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xerox
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posted December 15, 2012 09:13 PM |
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They're just gonna be immune to Hero spells I guess.
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The_Polyglot
Promising
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posted December 15, 2012 09:15 PM |
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@JJ: So? Change it then. 10% chance to dodge a magic attack, perhaps? Immunity with a cooldown ala Out of Time?
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted December 15, 2012 09:36 PM |
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Sounds bleh really.
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The_Polyglot
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posted December 15, 2012 09:42 PM |
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*shrug* The other option sucks way more, Ubi has to put on their thinking cap anyway.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 15, 2012 10:39 PM |
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Ok, so Black Dragons, more or less, confirmed. Good. I like Black Dragons, they're my favorite kind.
Problem JJ proposed? Valid.
Black Dragons immune to magic. Yes, it is tradition. Anything else? ................... Nope, not realy. It's not realy based on anything other than tradition.
Possible solution? Do what they did with the Emeralds in Heroes V. Make them immune to the element of their parent/patron. Emeralds immune to Earth -> Blackies immune to Shadow.
Not saying it will happen, I'm no insider. But it is possible(I assume), it makes sense, doesn't break with the tradition much. Everyone happy.
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Endbringer
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Devil's Bane
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posted December 15, 2012 10:49 PM |
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I still wouldn't be so rash as to say that Black Dragons are "confirmed" as the Dungeon Champion. The link that Storm-Giant provided states only that the Dungeon campaign will involve Raelag getting support from the Black Dragons. I still think they will only be campaign characters (like the Faceless in Vanilla), lending aid in the campaign, but the Faceless will be the Dungeon Champions.
(I would have absolutely no problem being wrong about this)
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted December 15, 2012 11:01 PM |
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Black Dragons were always a killer unit with full magic immunity, and it was acceptable. Sure they were devastating, but not unbeatable. In addition, they weren't cheap, so you simply get what you paid for (remember the price in Heroes IV, it was adequate).
Then again, the whole physical/magic attacks thing was not to my liking from the beginning. It makes things overcomplicated (all this "how much my spell will actually damage an enemy cr@p to be precise). Attacks should be attacks, spells should be spells. But in the wake of what we have in Heroes VI the magical immunity could really be a problem, so as JJ says either a damage reduction or an element immunity.
PS: For me a Heroes game without dragon units is an atrocity  . AND in fact, in Heroes VI we practically don't have any buyable dragon units, so it would be nice to have at least two types (from two factions)...
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properkheldar
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Keeper of books
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posted December 16, 2012 10:13 AM |
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The champion could be a mix of some sort like faceless that sport dual forms, beeing able to turn into avatars of Malassa. The champion could also be a mix of the classic black dragon and hydras, with multiple heads and a mix of their classic abilities. Would fit well with the lore of malassa, hundred faces and all that.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 16, 2012 10:35 AM |
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Something Avonu spotted on the official site. And mentioned to CH....but not to us.
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Miru
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posted December 16, 2012 09:36 PM |
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That town is gorgeous. I want to build it in minecraft now.
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War-overlord
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posted December 16, 2012 09:43 PM |
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Quote:
That town is gorgeous. I want to build it in minecraft now.
Innit? I can't wait to see it full and unblurred.
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Miru
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posted December 16, 2012 09:59 PM |
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It would be cool if when you started the town actually had more rock, and as you built buildings they were carved into the rocks. So there would be this big lump where the dragon statue would go, and you would be waiting to chisel it out the whole game.
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War-overlord
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posted December 16, 2012 10:08 PM |
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Yeah, that would be amazing. But I think beyond the scope of the current game. But there is always hope for the future.
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Naze
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posted December 16, 2012 11:50 PM |
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At first I thought "Wow, this looks amazing! I can't wait to see it rotating in 3D!". Then I realized... Heroes 6 
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GenyaArikado
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posted December 17, 2012 04:20 AM |
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Dungeon screen was my favorite in HV. I think it's gonna be the same in VI
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The champion could be a mix of some sort like faceless that sport dual forms, beeing able to turn into avatars of Malassa. The champion could also be a mix of the classic black dragon and hydras, with multiple heads and a mix of their classic abilities. Would fit well with the lore of malassa, hundred faces and all that.
That's what I've been thinking too. And since faceless can shapshift anyway...
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Dave_Jame
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I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted December 18, 2012 06:15 PM |
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Looks like the shadow lurker is out
Shadow lurker is out
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It looks like Dungeon could focuse on reducing moral, This could actually be a fun strategy. I loved the combination of Mass despire and teror in the original game, but there were rather few ways how to reduce enemy moral, apart from these two spells...
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Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted December 18, 2012 06:27 PM |
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Those things look sick, liking Dungeon more and more now. An actually good job of mixing black and purple this time, neither of it looks overdone. Although the unit does look a bit similar to Breeders.
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Dave_Jame
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posted December 18, 2012 06:30 PM |
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Everything with tentacles looks the same :-P
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foxxxer
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posted December 18, 2012 07:52 PM |
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So I guess this is the core – Minotaur, Stalker and Lurker?
I prefer more Minotaur to be elite but perhaps it would be core.
For elite I guess will be Manticore, some Faceless/Shadow Elemental and the second dark elf this chick
For champion blacky
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 18, 2012 07:55 PM |
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As I keep telling you people. That is a Shadow Sorcerer. Those are heroes.
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