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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted May 11, 2013 01:34 PM |
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Hmm, I wonder how would a Might Academy hero look.
Blademage
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yogi
Promising
Famous Hero
of picnics
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posted May 11, 2013 01:56 PM |
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Edited by yogi at 13:57, 11 May 2013.
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Elvin, did you play Shadowbane?
http://shadowbaneemulator.com/page.php?d=5&n=Blade_Weaver
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natalka
Supreme Hero
Bad-mannered
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posted May 11, 2013 02:08 PM |
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It would be very funny like stronghold magic. I hope might academians are more viable though.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 11, 2013 02:35 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 14:41, 11 May 2013.
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Elvin, did you play Shadowbane?
http://shadowbaneemulator.com/page.php?d=5&n=Blade_Weaver
Doesn't seem to load..
Oh wait. Finally got it, took its sweet time.
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yogi
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posted May 11, 2013 02:46 PM |
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It took forever for me too, dunno.
Here's the basic text:
Blade Weaver, the Sword Dancer
Overview:
Though Elves are far mightier in the arts of Magic than they are the arts of warfare; millennia of trial and practice have produced the Blade Weavers, specialists in swordplay who may well be the finest swordsmen in the world.
Story: The first Blade Weavers learned their Art three full ages of the World ago, in the Age of Twilight, when the World was young and death was but a dream. In that age, the blades of the Elvish masters shone like white fire in the eternal twilight - this was long before the kindling of the Sun and the Dawning of Time. Those first masters wove their mighty dances, sparring with each other, and the Dance of Battle was another art, not the grim necessity it is today. The art they shaped demands a discipline unlike any we children of the wood have ever known. Focus and discipline of any kind come slowly to ones such as we, whose hearts are made of wind and water. Those who persevere, however, will join the ranks of the greatest warriors ever known, and their blades shall protect the wonders of the world and smite the corrupt like lightning.
How tiresome the ways of humans are. We have seen their "Jen'e'tai," their so-called blade masters, and we know their teachings all too well. As with everything the Sons of Men have wrought, it is but a pale shadow of the wonders our immortal fathers made of old. These "Blade Masters" whose lives play out in the span of a daydream for our kind - do they really believe they know more than the mighty Elf Lords who have been practicing with their swords since before the first Man was even wrought?
They are wise to look to the stars for wisdom, these "masters," but they forget too quickly that there were other masters of the World before them. They claim that Draethen the Trueson cut the stars in the dome of heaven with his blade, drawing the constellations that are, in the end, only a stilted mockery of our dance. An interesting fable, but patently untrue. We remember the stars that glimmered long before that, in the Endless Twilight that existed long before Time. These are our stars, and yet the meddling Humans would steal them from us, too, as if all of our arts and wonders and lands were not enough. We remember the early stars well, and how they lit our world of night and beauty. We remember how we wept to see them vanish at the dawning. The Dragon stole them from us, that terror whose rising we alone remember. The greatest Blade Weavers danced a mighty dance of death with that horrible beast, and all of them perished in flames save one: Talamar Solanthanor, the greatest sword master who will ever live. He turned from the deadly battle at Hennan Gallorach, for he knew that no victory was possible against the Dragon, and that his wisdom and mastery of his Art must not die. Though no Human will ever know his name, we will ever praise his name.
And well do we remember Draethen Truesword also. Those who call themselves the Jen'e'tai proudly recite his parentage, claiming him as the last son of the All-Father. Indeed, he was. But who then was his mother? No human tale will tell you, but we remember the truth. Long did the wounded All-Father linger at the Opal Court after he drove the Dragon away, to be nursed back to health by the fairest of our Fair Folk. Draethen was born of none other than Silesteree Allvolanar, princess of the Deathless Realm, daughter to the First Queen who ruled beneath the eternal stars. Strange that so many human artists forget that Draethen's ears were pointed. Long did Draethen Trueson stay at the Elvencourt (aye, long after his wicked father left the hospitality of the Elves) and long did he study with Talamar Solanthanor, whose blade was called Clalidhedril, the fire serpent. We've heard the tales the Blade Masters tell, their parables of pigs and tusks. Most amusing, but we remember the truth. Would you hear it?
Know then, that there once was a Human slave, one of the first of his kind given the honor of serving us, who hid in the shadows and spied upon the Yard of the Dance. He watched Draethen and Talamar sparring together, and did steal a longblade from his masters. This craven wretch, first of the Jen'e'tai, would creep into the cellars and practice when there were none to witness him. The thief was discovered, of course, and punished with the loss of his left hand. He would have died, but Draethen took pity and the wretch, gave the thing his own sword, and spirited him away, allowing the thief to escape the Queen's justice. And so we turned this "True Son" out, and have never trusted any half-breed since. This is why the so-called Blade Masters revere Draethen, and why they fight with only one blade while every true Blade Weaver uses two. This is why their so-called "Art" will never be anything but a parody of our Dance. Here is the truth behind the Human's feeble myths. Never forget it.
Once you have learned the secrets of the Dance and joined the ranks of the Blade Weavers, you will be able to show the Humans just how wrong they are.
Professions Available:
Assassin
Bard
Channeler
Crusader
Druid
Huntress
Necromancer
Prelate
Priest
Ranger
Scout
Sentinel
Thief
Warrior
Wizard
Disciplines Prohibited:
Archmage
Skill Specializations:
In addition to your Profession's Skill(s)
Level 1 : can wield weapons in both hands
Level 1 : granted skill Sword
Level 1 : granted+10 to Sword skill
Level 20 : granted skill Blade Weaving
Blade Dance -"Area of Effect Slashing Damage (0 range)"
Dance of Steel -"Weapon Power and Attack Debuff"
Dance of Waters -"Weapon Power and Attack Speed Debuff"
Dance of the Flames -"Weapon Power and Defense Debuff"
Dance of the Winds -"Weapon Power and Stun"
Ride the Whirlwind -"Weapon Power and Power Block"
Feint -"Personal Attack Buff"
Find Weakness -"Single Target Melee Resistance Debuff"
Riposte -"Personal Damage Shield"
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Should check out the site later, it usually works. Shadowbane was perhaps one of the best games ever designed.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 11, 2013 05:27 PM |
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Hmm, I wonder how would a Might Academy hero look.
Blademage
It might as well be a Magic Academy default hero or a Mage/Magi unit...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 11, 2013 05:58 PM |
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No that is confirmed a Blademage. It's featured in the Compendium.
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GunFred
Supreme Hero
Sexy Manticore
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posted May 11, 2013 08:17 PM |
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Edited by GunFred at 20:19, 11 May 2013.
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That guy does not even have a blade from what I can see. He should logically be a blood magic hero. Maybe Dark Mage (I do not mean it as if he is a mage specialized in darkness magic) would be suitable class?
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 11, 2013 09:05 PM |
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It's kinda hard to see at this size, but the bottom of the staff is a scimitar blade, albeit a small one.
And as I said:
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that is confirmed a Blademage. It's featured in the Compendium
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2013 03:57 AM |
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Well, in Compendium there is this art next ti both - description of academy warfare and a hero. And it definately does not look like a blademage to me.
Besides, you were the one who agrued with me that Sylvan elves are not Wood Elves despite what is said in compendium, no?
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 12, 2013 10:53 AM |
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Well, in Compendium there is this art next ti both - description of academy warfare and a hero. And it definately does not look like a blademage to me.
Besides, you were the one who agrued with me that Sylvan elves are not Wood Elves despite what is said in compendium, no?
No, that was you.
I was the one that said that the only time they are refered to as wood elves is the AKA part. I.E. they are Also Know As, meaning that that is just a nickname or an alternative name, not their primary name. Everywhere else, in all the text there, they are simply refered to as Elves. Meaning that Elves is their primary description.
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Hermes
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posted May 12, 2013 12:05 PM |
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Edited by Hermes at 12:09, 12 May 2013.
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I'm not following you. What you just said is a lie. You said this:
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I'm not so sure about that one. The first time I've seen that one was when I got my copy of the Ashan Compendium. I'm fairly sure that this was made for the SoD expansion and it depicts her transformation to a Dark Elf when she made a pact with the Faceless.
On another note, technically speaking, there is no such thing as a Wood-Elf in Ashan. There are Elves and Dark Elves. Once the same species, now actually physically different. (And Sea-Elves, if you want to go into it even more deeply, though they are physically no different from elves.)
And then I said this:
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f its is even Tuidhana, as I was led to believe.
The one you posted is Tuidhana during the ritual, I think. I have first seen it uploaded on m&m facebook.
On another note, people call Sylvan High Elves, Light Elves otlr whatever else, but they are in fact, Wood Elves. According to official portal.
Aka: The Wood Elves
Associated Colours:The Wood Elves Green, brown and silver
Country / Kingdom: Irollan, the forest maze
Capital City:There are four capitals, changing each season: Syris Thalla,Syris Vaniel, Syris Lothran and Syris Wynna
Edit, besides, following your logic, Necropolis heroes are also called Necromancers in the AKA section, similarly to Dungeon ones as Dark Elves.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted May 12, 2013 01:20 PM |
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I'm gonna wager that 'wood elves' is what other races call the 'wood elves' to distinguish them from the newly created 'dark elves'.
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Dave_Jame
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Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted May 12, 2013 01:27 PM |
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Dwarves???
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2013 03:13 PM |
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Noo dwarves are not even an option sorry lol. No dwarves pkease!!!
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Raelag84
Famous Hero
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posted May 12, 2013 03:21 PM |
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It was crazy not to include the academy faction in the first expansion, (as much as I like Dark elves), because a chunk of their nation was going out and fighting a war. It would be crazier still not to include the Academy faction in the second expansion. My vote is with academy.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted May 12, 2013 03:41 PM |
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Noo dwarves are not even an option sorry lol. No dwarves pkease!!!
Why not:-P
The are fun, cool and badass, like orcs but with less rage and more beer:-P
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted May 12, 2013 03:47 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 15:49, 12 May 2013.
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Yeah, I like how Ubi says about various events in their storyline, teases us with them, yet it has no reflection in the actual game (I'm talking about Heroes 6), like with the Dark Elves in SoD. They are saying about their exodus from Irollan yet we don't see even a fragment of the Sylvan faction (except from the intro cinematic that is).
It's like with the Game of Thrones TV series. I've read the books, there were so many battles which I was looking forward to see on teh screen, yet the budget limits only enabled them to film one battle from the climax of one of the books, and the rest was only teased...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted May 12, 2013 07:32 PM |
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Look Hermes, it is very simple. I never argued that that the compendium was incorrect. I argued that the correct way to refer to an Elf of Irollan is Elf, not Wood Elf.
There are two kinds of Elves. There are Elves and there are Dark Elves.
Elves are either the Elves of Irollan or Sea Elves, but they are physically the same species.
Dark Elves are physically evolving and are ever more becoming a different species altogether. (This due to the corruption influence of the Worship of Malassa)
The AKA part of the compendium/faction-overview gives you other names as to what the faction is also called by others that aren't part of that faction. That the Sylvan faction is refered by others as Wood Elves, doesn't make it the correct way to refer to the species. Just as referring to the Sanctuary faction as Snake People is incorrect way to refer to the species, even though in game people might do so. Just as referring to the Necropolis faction as Death Lords is incorrect way to refer to the species, even though in game people might do so.
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Elvin
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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 12, 2013 07:39 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 19:40, 12 May 2013.
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Yeah, I like how Ubi says about various events in their storyline, teases us with them, yet it has no reflection in the actual game (I'm talking about Heroes 6), like with the Dark Elves in SoD. They are saying about their exodus from Irollan yet we don't see even a fragment of the Sylvan faction (except from the intro cinematic that is).
I'm guessing they pressed fast forward till the wars with elves were over because they could not add both races in the game 
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