, stop being stupid", you actually realize you have a problem.  Yet the physical and uncontrollable side just cannot be dealt with naturally.  And no amount of counselling makes it any better.  And when it gets to the stage were no-one can help, you feel so  lost/alone and frightened and you start wishing you were no longer alive and even start working out the most effective way to kill yourself, its only then that the drugs (balancing the chemicals in your brain) can alleviate the problem.  I can honestly say I need my medication.  I don't like that I have to have it.  I hate it, but I need it.  Plain and simple.

Its taken quite a lot of moral courage to admit this actually.  Its not usually something I tell strangers, but I love HC and there is a certain amount of security here.  

At least attitudes regarding mental health/mental disorders is a lot better now.  Lots of people suffer from stress and mild forms of depression throughout their lives for many different reasons - bereavement/job loss etc, but these are temporary problems and they then get themselves back on track.  And the more empathic of those recognize the real problems that others have when it becomes a full blown mental disorder.  The more insensitive tend to belittle.

There is no one way to deal with mental disorders, medication/counselling/therapy etc all work individually.  But one of the best things is to recognize you have an issue and try to find a way of not allowing it rule your life completely.  And a lot of the time you can only get that with medication.
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posted July 17, 2012 05:44 PM
Edited by markkur at 17:46, 17 Jul 2012.

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Lastly,I wanted to share my story because its something I have not shared with anybody because of the stigma this would cause. People are quick to laugh and use anything to lubricate their dopamine receptors.


Thanks for sharing, <imo> you have very good instincts to venture-outward, hope it helps. Talk-therapy is far too often not recognized as needed by MDs, resulting in many patients remaining trapped alone with their thoughts,fears etc. I have met too many people (one is too much)over the years that are told to take pills but nothing else.

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One more thing, I can guarantee that mental disorders can be as damaging if not even more than physical ones.Thanks.


Absolutely. Mind, Body and Spirit are all linked. i.e Hit your thumb with a hammer and your mind says "you just hit your thumb!", your vocal cords yell...arrrgh!(or other words) and your spirit may become rather "testy"

Never forget the old adage, "laughter's good medicine". I'll add; it usually needs another person on-board but it's OK if sometimes it doesn't.

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posted July 17, 2012 05:59 PM

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And so he says that this "opaque screen" both "blocks all true relationships" and "creates the illusion of separateness." We no longer feel at one with all that is (even if we believe we are); we feel separated, as if "there is you and a totally separate other."
What can I expect from a book called "The Power of Now: A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment" but nonsense like this? I'm not surprised Oprah has recommended it. It's the same holistic New Age junk that's been peddled to gullible people for years.


much more than years
I've never read eckhart tolle, but it sounds very much like krishnamurti.

well, it makes sense to me, even if it is hard to understand, I mean, you should get rid of that opaque screen to really understand.
there might be a process of transformation of the brain involved, I read that about krishnamurti, and it seems that a similar event happened to eckhart. not sure if everyone could withstand it?

basically, the opaque screen, it is the way we interpret the world. notice that he talks about TRUE relationships, if he means like krishnamurti, that means that we don't have direct relationships.

"Have you ever looked at your wife, or your husband, or your children, or yourneighbor, or your boss, or at any of the politicians? If you have, what is seen?The image you have about a person, the image you have about your politicians,the prime minister, your god, your wife, your children—that image is beinglooked at. And that image has been created through your relationship, or throughyour fears, or through your hopes. The sexual and other pleasures you have hadwith your wife, your husband, the anger, the flattery, the comfort, and all thethings that your family life brings—a deadly life it is—have created an imageabout your wife or husband. With that image you look. Similarly, your wife orhusband has an image about you. So the relationship between you and your wifeor husband, between you and the politician is really the relationship betweenthese two images. Right? That is a fact. How can two images which are the resultof thought, of pleasure and so on, have any affection or love?So the relationship between two individuals, very close together or very far, isa relationship of images, symbols, memories. And in that, how can there be reallove? Do you understand the question?"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/31687318/Krishnamurti-The-Mirror-of-Relationship-Love-Sex-and-Chastity

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NoobX
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posted July 17, 2012 06:00 PM

I guess I have some problems...

I'm kind of addicted to HC (it's nothing to joke about), just like some people are addicted to drugs or alcohol.

Umm... I love the green colour. In fact, I'm obsessed with it.

I am depressive. The school's driving me crazy and I can't relax a bit (good thing that I'm on the summer vacation now). The fact that I shouldn't care about school doesn't reach my brain.

And, sometimes, I laugh when there isn't anything to laugh about.


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