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Foux
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posted December 26, 2012 06:57 PM |
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look page 1 there is results !!! And we are not blocked to 1 type of play, dunno if he played specially might or magic but I think he changed .... Look all the page there is the round 1 match displayed I think.
PS: And I was speaking with normal level speed, difficulty normal ( 5000 gold ) no auto combat, no dinasty ( NEVER !!) on rise to power ( 6 ppl with a huge map)
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted December 26, 2012 07:03 PM |
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The results on the first page are from a previous version of the map, actually. One with more stuff in it.
Blood magic is still strong, don't get me wrong, but it isn't end all be all. Your problem here I think is that your reference point is classic duels. This is not classic duels. That's why I keep saying you should try an actual duel on it before suggesting improvements.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 26, 2012 07:21 PM |
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The whole point of this map is a clean fight with both players knowing what they face, same levels and equal chances. It does not intend to duplicate an actual map as creeping, dwellings and so many other things can change the balance dramatically.
Now, you believe this map is not balanced. Fair enough but just mentioning blood magic does not mean much, most of the people here have played them and did not find them OP. If you believe otherwise I'll happily have a game with you, might or magic, blood or tears. Win or lose I feel confident that I can give you a good game 
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 26, 2012 07:37 PM |
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I understand I dont know everything about normal games. But this is MMH6. This isnt rocket science. I can tell that the armies are too small compared to the hero power.
What kind and how much of "more stuff" did the first tournament have?
If the point is to emulate a normal game at week six, then why give an army of week six + 2 extra week of core units, instead of giving a week 1 + week 2 + week 3 + week 4 + week 5 + week 6 army and then removing some to better reflect the losses you take meanwhile?
Also, perhaps you could remove the set artifacts and replace them with common artifacts.
And also, since in a normal game, we waste some points in other stuff ( like movement and xp bonus points ) perhaps reducing the hero lvl a bit to like lvl 17 ?
It seems I only saw this thread recently and only saw the second version of this map and not the first one.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 26, 2012 07:55 PM |
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But this is MMH6. This isnt rocket science. I can tell that the armies are too small compared to the hero power.
And that is where you are wrong I will admit however that adding 2 weeks of extra cores turned out unnecessary, that was a remainder from the 9 weeks version. In the long run, fortification growth(+3) helps high level units more than the lower ones so cores were underpowered there. Apparently the extra growth was not needed at week 6.
As for the rest I believe that I explained it in my previous post. But further theorycrafting will help noone, only a test drive can show you If you want to prove your claims then let me know your uplay username and when you are available.
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 26, 2012 08:01 PM |
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*shrug*
I dont mind doing a few duels or duels on your custom map. I win often, not everytime. I know there are plenty of good players out there and didn't intend to turn this into an E peen contest, as they say.
Then again. I wont turn out game invitations lul.
Name is KaynaCrous, stuck on the european server.
I'm availlable evenings on East Coast time.
But how can I back up my claims? It is not only by taking a blood magic against any other combo, but also by making a normal game and compare the size of our armies after week 6.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 26, 2012 08:11 PM |
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Forget normal games, the armies are never going to look like that, eacg faction having a different playstyle and each map having its own balance and different amount of dwellings/towns Neither would it be as simple as building all elites on tier 2 and upgrading them all 2 weeks later. This is just for symmetry's sake.
And like I said, it's not about victory but providing a nice close game. I am not sure if I will be available tomorrow evening but I will let you know. My pc has a peculiarity, after a few hours of being turned on it causes H6 to randomly freeze so I have to turn it on near the time I have arranged a match 
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Gameslayer989
Known Hero
Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 26, 2012 08:56 PM |
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The intent was never to emulate 'normal game' armies, merely to have a balanced amount of units to hero power ratio that is also still fun. When we say it emulates week 6 armies we don't mean it emulates week 6 armies, merely that it's a good representation of the amount of units you'll be dealing with.
Forget normal games, these are still duels! They're just different from classic duels to allow picking of skill/being at level 20, have artifacts and to some extent choose the battle map.
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 26, 2012 10:31 PM |
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How do you guys manage to complete a tournament, considering the three servers, american, european and russian? Everyone here happens to be on the same server? Or is there some third party software that allows direct IP games?
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 26, 2012 10:46 PM |
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Russians mostly keep to themselves though I'm not sure what the deal with American servers is. Simpel is from Canada and he has no problem playing any of us.
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted December 26, 2012 11:19 PM |
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In fact, I would say that I see mostly eastern european chat channels, rather than english ones, which makes me think I'm maybe on the european server as well. And if I had to guess as to why, I'd say that's because I'm a french canadian. Although I play the game in english, I probably bought a version that supports french. It's possible they didn't bother to enable french on their american servers, and just send me straight to european ones. Starcraft 2 for example was very forward with it, because their servers are very clearly defined : if I wanted to buy in french, I was gonna have to play on the european servers. Their NA server didn't support french. Likely they did the same here, but without warning anyone about it.
Going back to our business, I think tomorrow I should be available for our duel Nikolas! There's (supposedly) going to be a snowstorm tomorrow, hopefully electricity stays strong, but yeah, I should be available.
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 27, 2012 12:47 AM |
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ALso I have a question. WHy are all special racial banned except the haven marksman shooting through the friendly units?
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 27, 2012 01:01 AM |
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It is not such a big deal when the marksman ability is active, it is good to have but hardly OP. And it certainly cannot compare to +25hp to kensei or 5x5 retractable spikes.
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Gameslayer989
Known Hero
Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 27, 2012 03:03 AM |
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Not all special racials are banned, jsut the ones you want to get the most 
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Nikolas
Hired Hero
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posted December 27, 2012 04:26 AM |
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Going back to our business, I think tomorrow I should be available for our duel Nikolas! There's (supposedly) going to be a snowstorm tomorrow, hopefully electricity stays strong, but yeah, I should be available.
That's good to hear but i am afraid i cannot predict my free time from today.i believe i will have a couple of hours available from 16:00 to 18:00 (gmt+2).and then again late at night after midnight.What do you think?I ll be checking regularly for your answer.
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted December 27, 2012 05:22 AM |
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I'd rather the latenight option because the other one has me up and running at 9 am. So, you know, 9 hours or so from now I'd have to get out of bed while I still am not in it yet, and won't be for a bit. Yeah, latenight sounds good.
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KaynaCrous
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 27, 2012 03:45 PM |
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If I may suggest something, I think you guys should try once a tournament where people pick their race and type ( might or magic ) and then keep that type for the whole tournament. To prevent people from picking a race and type according to what you pick.
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Gameslayer989
Known Hero
Always looking for a fight!
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posted December 27, 2012 04:23 PM |
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well the way we do it is that all the races are randommed before the game is started to prevent counter-pick play.
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Vindicator
Supreme Hero
Right Back Extraordinaire
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posted December 27, 2012 04:25 PM |
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That could be avoided if you HCM your select race at the beginning of the tourney, secretly, to someone who's neutral. He can then post all of the races once everyone has sent it in.
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted December 27, 2012 05:07 PM |
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I don't know how Elvin wants to play it, but since I won't be participating anymore, I can be neutral guy and randomize things and/or gather everyone's pick, if you want.
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